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Old 10-11-2016, 09:03 AM   #271
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This issue has been driving me nuts until I read this thread.

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Old 10-11-2016, 03:20 PM   #272
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Wouldn't this make it easier to find?


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Old 10-11-2016, 03:22 PM   #273
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I always wondered if using soapy water around the suspected leak area with the heater fan on high would cause bubbles by the leak?
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Old 10-17-2016, 07:16 PM   #274
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For the jeep owners with the front left or right floors getting soaked the problem is with water traveling down A pillars, it inters from point just in front of drip rail on hard top ends on front end closest to windshield. The water then wicks down along front inner seal then at the point where the seal mates with the cover seal covering the hinge area where you can fold windshield frame down the hard bend makes it hard for door seal to mate really good at that point so water cuts into the inner most part of seal then comes down along the door opening next to dash along door seal and just before the door seal flattens out it wicks into the front over the inner plastic trim then down to the floor.

Many think its from upper roof and hard top "which in a slight way does not do a good job deflecting water from going down between door and top of A pillar" because of drip rail design.

Doors need to be adjusted by a body shop who understands these doors and how the hinges work together being adjusted.
I did buy a new 2016 and my left front got soaked and tiny bit right front floor but I have the experience to do stuff better than factory design so I had my dealer order the muck kit and all front seals and I will be doing a custom install that also includes some 3M adhesion promotor you put on areas where the sticky parts of new seals go to enhance the adhesion of new seals.
Remember everyone please use a dealer that has on-sight body shop and ask for the body tech with the most experience who knows how to install seals better than factory.

All hard or soft tops have there days with water leaks but having someone with experience in the auto body field really does help to hard to explain here in detail.
Body techs are the largest contributors of information to manufactures on defects.

Also helps to treat your seals in all mated areas with rain X as to stop water in areas where you don't have a very tight seal.
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Old 10-25-2016, 02:39 AM   #275
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Hey everyone! So I went through the thread and I can't seem to find anything regarding water building up in the plastic door seal. (I run a soft top all year) I replaced the foam at the front of the windshield frame corners where the top meets. I was hoping that would solve my problem but the plastic door rails are still filling up with water after raining. I can't see a tear or rip anywhere in the top. Could the seams be leaking water? I checked but can't see anything.
Wondering if anyone has had this problem and a fix for it.
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Old 10-27-2016, 09:13 AM   #276
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For the jeep owners with the front left or right floors getting soaked the problem is with water traveling down A pillars, it inters from point just in front of drip rail on hard top ends on front end closest to windshield. The water then wicks down along front inner seal then at the point where the seal mates with the cover seal covering the hinge area where you can fold windshield frame down the hard bend makes it hard for door seal to mate really good at that point so water cuts into the inner most part of seal then comes down along the door opening next to dash along door seal and just before the door seal flattens out it wicks into the front over the inner plastic trim then down to the floor.

Many think its from upper roof and hard top "which in a slight way does not do a good job deflecting water from going down between door and top of A pillar" because of drip rail design.

Doors need to be adjusted by a body shop who understands these doors and how the hinges work together being adjusted.
I did buy a new 2016 and my left front got soaked and tiny bit right front floor but I have the experience to do stuff better than factory design so I had my dealer order the muck kit and all front seals and I will be doing a custom install that also includes some 3M adhesion promotor you put on areas where the sticky parts of new seals go to enhance the adhesion of new seals.
Remember everyone please use a dealer that has on-sight body shop and ask for the body tech with the most experience who knows how to install seals better than factory.

All hard or soft tops have there days with water leaks but having someone with experience in the auto body field really does help to hard to explain here in detail.
Body techs are the largest contributors of information to manufactures on defects.

Also helps to treat your seals in all mated areas with rain X as to stop water in areas where you don't have a very tight seal.


That first paragraph.......is that in English?
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Old 11-07-2016, 09:13 PM   #277
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Has anyone tried using Flex Seal ?
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mine has been to the dealer now about 5 times for the same couple of leaks. I have a 2016 2door and it lets some water in where the doors meet the panels and the hard top. Luckily it isn't a lot of water like others here, but when I hit the breaks it falls forward and lands on the armrest area... so it hits my wife, and that doesn't end well.



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mine has been to the dealer now about 5 times for the same couple of leaks. I have a 2016 2door and it lets some water in where the doors meet the panels and the hard top. Luckily it isn't a lot of water like others here, but when I hit the breaks it falls forward and lands on the armrest area... so it hits my wife, and that doesn't end well.



I had a similar leak with my 2014 Sport - Dealer could not figure it out... Turns out there is a bead of butyl rubber that runs along and under the hard-top seal (where it curves down at the end by the door) that had pulled apart. I applied some more sealer (it actually like a black rubbery/sticky rope) to the area and no more leak.

See page 14 of the leak diagnosis manual.
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I had a similar leak with my 2014 Sport - Dealer could not figure it out... Turns out there is a bead of butyl rubber that runs along and under the hard-top seal (where it curves down at the end by the door) that had pulled apart. I applied some more sealer (it actually like a black rubbery/sticky rope) to the area and no more leak.

See page 14 of the leak diagnosis manual.
Interestingly enough, monday when I took it in, I gave them a print out of the Leak manual, and highlighted the part that said it could be that long seal that you see the end of right there. So they replaced it...

Now it leaks worse than it ever has... my rear floor board had water in it after it rained all day yesterday (it always was just a slight leak until now) so it's back at the dealer today. I told them "at least we affected the leak. now we can move in the right direction." because up until now we haven't really changed the leak at all.
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Interestingly enough, monday when I took it in, I gave them a print out of the Leak manual, and highlighted the part that said it could be that long seal that you see the end of right there. So they replaced it...

Now it leaks worse than it ever has... my rear floor board had water in it after it rained all day yesterday (it always was just a slight leak until now) so it's back at the dealer today. I told them "at least we affected the leak. now we can move in the right direction." because up until now we haven't really changed the leak at all.
Check the butyl rubber underneath where the hardtop seal curves down by the door, maybe they didn't replace it
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Check the butyl rubber underneath where the hardtop seal curves down by the door, maybe they didn't replace it
I didn't have a chance to see this message before returning it to the dealer... and now they said they are going to adjust the door by loosening the hinges. Unfortunately that means they are going to have to have it re painted because stupid Chrysler paints them with the hinges installed So they are saying I might get it back before Christmas.

I'm getting pretty tired of this.
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Just to update, they didn't get it back from the body shop before Christmas, but they have told me I could pick it up today. I'm betting it will be good now since they sent it to an actual body shop to have the gaps adjusted and repainted where they adjusted it.
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I didn't have a chance to see this message before returning it to the dealer... and now they said they are going to adjust the door by loosening the hinges. Unfortunately that means they are going to have to have it re painted because stupid Chrysler paints them with the hinges installed So they are saying I might get it back before Christmas.



I'm getting pretty tired of this.


Hi I have a 2012 JKU Sahara ... same problem. Took it back to the dealer I bought it from (not a jeep dealer) after consulting with some other friends who work at various dealerships and all had said body shop.

The dealer I bought it from sent it to a body shop who replaced ALL the weather stripping on roof and doors. Plus check the front drivers side panel of freedom top it can also collect water causing it to leak inside along the roll bar.

The dealer covered it for me because it all happened within 30 days of purchase. But the job shouldn't cost more than $300 tops and that's high balling it.

I can say 3 heavy rains and a couple car washes later, not a drop of water. So a good body shop is the way to go! Jeep gave me the run around and tried to rip me off. They go by process of
Elimination starting with their "roof specialist".. gets pricey and it's not covered under warranty.

Plus now there's also less draft in my truck as well

Hope this helps! Good luck!


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