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Old 01-13-2014, 12:00 AM   #1
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Lift kits......theres so many... Which is best?

Hello everyone. I just bought a 2014 wrangler unlimited Dragon Edition. I want to start adding mods. My question is about lift kits. Which brand is the best? What makes it better then the other. For example, 4" lift from "Rough Country" cost about $499 and a 4" "Tera Flex cost like $1,200. Why such a big price difference? Then they also have the "Rugged Ridge" brand. How does that compare? I asked sales people at the stores this question but I think they are just pushing me toward the most expensive kit. So I thought I'd ask some real jeep lovers and hope for some good answers to help me make my decision. Oh and by the way I will not buy a 4" lift that was just an example. I will buy a 3" lift kit. I just want the one that will give the best ride as a daily driver. I never took it off road and mainly want it for looks but I don't want a rough ride. Thanks

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Why the difference in price you ask.... Quality. You really do get what you pay for. You go cheap and you will have issues that won't stop, one after the other. I follow the simple motto... Buy once, cry once.


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Why the difference in price you ask.... Quality. You really do get what you pay for. You go cheap and you will have issues that won't stop, one after the other. I follow the simple motto... Buy once, cry once. Good luck
By the way... You can not go wrong with Teraflex.
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I hear good reviews from the JK guys about Teraflex, but its a different story over in the TJ threads.

Metal Cloak, Currie, AEV all make great stuff.

I went with the Currie kit because of their reputation and seniority in the automotive industry. Also you get progressive springs unlike most other kits.

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Rough Country, Trailmaster, ProComp and one or two others make budget lift kits with lots of parts and little quality. Buy if you must but your suspension is critical an and off road.

The ones listed above are the best and worth their price.
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Best to read the sticky's. Lots of info on lift choice, install and advice

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Julio,

Since you're new, the first question you need to be asking (or actually, read the hundreds of threads already posted here on the topic) is what size lift you need. 4" lift is insane and unlikely anything that you'd need or use. If you go with that much lift, two things are going to come into play. One is very expensive, the other may be very expensive.

First, that much lift will require a lot of geometry components to ensure that your driveline will work and not be overly strained to the point of failure. When you lift, you shift the angle of drivelines, etc., which you have to introduce other components to accomodate your new angles.

Second, it has been said many times that adding significant lift will severely impact the handling and ride comfort of your Jeep. Are you doing the bulk of your driving on road or trail? If road, then get ready for a harsh ride. This could get expensive to you if you subsequently remove your 4" lift and opt for purchasing a 2.5" or so that best meets your needs.

Before spending any money, read, read, read. Ask questions about these if you can't find where the question has already been asked. But certainly understand ALL the pros and cons before spending a penny on any suspension components. Click on kjeeper10's sticky link in his post above. From that link, watch "The most informative lift video ever made!". It's like getting a lift 101 course.

You definitely need to define your goal before jumping in. If the goal is just to have a badass looking beast, then understand that the only time you enjoy it may be when it's parked and you're outside looking at it. If it's to have an offroad work horse, then know what kind of off-roading you intend to do and match suspension, wheels, tires, shocks, armor, bumpers, recovery etc., up front so that you don't waste money on things that you'll have to sell or trade down the road.
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Julio,

Since you're new, the first question you need to be asking (or actually, read the hundreds of threads already posted here on the topic) is what size lift you need. 4" lift is insane and unlikely anything that you'd need or use. If you go with that much lift, two things are going to come into play. One is very expensive, the other may be very expensive.

First, that much lift will require a lot of geometry components to ensure that your driveline will work and not be overly strained to the point of failure. When you lift, you shift the angle of drivelines, etc., which you have to introduce other components to accomodate your new angles.

Second, it has been said many times that adding significant lift will severely impact the handling and ride comfort of your Jeep. Are you doing the bulk of your driving on road or trail? If road, then get ready for a harsh ride. This could get expensive to you if you subsequently remove your 4" lift and opt for purchasing a 2.5" or so that best meets your needs.

Before spending any money, read, read, read. Ask questions about these if you can't find where the question has already been asked. But certainly understand ALL the pros and cons before spending a penny on any suspension components. Click on kjeeper10's sticky link in his post above. From that link, watch "The most informative lift video ever made!". It's like getting a lift 101 course.

You definitely need to define your goal before jumping in. If the goal is just to have a badass looking beast, then understand that the only time you enjoy it may be when it's parked and you're outside looking at it. If it's to have an offroad work horse, then know what kind of off-roading you intend to do and match suspension, wheels, tires, shocks, armor, bumpers, recovery etc., up front so that you don't waste money on things that you'll have to sell or trade down the road.
I don't 100% agree with you but I don't completly disagree.
If road, then get ready for a harsh ride. This is not completly true, suspensions that are well made and well engineered with plenty of adjustability can be very smooth riding on and off road.
You definitely need to define your goal before jumping in. Maybe just starting with an idea of where you will end up is a better way to go. You may change your mind a year from now, its better to leave options open for change. Nothing has to be set in stone.

To the OP, buy whichever one comes in your favorite color. Best way to go. Good luck.
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I have a 2010 JKUR and am a recent user who bought cheap. All it did was cost me money and produce a terrible road experience. I bought a 2.5" budget lift and shocks which was just springs and shocks essentially. The ride was terrible and the body roll was horrendous. Bit the bullet during Thanksgiving when Rock Krawler 3.5" kits went on sale for 20% off and also picked up a set of Bilstein 5100's. Installed it yesterday and what a night and day difference on the road. You paid $35,000 plus for the Jeep you wanted, don't skimp on one of the most important pieces of equipment that you will notice every single moment your Jeep is in motion.
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Why the difference in price you ask.... Quality. You really do get what you pay for. You go cheap and you will have issues that won't stop, one after the other. I follow the simple motto... Buy once, cry once.


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Agreed! The Teraflex kit is also a more complete kit. The real question is why are you looking at 4" lift kits? The higher the lift, the more expense you will incur.
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He clearly wrote he wasn't getting a 4" lift, he was using that as an example.
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Not meaning to start something here but I got a mopar (teraflex) lift kit and my front springs measure 13 1/2 so that's 4.5 of lift and it rides great, no complaints and no driveshaft problems
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Not meaning to start something here but I got a mopar (teraflex) lift kit and my front springs measure 13 1/2 so that's 4.5 of lift and it rides great, no complaints and no driveshaft problems
Nice !!

Just a note... TF only supply's the shocks and bumpstops in the Mopar kits.
I did not know this for the longest time
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[QUOTE=Nuke83;7404577]Julio,

Since you're new, the first question you need to be asking (or actually, read the hundreds of threads already posted here on the topic) is what size lift you need. 4" lift is insane and unlikely anything that you'd need or use. If you go with that much lift, two things are going to come into play. One is very expensive, the other may be very expensive.

Reading this makes me feel pretty bad ass. Im 21, and have been wheeling since i was 16 when I got my TJ. I live in a rural area with miles of exploration in almost every direction. I go wheel my Jeep at least once a week. For me, 4" is perfect and I use it fully all the time. because I am hardly ever limited to where I can get. The ladies love it and I smile A LOT. Just like the lady from the Kaiser commercials, doing things that make you happy is actually healthy for you!

But, if you live in the city and just want a show car, I completely understand
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Not meaning to start something here but I got a mopar (teraflex) lift kit and my front springs measure 13 1/2 so that's 4.5 of lift and it rides great, no complaints and no driveshaft problems
Antonio, is that your jeep in the pic? That's how I want mine to look as far as height. Can you send me a message with the equipment you bought? Thanks.
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Thanks for all the replies. But there still is something that I am confused about. I have read tons of threads about lifts but there still are some people who say you will need to replace your driveshaft if you get a 4 " lift and some people like Antonio for example who has a 4.5" lift and says he had no driveshaft problems. I am thinking about a 3" or 3.5" lift if that would be possible without having to change my driveshaft. Which brings me to my original question. What brand will give me the best ride? Does anyone know about Rancho? Is that a good brand? The only way I could get a Tera Flex is if I can find a good sale somewhere. LOL. If not Tera Flex what's the next best brand? There are two questions here that I am hoping someone who has done this to their jeep can answer. Thanks everyone!!
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Thanks for all the replies. But there still is something that I am confused about. I have read tons of threads about lifts but there still are some people who say you will need to replace your driveshaft if you get a 4 " lift and some people like Antonio for example who has a 4.5" lift and says he had no driveshaft problems. I am thinking about a 3" or 3.5" lift if that would be possible without having to change my driveshaft. Which brings me to my original question. What brand will give me the best ride? Does anyone know about Rancho? Is that a good brand? The only way I could get a Tera Flex is if I can find a good sale somewhere. LOL. If not Tera Flex what's the next best brand? There are two questions here that I am hoping someone who has done this to their jeep can answer. Thanks everyone!!
Way to many variables to answer which lift is "best". you an spend the money on less popular cheap lift, but complete. It just might ride nice, but won't last. Height and driveshafts alone is hard to discus. Lift says 3", but does the 3" lift you bought have you at 4" ? Do you disconnect ? See where I'm going with this ?
Do you read my sticky post (lifting your Jk) ?

Here's the excerpt on driveshafts.

"Adding lift height steepens the angles the driveshafts run at. Adding longer shocks will allow the axles to droop further. Disconnecting the swaybar links-even more. If the driveshaft doesn't contact the exhaust crossover pipe the cv will eventually fail.
Some of the Fixes-Exhaust spacers/y-pipes/limit straps or a smaller ID driveshaft. There is no magic number that says you will or will not have issues at xx height, too many variables. So just make a habit of crawling underneath and looking for split boots and spitting grease"

Anther variable I forgot to add. (Caster correction with control arms) I tried to run 5-6* caster with front lowers and it was too much for my driveshaft. Higher lifts and it's hard to get that balance between caster/good drivability and pinion/good driveshaft angle.

Two things I don't buy into anymore, unless I do some research.

1) "my jeep drives better than stock"
Does this person have a 2 door or 4 door?and what's included with the lift. How about the road conditions in his/her area. does this person drive a lot of highway etc
2)" I'm at 4" of lift with stock driveshafts"
Do you off road/disconnect ? Length of front shocks. Limit straps ? Etc

It's so hard to give a solid answer with some of these questions. The more compete the lift. The better it should ride, but this is not always the case.

Keep reading. There's enough good info on the forums to help you decide

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Thanks for all the replies. But there still is something that I am confused about. I have read tons of threads about lifts but there still are some people who say you will need to replace your driveshaft if you get a 4 " lift and some people like Antonio for example who has a 4.5" lift and says he had no driveshaft problems. I am thinking about a 3" or 3.5" lift if that would be possible without having to change my driveshaft. Which brings me to my original question. What brand will give me the best ride? Does anyone know about Rancho? Is that a good brand? The only way I could get a Tera Flex is if I can find a good sale somewhere. LOL. If not Tera Flex what's the next best brand? There are two questions here that I am hoping someone who has done this to their jeep can answer. Thanks everyone!!
Rough Country gets a bad rap here most of the time. I can tell you this. I have the 3.5" lift on my JK. I have no complaints. Many JK's around where I live have Rough Country lifts. No complaints.
Check Rough Country's website and you will also see that on the 3.5" kit they offer a money back guarantee. So if you don't like it after 60 days, take it off and send it back. Yeah..I know you're out the install time but in my opinion the kit is value priced and not junk.

As to the driveshaft, any lift that high you will eventually have to replace your driveshaft. I know guys that are wheeling with 3.5" after a year and still on the stock shaft. I still have my stock shaft, wheel it fairly regular and am still okay. It is next on the list of replacements, but it isn't needed immediately.
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Save your money up and get a METALCLOAK lift! Best system on the market in my opinion. You will never have to keep throwing money at your suspension, the kits come with everything you will ever need. Just check out their website and their kits will speak for themselves!
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Save your money up and get a METALCLOAK lift! Best system on the market in my opinion. You will never have to keep throwing money at your suspension, the kits come with everything you will ever need. Just check out their website and their kits will speak for themselves!
Jury is still out about that. Is it nice...yes. Does it work... Yes. Does it last...not sure.


Still too new.


And for the drive shafts. Anything over 3 inches you will need exhaust spacers or a new drive shaft.
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As I've been doing my own research, I've learned A LOT about suspension and the role a lift plays into it. I would suggest to the OP (as a lot have), read. Read a lot and watch the videos at Teraflex's website. The 2.5" install video was really helpful for me as it gave a better idea of what the parts are and where they go. Things started clicking in my head after a few days of reading and watching.

I've seen a number threads that out there that describe the parts of a lift. The most comprehensive being here. What I haven't seen is a consolidated listing of what manufacturers are more reputable than others and the application of their lifts based on that quality (true off-roading, ORP city driver, etc).
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Lots of good info posted above. The best lift for you is at the intersection of "Does what I need it to" and "I can afford it". Best advise I could give is for you to read all you can and see if there are others in you area that have a lifted jeep you can check out. Ultimately, you just need a lift that works for you.
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Don't go with the hype and end up buying something expensive that other kits can do. For instance, spring spacers and shock extensions. Just get the real thing like bigger springs and performance shocks. Also look at different brand name lifts and if they are worth the money or not. I've seen hyped up expensive lifts that lift the jeep, but fails to fix the jeep's front sag and others leave the jeep looking like it's taking a dump. Lol I personally went with Rough Country's 2.5" spring and 2.2 performance shocks lift kit. My jeep doesn't sag, it's not taking a dump, they are not too plush nor stiff, better than stock (which is what you get with spacers and shock extensions) just right. Besides, they have lifetime warranty replacement. Can't go wrong with that.
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I'd went with INNOVATORS, instead of imitators. And yes, you CAN/will go wrong with Teraflex.
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Not meaning to start something here but I got a mopar (teraflex) lift kit and my front springs measure 13 1/2 so that's 4.5 of lift and it rides great, no complaints and no driveshaft problems
Be patient- you will
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not many responses for the Rubicon Express lifts..I had great experience with the 4 1/2 extreme in my old yj,( its still in service the lift is over 10 years old, by brother has the jeep) am now looking at the 3.5" standard for my 2010Jk ...thoughts ..pro's con's?
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not many responses for the Rubicon Express lifts..I had great experience with the 4 1/2 extreme in my old yj,( its still in service the lift is over 10 years old, by brother has the jeep) am now looking at the 3.5" standard for my 2010Jk ...thoughts ..pro's con's?
RE has been around for a while. I just don't think they grabbed the Jk market. What
Is included in the standard kit ? At 3.5' a more complete lift is recommended.
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Lol that really got me worrying, like doesn't it just tear up a boot or will you really know if your on the highway
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Lol that really got me worrying, like doesn't it just tear up a boot or will you really know if your on the highway

Just keep a eye on the boots.
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Which boot are you talking about

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