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Old 02-11-2014, 10:18 PM   #1
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Mild Lift for new X

My wife and I have ordered a new Rubicon X and I got my first e-mail from Jeep yesterday. I guess we have about 8 weeks to get it. We will use the jeep as a daily driver, but we will use it off road too. I like the BFG's that will come on it, but I don't really think we need mud terrains. We would like a very slight lift, but nothing that will really effect the everyday driving of the jeep. So with that history, here is what I am wondering.

First does the X actually sit higher than a Rubicon? I would like to go with like a Terra Flex leveling kit and put BFG All Terrains on with aftermarket wheels. I will use the stock wheels for studded snow tires. I am thinking that when the jeep arrives will be my best chance to get anything out of the stock tires. Am I still going to be able to use the stock shocks?

Also are the leveling kit springs better than the springs that come on the Rubicon X ?

I really like the way these jeeps look, we just want it to stand out from the crowd a little. I had a lifted Durmax (6 inch) and it road great. But it effected the mileage a lot and I'd like to avoid tires that big on our jeep. True 33 inch all terrains are what I am thinking of getting. Any help would be appreciated.

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The Rubi X has many of the items that came on the Rubi 10A last year but I don't think the taller coils are one of them. There is a thread on this subject but I'm not sure it was conclusive because there are several coil part numbers for 10As. In any case the difference is not enough to clear larger tires.

Your choices of the TF kit and the BFG ATs are good choices if you want to maintain the stock ride and reliability. The spacer and leveling kits come with shock extensions when needed. If you go with a 33x12.5 tire on the stock wheels you will need a set of good quality spacers. The Spidertrax are one of the most popular ones. They will effectively push the wheel outwards so the wider doesn't interfere with the steering and suspension.

Keep in mind the Rubi stock tires are ~32" and are Mud Terrains (MT) so their tread pattern is more aggressive than the All Terrains (AT). Try them and if you they are not too aggressive you can go with a 33" MT instead. There are plenty of good ones available.

I suggest you take this time to get acquainted with the information in the JK Technical Sticky so you can choose your mods wisely.

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Thanks, that all sounds good. I have a lot to think about with this stuff.
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I went with a 2" AEV kit on my 14 jkur and 34" AT2's and happy as can be with it. I know I am the odd man but I like the stock rims.


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I went with a 2" AEV kit on my 14 jkur and 34" AT2's and happy as can be with it. I know I am the odd man but I like the stock rims.
I want to go a very similar route jadmt. How is the road noise with those tires?
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I want to go a very similar route jadmt. How is the road noise with those tires?
quiet and smoother than stock. Everybody says they will be harsh because they are e rated. I am on my 3rd set and they are not harsh. Sure if you pump them up to 40psi they would be but running proper psi they are great.
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quiet and smoother than stock. Everybody says they will be harsh because they are e rated. I am on my 3rd set and they are not harsh. Sure if you pump them up to 40psi they would be but running proper psi they are great.
3rd set? How many miles are you getting out of each set?
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3rd set? How many miles are you getting out of each set?
first set had about 15000 miles or so when I traded the jeep in on a new one and they looked like new. The second set had 2000 miles on when I decided they were too small / (285/75-17) and traded for for 285/75-17's. My tire dealer had no problem taking them back on trade as he said they were essentially new and he could sell them easy even tho they were used.
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jadmt, I really like the look. That is what I want. Is it a leveling kit or a 2" lift. I really like the way it looks with the stock rims. Did you have it installed in MT? I am from Lewistown.
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jadmt, I really like the look. That is what I want. Is it a leveling kit or a 2" lift. I really like the way it looks with the stock rims. Did you have it installed in MT? I am from Lewistown.
it is a 2" aev lift kit but it does level it. I installed it myself. Pretty easy to install.
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That is pretty cool. I thought I read that you have wheel spacers? How do they work? If I used this same AEV setup and wheel spacers with the stock Rubicon BFG's would that work alright? That's kind of what I am thinking off doing.
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That is pretty cool. I thought I read that you have wheel spacers? How do they work? If I used this same AEV setup and wheel spacers with the stock Rubicon BFG's would that work alright? That's kind of what I am thinking off doing.
I have spidertrax spacers and they are high quality and seamless. Yes you can use stock rubber until you want to go bigger.
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It seems like putting those spacers on will widen the vehicles stance by 3". Does that have any impacts on driving, good or bad?
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They are seamless as far as ride and handling go. In a blind test you would not feel one iota of difference. I got tires first and then put spacers on because I rubbed the sway bar and the rear control arm on the driver side was very close. I have read that people say they handle better with them but I would bet that if a person did not know if they had them on or off and took a drive they would not know which was which.
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Thanks for all the information. I talked to the folks at AEV and I think I have a plan. I am leaning towards the 2.5 inch AEV Lift and AEV wheels. Then I will keep the stock tires until they are worn out. It seems like they aren't worth much, so I figure I might as well get some use out of them. Then I will use the stock rims/spacers for the studded snow tires. I have a little time to consider, but that is what I am thinking now.
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That is a great choice. The AEV kits provide outstanding handling and ride. They provide good articulation but there others like RK that provide more. So unless you spend a significant amount of time driving over obstacles or having fun by parking in awkward positions on the hills of snow in the parking lot like a few members in another thread, max articulation is not critical.
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Cool, yeah actually the Rubicon Stock will probably do anything I would ever want or need, but this is our dream vehicle and I just want it to stand out a little. Pretty excited about it getting here.
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That is a great choice. The AEV kits provide outstanding handling and ride. They provide good articulation but there others like RK that provide more. So unless you spend a significant amount of time driving over obstacles or having fun by parking in awkward positions on the hills of snow in the parking lot like a few members in another thread, max articulation is not critical.

Haha! ..it's safe to say most Jeeper's have to travel a significant distance to get to the trails. If you roll with an AEV lift I don't think you will be unhappy...ehhhem....sipping my AEV tea lol!

Go with the AEV wheels...no fan of spacers here...just another component that you must keep torqued tightened etc. Wheel/tire installer shops like Discount Tire won't touch your Jeep if you have wheel spacers.

If a national tire retailer won't service a vehicle with spacers that tells says all I need to know about wheel spacers...too many balancing issues and most likely liability concerns if the spacers become loose.

So spend some of that rusty money once and buy the proper offset wheel and enjoy. Good luck...FWIW...
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Cool, I don't have to go far to use the jeep, right out the back door. What is the deal with the AEV Procal Module? I am thinking of getting the AEV wheels but keeping the KM2's. Doesn't seem like they are worth much so I might as well wear them out. That being the case do I need the module? And if I go with a tire in the future that is 1/2 inch to 1 inch taller would I really need it? Also will the module effect the warranty?
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Talked to the dealer where I am getting my Jeep today. They suggested the type of lift you have jadmt (basically). What type of shocks did you use?
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I would run your new rubicon shocks for a while. The aev 2" kit is designed to run stock shocks. Nothing wrong with running them for a while until they get tired.
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I realized that after my last post. I should send you a message, but others might find this amusing. I've kind of come full circle on what I want to do with our new jeep. There is so much information available, it is overwhelming. It's good, but hard to digest sometimes. The setup you have is exactly what I need to start out with. For the price and what you get, I think that will be best for us. There is no point in getting a bunch of new stuff on a brand new vehicle.

I also read a post on here early on that stayed with me. Stock is good. I think for the price the set up you have will work and I won't be dumping a bunch of brand new stuff, tires, wheels, shocks, springs etc... We may do all of that in time, but for now that small lift and a winch and hoop for the front bumper should be great for us.

I love seeing what everyone is doing with their new Jeeps, I just think we aren't ready to go that route right out of the box. I also want to get some stuff for the interior and that ads up too. But keep up with the pictures everyone. I can't get enough of seeing all those cool Jeeps.
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It all comes down to what the intended purpose is for.
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I realized that after my last post. I should send you a message, but others might find this amusing. I've kind of come full circle on what I want to do with our new jeep. There is so much information available, it is overwhelming. It's good, but hard to digest sometimes. The setup you have is exactly what I need to start out with. For the price and what you get, I think that will be best for us. There is no point in getting a bunch of new stuff on a brand new vehicle. I also read a post on here early on that stayed with me. Stock is good. I think for the price the set up you have will work and I won't be dumping a bunch of brand new stuff, tires, wheels, shocks, springs etc... We may do all of that in time, but for now that small lift and a winch and hoop for the front bumper should be great for us. I love seeing what everyone is doing with their new Jeeps, I just think we aren't ready to go that route right out of the box. I also want to get some stuff for the interior and that ads up too. But keep up with the pictures everyone. I can't get enough of seeing all those cool Jeeps.
How about this https://www.google.com/search?q=ranc...iw=320&bih=372

Expect even less with the rebate around the corner.
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Cool, I don't have to go far to use the jeep, right out the back door. What is the deal with the AEV Procal Module? I am thinking of getting the AEV wheels but keeping the KM2's. Doesn't seem like they are worth much so I might as well wear them out. That being the case do I need the module? And if I go with a tire in the future that is 1/2 inch to 1 inch taller would I really need it? Also will the module effect the warranty?
And just to chime in here for a second regarding wheels and tires...

I sold my stock Rubicon wheels and tires, along with a set of Spidertrax 1.5" spacers for $1,200. The tires had about 1K miles on them when I upgraded to my current set up. I've seen just the wheels and tires go for $1K.

So, to say the stock Rubicon stuff has doesn't have any value may be a bit of an understatement. How far would $1K go towards your new set up? (I've no idea how much AEV wheels cost.)
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Both good comments and I do like the Rancho kit. I was going to get those shocks for my LTZ Chevy, but haven't yet. I like all the mods and it is really cool to see what people are doing with their jeeps.
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So I'm just trying to figure which way to go that is the best for us. That is my goal here. None of my comments are intended to judge what others are doing. I think it is awesome. If I had the cash I'd definitely do a lot more mods.

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