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Old 05-12-2013, 11:44 AM   #61
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Looks great. I have heard rumblings about this spacer getting loose, etc. Still scratching my head as to why anybody would design a Wrangler that couldn't be lifted more than a couple of inches without needing exhaust work or these spacers.
I'b be surprised if the spacer came loose- it's in there pretty good. But it gets better- my Off Road Evo tranny skid is too close to the exhaust because of the spacer- it rattles. So I had to space out my skid with washers because of the exhaust spacer.
However considering I was high centered on a boulder recently with all 4 wheels hanging- resting on the skid- ......I am over it.

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Old 05-12-2013, 12:36 PM   #62
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Better than stock. Really happy with the ratio.
Good to hear cause I got stuck with the 3.73 in the auto and couldn't get the 4.10
But it works out as I'll be doing 35's and wouldn't want the 4.10 if it's ok.
4.56 seems to be in the sweet zone but with a tad more omph

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Old 05-12-2013, 01:43 PM   #63
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Good to hear cause I got stuck with the 3.73 in the auto and couldn't get the 4.10
But it works out as I'll be doing 35's and wouldn't want the 4.10 if it's ok.
4.56 seems to be in the sweet zone but with a tad more omph
Yeppers. Just be aware your highway RPMs may be a TAD high if you're worried about MPG. Nothing crazy- we're not in Honda territory. I think 2700 at 75 mph. If you can keep it to 65 you're still in the green. Plus I am on 305/70s- 35s may drop it down a little. I don't worry about MPG so I just (totally) enjoy the ride.
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Yeppers. Just be aware your highway RPMs may be a TAD high if you're worried about MPG. Nothing crazy- we're not in Honda territory. I think 2700 at 75 mph. If you can keep it to 65 you're still in the green. Plus I am on 305/70s- 35s may drop it down a little. I don't worry about MPG so I just (totally) enjoy the ride.
Well this is my daily driver, so highway MPG is important.
I do have a lifted 12 Ram and that is no longer efficient and is re geared.

So maybe 4.10's will be better for me
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Old 05-13-2013, 10:04 AM   #65
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Sweet.
How she rum now with the 4.10s and 35" Km2?
With the manual transmission, 4.10s, and stock 32" KM tires, I fell the ratio too low for most folks that want to use as a daily driver. Really great for rock crawling with the Rubi's 4to1 low range though. It seems like 35's and 4.10s were made for each other with the manual transmission. I have yet to use 1st gear 4lo off road with the 35s. I run down the highway in 6th gear always unless there is a significant hill, but I've not had to drop to 4th except on I70 going through the tunnel and Vail pass in Colorado.
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With the manual transmission, 4.10s, and stock 32" KM tires, I fell the ratio too low for most folks that want to use as a daily driver. Really great for rock crawling with the Rubi's 4to1 low range though. It seems like 35's and 4.10s were made for each other with the manual transmission. I have yet to use 1st gear 4lo off road with the 35s. I run down the highway in 6th gear always unless there is a significant hill, but I've not had to drop to 4th except on I70 going through the tunnel and Vail pass in Colorado.
OK!
Thanks for the update!
I got Auto....does that change much?
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Can you measure how far the bottom of your bumpers are off the ground?
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Old 05-28-2013, 07:40 AM   #69
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Any updates on this kit?

I'm on the fence between this and the AEV 3.5 RS. I will daily drive this JKU and need the best road behavior while still being up for a weekend offload. Not gonna crawl too much, if ever.

Does anyone have experience with both kits?
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Old 05-28-2013, 08:18 AM   #70
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My stage 3 experience so far...

35" KM2s don't rub at all stuffed, and the tires at full turn lock didn't either. When I bolted the 37s on, I had to do some pretty major rock rail and rear pinch seam cutting, as well as hacking away at my new Bushwacker flat flairs. Since the stage 3 lift doesn't come with an adjustable front track bar, that was my first purchase for the stage 3. The 37's rubbed but only when turning right. That problem cleared right up when I got the front axle centered.

So my experience with the Mopar state 3 is that it's a great lift for 35's if you can justify the cost of the speed bumps. Here in the desert, they flat out work great! With flat fenders, an adjustable front track bar, and some Sawzall love, you can fit 37s without extended bump stops, and the lift works great off road as you can see from some other folks pix in this thread.

Poser on 37s...

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Can you measure how far the bottom of your bumpers are off the ground?
With the 37s, my front bumper (Metalcloak) sits exactly 24" off the ground, and the rear (JCS Offroad) 24 3/4".
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Off Pavement, what a beauty
Got any side shots of your ride?

I was considering those wheels in that color as well vs the black.
let me know what you can post up
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Off Pavement, what a beauty
Got any side shots of your ride?
Thanks! Here ya go...

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[QUOTE=Off Pavement;3800899]Thanks! Here ya go...

Looks awesome. I am waiting on mine. Billet was my second choice, but a close second. Went with my standard white. If a billet had still been on the lot, it would likely be in my driveway. I succeeded in waiting for the price increase.

I test drove a couple of Jeeps with the Mopar 3" on 35's. rode pretty good on the road.
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Old 06-10-2013, 11:12 PM   #75
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This is the lift I would get. I don't think the price is that bad when you add the fox shocks and the speed bumps. Plus I get employee pricing on the lift so its even cheaper.
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This is the lift I would get. I don't think the price is that bad when you add the fox shocks and the speed bumps. Plus I get employee pricing on the lift so its even cheaper.
Been trying to figure out what employee pricing on this would be - any insight?
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Old 06-11-2013, 01:22 AM   #77
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A reminder to consider new drive shafts (eventually) when looking at any 3+ lift on a 2 door. This is the front shaft boot resting on the exhaust. I have longer limit straps (via an adjustable extension)- this is full articulation/dropped as much as I can go. It certainly isn't this close under normal driving conditions- but new drive shafts are next on the list. After the rear brake line gets extended (more). Probably because I have longer limit straps there too.
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Going to order this lift today. What size tire will the spare tire carrier hold?
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Going to order this lift today. What size tire will the spare tire carrier hold?
That's a good question with no perfect answer. About a 35"- but you'll need Daystar bumpstops (which tore on install for me) or DIY bumpstops to space it out.
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/diy...ps-227013.html
However there are those who have had failure with the stock carrier and/or tailgate hinge w/a 35" tire (too heavy) so it's a matter of opinion. I have the Teraflex hinge replacement with the stock carrier and a 35" MTR. It clears my stock bumper- but by a tiny margin.
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That's a good question with no perfect answer. About a 35"- but you'll need Daystar bumpstops (which tore on install for me) or DIY bumpstops to space it out.
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/diy...ps-227013.html
However there are those who have had failure with the stock carrier and/or tailgate hinge w/a 35" tire (too heavy) so it's a matter of opinion. I have the Teraflex hinge replacement with the stock carrier and a 35" MTR. It clears my stock bumper- but by a tiny margin.
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Looks like you still have the factory brake lines. Might want to check your brake lines during flex and droop. I had problems with my factory length brake lines rubbing on the rear shocks and the front lines were to short on full droop.. Just my 2 cents..
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Sorry to keep bugging everyone with this thread but a couple more questions. Lift is going in on Tuesday.

Can I still use the stock wheels and tires without rubbing issues? I still haven't figured out which wheel and tire setup I want to go with.

Do any of you guys with this lift use your Jeeps as daily drivers?

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This looks like a great 3" kit.

After watching the install video:



I am worried that my Jeep dealer is not qualified to install. Can anybody recommend a Jeep dealer in AZ or CO that can install this kit correctly?

Also, is there a TeraFlex version of the kit? link?
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Since this is a MOPAR lift do you know if the factory warranty is not impacted?
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Since this is a MOPAR lift do you know if the factory warranty is not impacted?
I have the smaller Mopar lift, but the warranty is the same for both. LKI enterprises will service your claim.

If part of the lift is bad or fails "Your warrantor is LKI Enterprises, Inc. (LKI). The entire product warranty process is handled by LKI, not by Chrysler LLC, any Jeep® or Dodge® vehicle dealership, or any Mopar® distributor or retailer."

Link is here: Installation, Safety and Warranty | Mopar

If a part in the lift is bad, like a shock or something, you'll have to jump through hoops, I'd wager. Remove shock, send it back, they check it, they say it's bad, they mail you a new one. On a lift like mine with the valved billstiens, I'd just buy another. On a lift like the Stage 3 with the expensive shocks, I'd wait on LKI.

I suppose you are asking if a dealer or Jeep could deny service under the Jeep warranty because it was lifted using a "Mopar" lift.

I'd venture a guess the answer to that is situational. They would have to demonstrate that the part (or other parts you installed) caused the failure and voided the Jeep's warranty. That's going to be hard for them to pull off. More likely, if they find mud all up in your Jeep and trail rashes all over it, and they wanted to deny service, they would go that route

Some mods would probably draw more fire than a lift, like regearing

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What is not covered?
The addition of performance parts does not by itself void a vehicle’s warranty. However, added performance parts (parts not originally supplied on the vehicle from the factory) are not covered by the vehicle’s warranty, and any failure that they may cause is also not covered by the vehicle’s warranty. Additionally, your LKI Limited Warranty does not cover products, parts or vehicles LKI determines to have been damaged by or subjected to:
• Alteration, modification or failure to maintain. • Normal wear and tear (bushings, tie-rod ends, etc.). Scratches or defects in product finishes (powder coating, plating, etc.),
• Damage to or resulting from vehicle’s electronic stability system, related components or other vehicle systems.
• Racing or other vehicle competitions or contests. Accidents, impact by rocks, trees, obstacles or other aspects of the environment.
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This looks like a great 3" kit.

After watching the install video:



I am worried that my Jeep dealer is not qualified to install. Can anybody recommend a Jeep dealer in AZ or CO that can install this kit correctly?

Also, is there a TeraFlex version of the kit? link?
I had mine installed at Earnhardt Jeep in Chandler, Arizona. I have pics of mine in this thread.
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I had mine installed at Earnhardt Jeep in Chandler, Arizona. I have pics of mine in this thread.
Looks really great. What did Earnhardt charge for the kit and for the install? Do you feel they did a good job on the install?

Also what wheels/tires are shown in those pics?

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Anybody know if the the Fox shocks are rebuildable?
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Anybody know if the the Fox shocks are rebuildable?
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So I assume you need to also add the exhaust spacers to this kit? I'm supervised the dealer didn't mention this upon purchase. Great video, thanks

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