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Old 11-24-2013, 03:10 AM   #1
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Need some tweaking on what I wanna do...

So I've been up for hours looking at wheels, lift kits, tires etc over the last few weeks and I think I have an idea of what I wanna do to my jeep but I was hoping for some input/advice.

Right now everything is stock. It's a 2010 JK Sport. I really wanna off road with it. I took it off road a little bit a couple weeks ago and I'm really psyched to try it again.

I'm lookin at 15x10 alloy wheels with 33/12.50 mud tires and a lift of some sort... I'll probably never do super hard core off road stuff like Rock climbing but trails and mud and stuff would be fun. I'm am super confused on lifts to get for this set up. I don't understand what makes one 4in lift over 2000 dollars and another only 600. I'm not a car person really and I've been looking at lifts but honestly, they all seem the same. What do I look for in a lift kit? like how do you know if one is only good for driving on the road as opposed to off road?

I'm thinking a 3 in lift but like I find Jeep lifts on craigs list and some are 4 and 600 and some are 3 and 1000 and.... It looks like a bunch of springs, bolts, shocks etc. A more expensive one has more bolts and springs...

I want a solid jeep that will last, solid offroad but nothing hardcore. Maybe someday I'll get 35's but right now, 33 is all I want but to have the clearance to put 35s someday would be nice. I want it to be a solid off-road/on road vehicle good in mud and trails but it'll probably be used on road more. How do I figure out what lift I should get? Like how do you know a good one from a bad one?

Also what backspacing should the wheels be for 15x10 with that size tires so it won't rub? I could probably figure it out but since I'm asking other questions and I've already researched that out once for a different wheel size and changed my mind and so I'm feeling lazy at the moment...

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Old 11-24-2013, 03:26 AM   #2
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Honestly I would skip the 15x10's an go with a 15x8. This way you will be able to air down more when offroad. An I would skip out on the 3" lift unless your goin straight to 35's. Your 33's will look like roller skates an pretty damn small. The max I would go with is a 2.5" lift kit for the same purpose as the tires. You can run 33's stock but if your gonna offroad you'll rub your fenders. So either get a leveling kit or 2.5" lift an you'll be fine. As for tire size I would go with a 33x12.50x15, it'll be good for all around use. An the somewhat rule of backspacing on the rims will be they need to have 4.5" backspace or less to fit without rubbing an causing issues.

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Old 11-24-2013, 07:21 AM   #3
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Why some kits are less expensive. #1 lack components to work at the height. Anybody can throw on a set of 4" springs and shocks and call it a day. The jeep will handle terrible on road and perform poorly off road. #2 lack quality. #3 poor support/help if needed.
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Old 11-25-2013, 03:27 PM   #4
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1/2 will make all the difference between roller skate jeep and not?

Anyway... well I def understand why it's better not to get a 4" in lift for 600 dollars... I mean I don't understand EVERYTHING being said but, it makes sense with all the lifting, how things are gonna get moved around any ya need extra stuff to fix these.

I have the money for an all out lift so I'm guessing it would be better to just go with that than a budget boost... which seems like more of a placement till you can afford something better. I'm guessing if I get the max trail Rock Krawler 2.5 lift (what I've been looking at the last few days), I could still have drive shaft issues and stuff because my jeep is bare bones and that lift could boost me up high enough to cause problems.

I have a question... the Rock Krawler kit comes with no shocks.... do I get shocks for a 2.5 in lift or a 3 in because of the extra lift since mine is gonna be light?
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Old 11-25-2013, 03:41 PM   #5
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The RK 2.5 is closer to 3.5 on a 2 door. The max travel is a nice kit but you may need upper CA's and eventually driveshafts. If you have the $$ or save up for the x-factor with all 8 arms. This way you can fine tune the suspension and maybe the driveshafts will last a bit longer. Shocks are usually listed for a range in height, but what you really want to look at is the specs. Do you want to maximize flex off road ? Most venders will know what shock to pair you up with. For a 3.5" lift the shock can be in the 11" travel range. Bumpstops are not included either. That will depend on shock Length and tire size.
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Old 11-25-2013, 03:48 PM   #6
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#1, dont buy suspension on CL, this stuff can take a beating

#2 if you dont really need the baddest system out there and it is obvious you are budget minded, JK 2.5 Stock Mod System

something like that on some 33's would do nicely. then when you decide you want some slightly larger tires you have a little room to move up.
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Old 11-25-2013, 04:45 PM   #8
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Old 11-26-2013, 03:11 PM   #9
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Lol... no one likes 10s? I've read enough forum posts to understand why people opt for 8s over 10s but personally, I think 10's look better. And my buddy airs his down to like 8 on his truck and never popped a bead and his truck is probably heavier than my jeep. As much as I off road, I think I'll be ok with the 10s xD And there have been jeepers who like their 10s (albeit most prefer 8's but I doubt many have actually tried both firsthand and just go by hearsay) so I think I'm gonna stick with 10s.

Thanks for all the advice though. I already had my eye on Fox or Bilstien shocks so I think I'll go with the bilstien =)
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Old 12-09-2013, 03:05 PM   #10
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Hey I didn't wanna create a brand new thread for this, but I have a buddy has connections and can get Lift kits wholesale... but Rock Krawler isn't one of them.

He's been searchin around and he can get a 4 inch Pro Comp Stage II JK lift kit for 800 bucks (which is almost half off retail price). The thing is, after reading up on it, I don't think I want a pro comp lift at all. Plus 4 inch is not really what I wanna do. I'd have to go 35s with that and that would just add so many more things I gotta do. I'd do it if I knew the lift was solid but Pro comp sounds like crap from what I've read.

Besides RockKrawler, what are some other decent lift brands so I can just give him a list of lifts I'm interested in and he can just get with his guys about just those lifts?
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Old 12-09-2013, 03:28 PM   #11
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Agreed on the 15x10s. Get 15x8s from discount tire with 33" duratracs and you'll be happy. Then get a small lift (like a performance leveling kit) and you won't have and driveline issues, you'll have clearance for the tires, and you won't mess with the factory suspension geometry.
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Hey I didn't wanna create a brand new thread for this, but I have a buddy has connections and can get Lift kits wholesale... but Rock Krawler isn't one of them.

He's been searchin around and he can get a 4 inch Pro Comp Stage II JK lift kit for 800 bucks (which is almost half off retail price). The thing is, after reading up on it, I don't think I want a pro comp lift at all. Plus 4 inch is not really what I wanna do. I'd have to go 35s with that and that would just add so many more things I gotta do. I'd do it if I knew the lift was solid but Pro comp sounds like crap from what I've read.

Besides RockKrawler, what are some other decent lift brands so I can just give him a list of lifts I'm interested in and he can just get with his guys about just those lifts?
You definitely don't want a procomp lift. As for some quality lifts, RK, EVO, AEV, Metalcloak, Rancho are all quality units. Keep in mind, don't look at the pricetag...they all need a few extra parts to be a 100% lift.
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Old 12-09-2013, 04:31 PM   #13
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Why not go with the TF 2.5 w/ the extensions. Go with a set of Rancho 9000 shocks. Order a front track bar and Northridge bolt kit. You're looking at less then $1000.
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Understand this, on a 2dr with no heavy bumpers or winch the RK lift will give you about 4" of lift. The RK is designed for heavily built rigs.

Look at a Rancho/AEV/Terraflex if all you want is 33-34s.
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Old 12-15-2013, 09:11 PM   #15
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How do I know if the 15 in rims will fit!? My and my buddy were looking at my wheels and he doesn't think they'll fit on the front without grinding... I decided to go with 35s on 15x10 and plan to re-gear. I really want the 15 rims though... I see Jeeps with those wheels all the time... are they all grinding to get them to fit or can you actually fit 15s on with no grinding? I know I read steel wheels will not fit but will any alloy 15 in wheel fit or no? How can I know for sure looking online?
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How do I know if the 15 in rims will fit!? My and my buddy were looking at my wheels and he doesn't think they'll fit on the front without grinding... I decided to go with 35s on 15x10 and plan to re-gear. I really want the 15 rims though... I see Jeeps with those wheels all the time... are they all grinding to get them to fit or can you actually fit 15s on with no grinding? I know I read steel wheels will not fit but will any alloy 15 in wheel fit or no? How can I know for sure looking online?
Most aluminum wheels will fit. With steel wheels you might have to grind the caliper.
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Thanks! I forgot, one more thing, thanks for the help so far by the way... About re-gearing. Even though this is gonna have 35s, this is still gonna be my DD till I buy my fast car. My buddy was saying like 4.88 is to low for 35s and even 4.56 but he's never had a jeep, only trucks. He hated the low gears. I don't want to be dragging ass but I'd like some power to pull a small trailer and then some good wheeling of course.

Also is there much of a difference between 37s and 35s? Like if I have everything set up for 35s, if I decide to put on 37s, is there gonna be much of a difference? Or is that gonna cause more problems and make the jeep less of an everyday car and more of just an offroad toy? I'm only lookin at 37s cause with the lift I'm getting (and yes I have the money to do all the stuff right that needs to be done to lift it that high), I have the clearance for it but if it will make it perform much less desirable than with 35s, I'll stick with 35s. It'll look bad ass either way but I want it to be a practical on road/offroad vehicle as well and not really one or the other.
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Ha. 33s to 35s to 37s in one thread! With the 3.6 I have 35s and 4.10s currently. I wouldnt go bellow 4.88s if I go to 37s.

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