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Old 02-08-2014, 10:29 PM   #1
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Newbi questions!

Hey everyone .. First off wanna say this is my first jeep eve I purchased it literally two weeks ago and it is a 2009 wrangler unlimited with a pro comp lift(not sure of size) riding on 35's. I plan to do some wheeling and not extreme but like to be able do things a little challenging too but also it is gonna be my daily driver. I will replace the lift kit later on if it doesn't meet my expectations but for now I had some questions and keep in mind it's gonna be on a budget..

Should I replace the frot and rear end over time or shouldI just strengthen wha I have? If I can strengthen it (axles etc) enough what should I be looking to buy and wha are sme good sites?

Also since it's lifted and on 35's should I change the gears? As far as I know they are stock.

Should I buy a new sway bar or just buy quick disconnects?

Also what's the best way to go about getting lockers?

Anything else helpful ya'll think I need please don't hectare t inform me I'm trying to write down a build sheet and prices so I can start building it the way I would like!

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Artec makes a nice truss and armor kit for the front for around $250. W/ 35's 30 or 44. Adding some strength is about all you need. You should think about ball joints as well, For the rear you can also do a truss but many just wait until the axle flanges bend and upgrade to chrome-moly axles.
Lockers/gearing ... These are parts only you can decide on depending on the type of wheeling you do.

There's a million upgrades available for jeeps. Some spend so it doesn't break, others wait until it does, then upgrade.

The build area was added to the forum for people to post and track their mods. Also for people like yourself to browse through, get ideas and ask questions. Check out the sticky area too (above JK tech)

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Old 02-09-2014, 04:57 AM   #3
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You've got a lift of sorts and 35's. Go wheel it and maybe get it stuck a few times before you decide what you need. The JK is very capable out of the box with just some good aggressive rubber. The mods that you are talking are not required unless you hit more technical or hardcore trails and rocks.

Quadratec and Nortridge have great online catalogs full of great mods that will empty your pockets just like they have ours.
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Do you have a winch? If not I would suggest it being your first upgrade. You have the lift and tires. Winch can be your best friend on the trail.
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Thanks everyone for the advice! And yes I do have a winch sorry I forgot to list that I have a Smittybilt src front bumper I believe it is with the xrc winch
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Should I upgrade my gearing since I'm running 35's ? The only reason I asked about the axles is some of my research has stated they could break and said something about sleeves or something. More input would be greatly appreciated
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Seeing how its an 09 and it's your "new" jeep.. the owner before you prob didn't do their home work before having all that installed and people like you and me are left to "clean up the mess" I'm not saying it was a wrong install.. unless the jeep is rolling down the highway sideways.. Check the history of the install and the history of what was stock or standard to that year jeep. I think going 35'' is a bit much is the jeep hasn't been altered in someway to help you in the long run. Can say you made a mistake in buying that jeep.. but you may have to put a bit more time and effort into correcting any issues that occur later on.
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Old 02-09-2014, 06:16 PM   #8
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Ok thank you! Any particular parts I should look at specifically
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Ok thank you! Any particular parts I should look at specifically
JSouth.. well first if yoru able to get under the jeep.. and not actually laying the snow like we are up here in MD.. see whats new or new looking.. Note any long arms, longer/taller coil springs, bushings, coil spacers (located on top of the coil) you may get lucky here and find a hard coil lift or soft coil lift. Meaning Teraflex and many others have an adjustable aluminum coil spacer that can rest under or ontop of the coil, where as the soft lift is nothing more than a polyurethane (rubber looking thing) on top of the coils. But don't get confused the JK's already come (from the factory) simi lifted to handle 31's, 32's and some cases 33's. so I'm thinking you might have a soft lift or a coil spaced about 1 3/4 inches - 2 1/2 inches wide/tall. In your case take some pics and post them here.. this would give all those interested a chance to actually see what you have.
Oh btw.. here are a few tips to figure out what you may or may not have:
The OEM Jeep Wrangler had "square" long arms that run along the frame about at the front of the door location to the front axle with bushings etc.. where as if the arm is round tubular looking, it's prob an after market kit lift. if you follow me. Just do a search for "square long arms" images and you can see there are a wide variety of options some square and other actually round. but it will give you some idea of what to look for.
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Old 02-09-2014, 07:49 PM   #10
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We are pretty clear here in RVA
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But those are the best pictures I can get tonight
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JSouth Images are worth it.. The only thing I see is that "procomp" white shocks. Which could be 1 of 2 things:

A) Soft lift, (coil spacers hidden in the top boot) because I don't see any other alterations to the setup.

Or

B) Semi Hard lift by upgrading the coils themselves and maybe including the spacers

Otherwise doesn't look like your in any hot water. Everything looks as it should.

As for the gear recto, I cant verify if you actually need any alterations.. thou is this jeep set up with a tow package?. but may not have a tow hitch. We got lucky. One of the previous owners of our 08 jeep was thinking ahead. He/she got the tow package and put the Rubicon wheel with the BFGoodrich mud terrains.
Because our and your jeeps have the Chrysler Pacifica engine, which is very capable of going off road, I feel that the new Fiat engine is more capable. thus you see allot more "newer" jeeps being lifted etc.
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Gearing will get back power loss and increase crawl ratio off road. auto/stick ? Speed you might be ok. You'll have to install the tires and see how she feels.
Drive it around. Get to know its limitations and upgrade as needed.

Assuming you have a Procomp lift and shocks which is known to ride on the rougher side.
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Yeah just did a search: Procomp 2 inch lift (coils and shocks) looks like what he has.
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Yea it is a little on the rough side lol but thanks guys!
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A buddy of mine has a set of rancho 9" travel shocks with about 7k miles on them that I can get for the low should I replace my pro comp ones for those?
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Hah. your like a kid in a candy store.. must be nice.

Well, I've been searching for the same thing.. but we aren't going to do any sort of lift except that Daystar sent me the coil spacers and have yet to install them cause we've been waiting to see what may come of getting new shocks. So that means we're looking for non-lifted shocks or shocks that would fall into that 0'' - 2'' range.
Yes I've even been considering the RS7000 by Rancho or the Bilsteins replacements.

It's still unclear if you have a 2'' or 3'' lift.. Your sort of around that area. But here is Rancho's site and I've set a custom search for 2" lifts:

Rancho Suspension: Upgrade Your Shocks
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Haha I do feel that way lol
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Haha yea I feel like it I'm just trying to learn as much as I can you know.. Also the rancho shocks I can get are the rs5000 series. It aloud his front tire to flex and clear 36" .. So that'd be nice lol also makes me wonder if it would be a smoother ride then
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Although I have tested the Monroe shocks (which Rancho is a division of) and I didn't like them. The ride was way to bounchy for my needs. KYB even offered to replace these Monroe's for me.. But I decline.
As for the Ranchos.. I'm sure they will offer something along the same line as the Procomps.. I believe what your actually suffering from is the coils themselves. They are made a bit longer but stiffer or even compressed as well.
Plus it could your tires.. inflated to much could make things seem stiff or rough yet not inflated enough you may end up with poor gas millage and any added weight can make improper inflated tires sluggish and the jeep could drift a bit when driving..
So as you can see were getting into other areas which can/could cause your rough ride. But then again.. it's a jeep thing sometimes you just have to deal with driving a tank to work and back.
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Haha yea but my main question is should I buy my buddies shocks from him and replace mine? Or jut buy them and hold to them just incase anything ever happens or just keep my pro comps?
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The 5000's are not very popular but I ran them on my TJ. They felt fine.
If they were the 9000's or 7000 s. I would jump on them.
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What He said..
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Ok thanks guys I appreciate it! I will stay with the pro comps and see how things do! Any other things I should look into getting lmk!
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Just to give ya little advise here.....First thing you should do is Pull the Engine Dip Stick and pull it daily until you get a good baseline on How much oil it's using.....iF Any.
These 3.8L engines are notorious for using oil !! No, they don't smoke, they just use it !
Some use lots others don't use any !!
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Thanks BH yea that would be terrible! I will start doing that!
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Gearing will get back power loss and increase crawl ratio off road. auto/stick ? Speed you might be ok. You'll have to install the tires and see how she feels.
Drive it around. Get to know its limitations and upgrade as needed.

Assuming you have a Procomp lift and shocks which is known to ride on the rougher side.
X2. But you already have the 35s, right? If you bought it I assume you like how it drives- so cross off gears at least for now. You can upgrade your axles as he mentioned- but you'd do that for different reasons.
Get it out there and figure out what you want to do with it. Rock crawl? Mud it? Simple ole dirt trails? That will help sort out what you need or want. (Though you're probably on the right trail replacing the shocks).
And please don't wheel alone the first few times. You have no idea of the workmanship on your mods. We had a guy's rear gears basically explode his first time out- on an easy trail. Failed driveshaft because the boot was leaking etc....You've got a winch- know how to use it.
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@jeepherz. Thanks. Yea I already have 35's an it rides pretty good but is sluggish on the interstate going up hills. But I plan to do most dirt trails and would like to get into moderate rock crawling eventually once I learn the ins and outs of wheeling lol. But yea I definatly don't plan to go alone for a little while! Lol but I definatly don't want to do mud as my main criteria I mean if it's part if the trail sure but I did plenty of that when I had my lifted 96 z71 and I just got tired of trying to get te mud out if everything when I tried I be clean lol my white truck turned off white after three years lol and lost it's shine!
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But thanks everyone for the help!

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