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Old 10-08-2013, 05:16 PM   #91
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does anybody know if the OME 2" heavy load lift is an actual 2" lift and not more? and what about the light load version of the lift (which i assume has softer coils)
Are they model specific. (2 door/4 door) or is there coils for each ?

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Are they model specific. (2 door/4 door) or is there coils for each ?
no they make both versions for the 2 door and 4 door

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?I just bought a new JKUS I think means Wrangler Unlimited Sport. I want to beef it up. Do not plan on any real serious off roading, just want the look. Do you have a recomendation of lift brand and tires. And do you know if putting on a lift will make the factory warrently no good. Thank you.
I've got a TF 2.5" lift with Bilstein shocks and a RK adjustable front trackbar with 285/70-17 DuraTracs and it rides pretty well. On the highway and in turns it rides great, but on poor roads some bumps can be a little jarring. I've aired down my DuraTracs to 30 psi and that has helped some and also I plan to install the AEV geo brackets in the next few weeks.

Kjeeper10 is going to say I should toss the Bilsteins for a set Rancho R9000xls, but I'm going to give my Bilsteins a little more time to break in and see if the ride improves once I install the AEV geo brackets.
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does anybody know if the OME 2" heavy load lift is an actual 2" lift and not more? and what about the light load version of the lift (which i assume has softer coils)
I've read the OME 2" HD lift can be a rough ride if you don't put extra weight on it like heavy aftermarket bumpers, winch and armor, but I don't have any experience with it myself.

Here is a forum link discussing the OME lift. HD included.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/old...it-243866.html
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I've got a TF 2.5" lift with Bilstein shocks and a RK adjustable front trackbar with 285/70-17 DuraTracs and it rides pretty well. On the highway and in turns it rides great, but on poor roads some bumps can be a little jarring. I've aired down my DuraTracs to 30 psi and that has helped some and also I plan to install the AEV geo brackets in the next few weeks. Kjeeper10 is going to say I should toss the Bilsteins for a set Rancho R9000xls, but I'm going to give my Bilsteins a little more time to break in and see if the ride improves once I install the AEV geo brackets.
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I've read the OME 2" HD lift can be a rough ride if you don't put extra weight on it like heavy aftermarket bumpers, winch and armor, but I don't have any experience with it myself.

Here is a forum link discussing the OME lift. HD included.

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in that link they were saying that they have the HD lift with an aftermarket bumper, winch and winch armor and they still got 3" of lift. (i plan on getting a bumper and winch)

i would like to stay under three inches so i wouldn't have to replace the front drive shaft
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I just got my Rancho geo brackets a week or so ago and my TF 2.5 spring lift with adapters should be here by end of next week.

I can't wait to get'r lifted!
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I was on some rough roads this past weekend and my kidneys were seriously considering some new shocks. My hope is that given some more time to break-in along with adjusting my front axle geometry the ride will improve.
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I just got my Rancho geo brackets a week or so ago and my TF 2.5 spring lift with adapters should be here by end of next week.

I can't wait to get'r lifted!
Be sure to take before and after photos.

I've got the same lift so I am very interested to see what your caster is at once you install the Rancho geo brackets. Do you plan to get your front end aligned when you finish the lift and geo bracket installation?
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I was on some rough roads this past weekend and my kidneys were seriously considering some new shocks. My hope is that given some more time to break-in along with adjusting my front axle geometry the ride will improve.
The brackets will do that for you
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I just got my Rancho geo brackets a week or so ago and my TF 2.5 spring lift with adapters should be here by end of next week. I can't wait to get'r lifted!


Post pics and details in my Rancho drop bracket thread.
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I am having installed a 2 inch Stage 2 Mopar with Fox shocks, and had a question about leveling out the front of my Jeep.

I have a JK Brawler Lite Front Bumper with Brawler Bar and a Warn Zeon 10,000 lbs. winch on the front of my Jeep (Just to give you a estimate weight). I measured the drop and the back of the Jeep is 18 ˝ and front measures in at 16 1/2. I was going to have installed a ReadyLIFT 1.5" Billet Leveling Kit along with the lift.

Does anyone have any other suggestions or comments about the leveling sizes? Should I go higher? Should I use a different leveling kit?

This is for a 2013 Unlimited Rubicon
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I am having installed a 2 inch Stage 2 Mopar with Fox shocks, and had a question about leveling out the front of my Jeep. I have a JK Brawler Lite Front Bumper with Brawler Bar and a Warn Zeon 10,000 lbs. winch on the front of my Jeep (Just to give you a estimate weight). I measured the drop and the back of the Jeep is 18 ˝ and front measures in at 16 1/2. I was going to have installed a ReadyLIFT 1.5" Billet Leveling Kit along with the lift. Does anyone have any other suggestions or comments about the leveling sizes? Should I go higher? Should I use a different leveling kit? This is for a 2013 Unlimited Rubicon
What points are you measuring from ?

Teraflex offers a spacer which also acts as a coil retainer. I would just add what you lost in the front.
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What points are you measuring from ? Teraflex offers a spacer which also acts as a coil retainer. I would just add what you lost in the front.
From the Rubi-Rail on the frame.
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Measuring the coils is the right way but you can measure from mid wheel to bottom flare.
20 1/4 front and 21 1/4 rear is a good stock estimate.
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You would def benefit with a small lift to increase breakover angle with a little more belly clearance with the 4 door-Especially running a 33" opposed to a 35 or 37.
Spring or spacers (BB) If you plan on bumpers/winch coils would better handle the weight.
If not, the true benefit to a BB is you won't exceed the listed height of 2.5" creating the need for more expensive modifications.

Plus .... You can always swap in coils later if you choose.
Kjeeper.... I talked with an installer and he strongly discouraged a 2.5 BB saying that it will mess up the caster allignment and strongly affect the handling. He says to do things correctly I should do a 3.5 short arm lift (RE) otherwise I'd probably be having to redo it later. Also, after gettng my new BFG M/T KM2s, I find that they are 25 lbs heavier per tire than the OEMs and I suspect that heavier shocks would be required. What do you think? Thx.
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Kjeeper.... I talked with an installer and he strongly discouraged a 2.5 BB saying that it will mess up the caster allignment and strongly affect the handling. He says to do things correctly I should do a 3.5 short arm lift (RE) otherwise I'd probably be having to redo it later. Also, after gettng my new BFG M/T KM2s, I find that they are 25 lbs heavier per tire than the OEMs and I suspect that heavier shocks would be required. What do you think? Thx.
Lol... One reason I do my own work. Well he's right but think about it ? ANY LIFT will affect caster. (Read the first paragraph in this thread) Coils or spacers it doesn't matter. My guess is he is a RE dealer ?

Honestly bud... Coils will be "better" and going with a complete short arm is the way to go. Will you "need" all 8 arms ? Depends on lift height and if you want to maximize the performance of your suspension.

Back to caster. Caster is the angle of your front housing. A line through the ball joints, lifting rotates the axle up bringing the lower ball joint closer in line with the upper. All you need to do to fix caster is rotate the axle back down some. (First paragraph)

If you want a more complete kit I highly advise talking to a vender on here. The markup will kill you buying from a shop,

You should replace the shocks. The overall extended/collapsed lengths of oem are too short. Shocks are your limiting factor and it would be a complete waste to not run longer ones.
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Thanks. I think he handles several brands, but seems to like the RE product line. He does work for our "off-road bunch" here, so I thnk the folks trust him, but he's more of a perfectionist. Do you have any particular lift brands that you like (not looking for a "one only", but ones that have good recommendations in the WF.... I know, everyone has an opinion!) I guess going with a short arm at 3.5 would be better than a 2.5 BB. He was quoting $2254 w/ RE monotube shocks (made by Bilstein).

(Jeez, it's tough being a newbie!)
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RE is pretty good from what I see. Why they haven't really grabbed the JK market like the Tj beats me.

I'm sure it's complete but do you have a link ?

As for lifts, company's here that are popular and have outstanding customer service and support on the forums.
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New to all this. Thought I was a GMC/Chevy guy till I bought a 2014 JKUS. Now all I want is knowledge. I think I have to go 2.5" Teraflex and 35" wheels. What else do I need? I have a 4K cap. Any advise is welcome. Thanks to all...
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RE is pretty good from what I see. Why they haven't really grabbed the JK market like the Tj beats me.

I'm sure it's complete but do you have a link ?

As for lifts, company's here that are popular and have outstanding customer service and support on the forums.
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RE looks pretty good, but, hey, what do I know? Here's the link

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Yes we do oh wise one. We need that advice and we may even listen. I know I am. I am figuring your great advice has made me want the mods now and that cost me some serious bucks. Mopar stage 3. I know you said the adjustable castor or something that you mentioned doesn't come with the mopar one but the dealer is giving me a deal or he says he will and they also will warranty it and they will include all the break line extensions and everything else. Not to mention I will add it to my financing so it will only be an additional $40/month.

Can you tell me if I should go steel wheels or aluminum. I like the look of aluminum and the weight savings but I don't want to be foolish. I am living in co and they salt the roads at times. I also will see some rock crawling and off road use as I am making some friends and will be dragged along on some rides. Don't want to have any short comings with what I do.
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Yes we do oh wise one. We need that advice and we may even listen. I know I am. I am figuring your great advice has made me want the mods now and that cost me some serious bucks. Mopar stage 3. I know you said the adjustable castor or something that you mentioned doesn't come with the mopar one but the dealer is giving me a deal or he says he will and they also will warranty it and they will include all the break line extensions and everything else. Not to mention I will add it to my financing so it will only be an additional $40/month.
That works. Your caster is altered with fixed control arms. it's just the adjustable part that you won't have.

Aluminum wheels are more popular but more expensive obviously.
- won't rust
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- I've heard of people having balancing issues with steel.
- there's quite a few of 15" wheels that work if you go that route. 15" steel the calipers need to be ground.
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New to all this. Thought I was a GMC/Chevy guy till I bought a 2014 JKUS. Now all I want is knowledge. I think I have to go 2.5" Teraflex and 35" wheels. What else do I need? I have a 4K cap. Any advise is welcome. Thanks to all...
2.5" TF spring lift w/shock adaptors - $550ish
Wheel spacers if you run stock rims $250ish
Rancho Geo correction bracket (not needed, but to me it makes sense why you would want it, and might as well put it on at the same time as the lift) $160ish
tires - $2200 ish (varies with what tire and your location. I'm in Ontario Canada and I bought 35x12.5x17 BFG KM2s)

Install - yourself if capable or few hundred bucks from a shop

I don't think I'm missing anything, but you may also want a AEV procal if you have an auto or don't like having the idiot lights lit up on your dash. I'm currently looking for an AEV or good alternatives.
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Good Stuff KJ! Thanks!
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has anybody (KJeeper) heard anything about the birdog wheels that are from interco? They are supposed to be similar to a bead lock but not a true bead lock. I was thinking of getting them. I don't hate the design don't love it either but the wheels are supposed to be great for off road and function sometimes trump form.
I was also looking at either the gy mtr or interco m16 which they say is an all terrain but it's almost as aggresive as BFG muds.
wheels would be 16 or 17x8 as I don't want to deal with caliper issues or I would go 15". The tires would be 295 70's basically 33.5x12.5 the guy said.

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Hmm you know they sounded familiar so I googled them and WF.
Interco Birddog Wheel
And ....... What do you know. A post made by me.
I like them. Seem to be a very stout wheel. Not bad on price either.

Goodyear MTR's (maximum traction) are a popular tire. Can't go wrong there either.
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I guess I'll chime in and see what others think. I'm getting ready to order a 14 rubicon x 4dr. I think I'm going to get the rock krawler 2.5" max travel kit, fox 2.0 adjustable res. Shocks, TF exhaust spacers, and 35" mud grapplers on 18x10 moto 962 black wheels. With that being said this will basically be our toy not necessarily a daily driver, maybe 10,000 miles a year mostly town and highway with an occasional trip to Colorado to hit some green easy trails. Does anyone have experience with the RK kits? I see a lot of positives especially for the price. Is there anything I'm missing? Anything else recommended? Thanks in advance for any advice!
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I think you chosen well. Don't care for the tire choice but some like them. Any reason for 18's and not 17's ?

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