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Old 05-31-2014, 06:03 PM   #1381
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Would it be a good investment to get the bolt upgrade up front for my suspension install? I like to do things correctly the first time.
The two front track bar bolts absolutely. 07-12 9/16 lower, 9/16 upper. 2012 plus 9/16 lower, 14 mm upper. If you prefer the source the bolts separately.

The lower kit does both track bars and lower CA's.
The complete kit adds uppers as well. (Overkill IMO)

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Old 05-31-2014, 09:19 PM   #1382
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Another dumb question. I see a lot of recommendations to do the bolt upgrade on 07-12 but not much mention of 13-14. I have a 14....same recommendation to upgrade? These bolt kits seem super expensive. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places or don't know the price of bolts

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Another dumb question. I see a lot of recommendations to do the bolt upgrade on 07-12 but not much mention of 13-14. I have a 14....same recommendation to upgrade? These bolt kits seem super expensive. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places or don't know the price of bolts
Bolt upgrade holds true for all years. Try Northridge....believe I paid like $50 or less.
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Same .. Except for the frame side TB bushing is different on 12-14. It won't take a 9/16 bolt.
The bolts are still a good upgrade.
Northridge 4x4 has the lowers/TB's for $40
The kit includes both 9/16 and 14mm for 12-14

There's also a grade 9 kit and the kit with upper CA bolts. I don't buy into grade 9 and doing the uppers.
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Old 05-31-2014, 10:20 PM   #1385
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Awesome. Northridges website wasn't working for a few weeks but looks like it's up.

So below is good? Rather not have to go back and do it things over (like uppers) if I can avoid it.

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Kit Includes:
(4) Domestic 9/16‐18 X 3" Grade 8 Hex Head Cap Screw Yellow Zinc
(8) Domestic 9/16‐18 X 4" Grade 8 Hex Head Cap Screw Yellow Zinc
(12) 9/16‐18 Grade C All Metal Hex Lock Nut Zinc
(24) 9/16" Super 9 SAE (Type A Narrow) Flat Washer Yellow Zinc

(2) 14MM bolt and Lock Nut Zinc
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Awesome. Northridges website wasn't working for a few weeks but looks like it's up. So below is good? Rather not have to go back and do it things over (like uppers) if I can avoid it. $44 Kit Includes: (4) Domestic 9/16‐18 X 3" Grade 8 Hex Head Cap Screw Yellow Zinc (8) Domestic 9/16‐18 X 4" Grade 8 Hex Head Cap Screw Yellow Zinc (12) 9/16‐18 Grade C All Metal Hex Lock Nut Zinc (24) 9/16" Super 9 SAE (Type A Narrow) Flat Washer Yellow Zinc (2) 14MM bolt and Lock Nut Zinc
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Awesome! MC front bumps and bolt upgrade ordered today! I'm going to wait on rear bumps because it looks like these are much easier to add after the fact vs. Dropping the coils ect for the front
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Actually .. If the holes are already drilled. You should be able to add stop in-between the coils.
Raise the frame for more clearance.
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Just stopping by to read up... Great info
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A guy in a brown truck dropped off this yesterday... Thinking I shoulda went with the 2.5" coils...
Nice Metal Cloak kit!!?

You'll be happy with the 3.5" coils in the long run
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Actually .. If the holes are already drilled. You should be able to add stop in-between the coils. Raise the frame for more clearance.
"Kjeeper10" is correct, once you've drilled the 1/2" hole for the pucks, you change them out anytime without pulling the coil.
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Same .. Except for the frame side TB bushing is different on 12-14. It won't take a 9/16 bolt.
The bolts are still a good upgrade.
Northridge 4x4 has the lowers/TB's for $40
The kit includes both 9/16 and 14mm for 12-14

There's also a grade 9 kit and the kit with upper CA bolts. I don't buy into grade 9 and doing the uppers.

my 2012 took the 9/16s on both sides.
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Old 06-02-2014, 07:51 AM   #1393
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my 2012 took the 9/16s on both sides.
So when did jeep change over to the rod end style track bar ,
Actually now that I think about it. Sue and a jeep I lifted were 12 and 13. Both 9/16 hmmm
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ive done the upgrade out of my local ace on 4 or five jeeps now. all were 12 plus. used 9/16. they all had upgraded trackbars tho
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It's not the mount, it's the bushing in the factory TB.
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Old 06-02-2014, 08:46 AM   #1397
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Good Thread! I have 2013 10A 2 DR and front really sags after winch and bumper bar. Taking out rear seat and replacing hard top didn't help any either. I really don't want lift kit and would only consider RK 1.5 inch suspension lift if I had to. I only plan on running 33's, flat fender flares, and additional protection underneath. Would leveling kit, thinking about AEV, work ok? Really just need front lifted so would some springs from 10A 4 Dr work? My rig looks like a helicopter going down the road so probably needs 2 or more inches up front. Might get to actually measure it today after new hard top is installed. Any opinions welcomed.
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Thanks.. I'm not sure how the 10a 4 door/2 door coils work. Ifs there's a range offered like normal JK coils. You want height on all 4 corners ?
you are looking at about 2" with RK 1.5's, and IMO are a great option for a 2 door.
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Thanks.. I'm not sure how the 10a 4 door/2 door coils work. Ifs there's a range offered like normal JK coils. You want height on all 4 corners ?
you are looking at about 2" with RK 1.5's, and IMO are a great option for a 2 door.
I really just need front lifted up to level. The rear is high enough. Can rear springs from 10A JKU be put on front of my 10A JK if 2-3 inches lift needed up front or can swap only be made front to front and rear to rear?
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I really just need front lifted up to level. The rear is high enough. Can rear springs from 10A JKU be put on front of my 10A JK if 2-3 inches lift needed up front or can swap only be made front to front and rear to rear?
No they won't work. I think your best bet is throwing a 1" -1.5" spacer up front. I mean it, would be trial and error not knowing if there's a rate difference in the 10a coils.
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ordered the MetalCloak 2.5in dual rate arb with EMU shocks today. Will be in shortly, I'm super stoked. I was thinking the RK max travel but I kept going back to the MC.
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ordered the MetalCloak 2.5in dual rate arb with EMU shocks today. Will be in shortly, I'm super stoked. I was thinking the RK max travel but I kept going back to the MC.
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ordered the MetalCloak 2.5in dual rate arb with EMU shocks today. Will be in shortly, I'm super stoked. I was thinking the RK max travel but I kept going back to the MC.
Yep .. Good deal.
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I doubt I'll ever move up to a GC it would be nice but 2k for shocks is a little out of my range. Unless I hit the jack pot
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I doubt I'll ever move up to a GC it would be nice but 2k for shocks is a little out of my range. Unless I hit the jack pot
Those shocks are designed for up and down travel meaning your jeep has to be set up with high line fenders/no fenders and no up travel limits like a drag link flip. I think they're great in all but overkill for most people. A good long travel shock like the OME, you'll be fine
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Posted here a month ago looking at the RK 1.5 Expedition kit. Did some more research and thought that I may want a little more lift and also thought that the control arms on that lift where overkill. Met some local jeepers and through discussions recommended the following for 2014 JKUS with 295/75/16 tires:

- Synergy 2” JK 4 Dr Front & Back Springs
- Fox JK Front Shocks, Smooth Body IFP 2.0 9.6 inch980-24-887 (2)
- Fox JK Rear Shocks, Smooth Body IFP 2.0 9.1 inch980-24-888 (2)
- 2” Synergy JK Front Bump Stops
- 2” Synergy JK Rear Bump Stops
- Synergy JK Front Lower Shock Mount Bracket
- Synergy JK Brake Line Relocation Kit Front & Rear
- Synergy JK Front Track Bar
- Synergy JK Rear Track Bar
- EVO JK Rock Star Skids
- JKS JK Adj End Links
- JKS JK Quicker Disconnects

Thinking I would end up with a 2.25-2.5 lift as I have all stock bumpers and no winch. Looking to add Front Runner roof rack for the back and that will add about 60lbs. Want to do some crawling, but main focus is more longer overland trips.

That being said, do you think some items on this list are overkill, such as the new rear track bar and jks end links? I have the mindset to do it right the first time, but this package is not cheap. Thanks for your insight. - E
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I have a perfect Synergy kit for you. Hold up and I'll find it. I would still install front lower arms. Tweak the caster a bit for good handling. Remove the rear track bar. Not needed if running a raised rear bracket which I recommend.

Is the 9.1 and 9.6 travel specs for the Fox shocks. If not what are the ext/call lengths?
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Oh crap... It's a 3" kit. Well I'll post anyways.
http://www.rivercityoffroad.com/Prod...de=PPM-30-Econ
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The info on the fox shocks are as follows:

980-24-887 Front Fox Shocks Fox Performance Series Smooth Body IFP Shock Internal Reservoir - Single - Extended 25.15 in. - Collapsed 15.55 in. - Stroke 9.6 in.

980-24-888 Rear Fox Shocks Fox Performance Series Smooth Body IFP Shock Internal Reservoir - Single - Extended 24.75 in. - Collapsed 15.65 in. - Stroke 9.1 in.
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Thanks for finding info on that lift. I was also looking at the Synergy Stage 1 kit

SYNERGY MANUFACTURING┬*::┬*Jeep JK┬*::┬*Synergy Jeep JK Stage 1 Suspension System, 2" Lift

Doesn't have the control ARMs or disco's though.

With possibly netting around 2.5" in lift, do you think the CA's will be necessary or could I take an approach to wait and see what my castor comes back in at after the lift? Sounds like you think the CA's are more important than the track bar upgrades.

Also, some have opinioned that the rear track bar relocation bracket is generally needed for taller lifts (3"+) to adjust for the roller center. Thoughts? And thanks again for your help and expertise.

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