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Old 10-26-2013, 10:13 PM   #241
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It’s amazing how installing adjustable arms, correcting the caster, significantly improves the on road stability. Have driven it for 200 miles on rough hwys at 70mph with 1 finger on the wheel and it’s very stable - no more flightiness, tracking or white knuckes. I probably didn’t need to get all 8 arms but I figured long term this was the better solution. Being this is my first Wrangler I was very close to giving up and put er up for sale. Only thing left is fine tuning alignment. For those who havent read my previous posts, I bought my rig used with a basic Rubicon Express 3.5” basic lift (coils, cam bolts, bump stops, adj track bar and rear track bar bracket, sway bar end links) with Bilstein HD shocks. Retorqued everything on the ground, tested with diff tire pressures,alignment without any luck. Here’s the part numbers for reference: Control Arm Kit (Adj) PPM-8023-02 (FL 8051, RL 8052, FU 8053, RU 8054) Cam Bolt Washer Fix Kit (2) PPM 8014 (to fill in cam holes from RE kit) Thanks to all who have contributed to this forum!
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Old 10-27-2013, 05:26 PM   #242
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Drock, I am in your same boat! You really have to ask yourself a few questions before you do anything:

1) What do you want to do with your Jeep? trail riding? Heavy off-roading involving rocks, steep angles etc.

2) How much you want to spend?

3)How much lift you want?

the reason i ask how much lift you want is because companies like RK and Synergy end up netting wranglers more lift that advertised which brings in more issues such as CA's, drive shafts, adj. track bar(s) etc.

NOW-If your not in a hurry....December RK will release their 1.5 kits which will net right at 2.5 inches, saving you trouble as you might incur with the current stock mod. Their 1.5 inch MAX TRAVEL will retail for 1,249.00 which give you front and rear CA's, trackbar, steel brake lines and triple rate coils FRONT AND REAR!

This is exactly where I am headed. Yes, its expensive BUT...better to do it right once and be done. Also, its easy to upgrade later so you wish to go for a bigger lift.

JK 1.5" MAX TRAVEL

Otherwise, that Teraflex 2.5 kit is great also! Krawl-offroad has it for 721 bux shipped complete with shocks. Might need a trackbar.

Just my thoughts! best of luck

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I wheel Id say more than average for sure but looking to add bumpers and stuff along the way. that 1.5 kit sounds perfect if it truly nets 2.5. What you think keeper? I don't want more than 2.5-3 max due to accessibility for a few peeps i take with me plus getting the control arms and such are something i really want. Id say my purchase time will fall late jan or feb so if you get this lift please let me know how it is. Just got back from a trip to shoe creek with my jeep buddies it was my Jks first real wheeling trip and I gotta say it did really well. I can't wait to get a little lift and tires on there. Its a little harder to squeeze in some areas due to its size than my TJ but really did great for stock. The gearing was a bit hard to get used to and ended up running in 4lo 3rd gear which is new for me but it was almost useless to even use 1st lol. 4 hi was almost useless during steep inclines as it continued to bog down and want to die. anyone else have this? I know the 4.10s are why it revved so high and maybe it will feel a bit better once the tires are bigger. just trying to get some assurance this is normal as it was my first time on the trail in a JK. I never thought id say it but the power windows, cushy seats, push button disco all were very nice!

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Old 10-27-2013, 05:51 PM   #243
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I wheel Id say more than average for sure but looking to add bumpers and stuff along the way. that 1.5 kit sounds perfect if it truly nets 2.5. What you think keeper? I don't want more than 2.5-3 max due to accessibility for a few peeps i take with me plus getting the control arms and such are something i really want. Id say my purchase time will fall late jan or feb so if you get this lift please let me know how it is. Just got back from a trip to shoe creek with my jeep buddies it was my Jks first real wheeling trip and I gotta say it did really well. I can't wait to get a little lift and tires on there. Its a little harder to squeeze in some areas due to its size than my TJ but really did great for stock. The gearing was a bit hard to get used to and ended up running in 4lo 3rd gear which is new for me but it was almost useless to even use 1st lol. 4 hi was almost useless during steep inclines as it continued to bog down and want to die. anyone else have this? I know the 4.10s are why it revved so high and maybe it will feel a bit better once the tires are bigger. just trying to get some assurance this is normal as it was my first time on the trail in a JK. I never thought id say it but the power windows, cushy seats, push button disco all were very nice!
With weight you should be closer to 2.5". I don't see netting over 3" regardless.
These are high rev engines. You want to be higher in the RPM range for power.
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not a fan of the high rev lol but it did fine once i adjusted. You are referring to the 3.6 to clarify? Also, with weight are you referring to the 1.5 or 2.5 rk lift? it may be a while after lift before i can add bumpers and such unless i can sell my rubi wheels quick lol.
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not a fan of the high rev lol but it did fine once i adjusted. You are referring to the 3.6 to clarify? Also, with weight are you referring to the 1.5 or 2.5 rk lift? it may be a while after lift before i can add bumpers and such unless i can sell my rubi wheels quick lol.
Both 3.6 and 3.8. What's high for you ?

The 1.5" coils.
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Both 3.6 and 3.8. What's high for you ?

The 1.5" coils.
with it in 4 low with the 4.10s I really don't want anything above 2000rpm. things are heating up quite a bit at that i would think. Am I wrong? I noticed both quite a whine and smell if i let it go much above that for long. Again, I'm coming from a tj to a jk so maybe I just need to get more time with my new baby on the trails. It also only has 8000 miles so I figure that could be part of some of the moans and groans. I appreciate your continued advise. Its amazing how different of a vehicle the JK is compared to the TJ and at the same time very similar. Still I was happy with its performance overall. another question. I had several times the transfer case was quite difficult to shift from 4 hi and low. I know they are prone to easy breakage so I was trying not to force it. Any thoughts why it would be so tight? I tried it stopped in neutral and found neutral but rolling to be the easiest way to shift it. Is that the standard method? I need to see if novak has a solution for that.
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Me too. Drove a TJ For 10 years. 2000,
That's nothing my friend. Peak HP is somewhere near 4-5k
I haven't done any serious stuff but I get up to 3-3.5 at times crawling.
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Me too. Drove a TJ For 10 years. 2000,
That's nothing my friend. Peak HP is somewhere near 4-5k
I haven't done any serious stuff but I get up to 3-3.5 at times crawling.
well, thats good to know. Still seems that 4 turns from that transfer case to every tire rotation at 2000 rpm will lead to rapid heat up. Do you have the rubi? or the 4 to 1 transfer case? that my only concern not really the engine revs. also, what are your thoughts on the transfer case shifting difficulty? Continued thanks for your feedback.
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yup i see in your sig you have the rubi sorry.
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I've almost taken over this thread and sorry for that but seems hard to find helpful advise when you have time id love to know your thoughts on the shifting of transfer case.
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neutral but rolling to be the easiest way to shift it. Is that the standard method?

I find neutral and rolling the easiest as well
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Yes ... Sometimes it will go from a stop, but you should be rolling for the gears to line up.
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Kjeeper.... one quick question.... a little off from lifting, but here goes anyway. Got a 2013 JKU w/ BFG M/T KM2 33" and am running stock 3.21 gears w/ 5 spd auto. Am looking at installing Detroit Tru-Tracs front and back. Was thinking 3.73 but my mech thinks 4.10's would be better. Not planning on going bigger with tires. Any recommendation? Thx
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Kjeeper.... one quick question.... a little off from lifting, but here goes anyway. Got a 2013 JKU w/ BFG M/T KM2 33" and am running stock 3.21 gears w/ 5 spd auto. Am looking at installing Detroit Tru-Tracs front and back. Was thinking 3.73 but my mech thinks 4.10's would be better. Not planning on going bigger with tires. Any recommendation? Thx
My opinion .. 4.10's for increased crawl ratio. Plus, I couldn't justify paying $1500-$2000 in gearing only going up to 3.73
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This thread is full of major info.

Question ... I've been on the fence for a little over a month on what lift to put on my 2013 Unlimted Rubi 10 Year Ann. I want to go with a 35" so I'm looking at 3" lift. EVerything I've read says when you go over 3" you really start to mess with geometry. I looked at the Rancho 3" Trail with 9000 shocks. The kit looks like it comes with everything I need.

Do you think this is a good fit or would you have a better recommendation? I have a $2800 - $3000 budget for lift. I use my jeep for normal life during the week and on the weekends mostly bouldering in the desert and Sedona.
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I'm looking to get a Lift kit and suspension upgrade for my 2008 Jeep Unlimited. I've been looking online for hours and have found a bunch of helpful information but I am very OCD and I want to make sure I'm getting the right things. I'd like a 4, 4 1/2, or 5 inch lift, and I would also like to see if I can put fox racing shocks on it or any other types of racing shocks that are as good as Fox or better. What I really would like to know if there are any list kids that go good with fox, or if I need to go with something else. Also would like to know if there is a package that comes with the lift and fox racing shocks. As much info as possible will be awesome!
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If there is a package that comes with everything and doesn't break the bank that would be awesome too, and it has to be really good quality because I will be going every day long distances and off-road sometimes
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New owner of a BILLET SILVER 2014 JKUS...my build as time and budget allow will be all AEV components. I am convinced that AEV is really doing the proper research and development for their US made JK specific suspensions and components.
They are also very friendly, patient and extremely knowledgeable when you call and inquire about their products. For what it's worth...

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I'm looking to get a Lift kit and suspension upgrade for my 2008 Jeep Unlimited. I've been looking online for hours and have found a bunch of helpful information but I am very OCD and I want to make sure I'm getting the right things. I'd like a 4, 4 1/2, or 5 inch lift, and I would also like to see if I can put fox racing shocks on it or any other types of racing shocks that are as good as Fox or better. What I really would like to know if there are any list kids that go good with fox, or if I need to go with something else. Also would like to know if there is a package that comes with the lift and fox racing shocks. As much info as possible will be awesome!
Have you looked at the LCG teraflex prerunner kit? 4-5" is a ton of lift and honesty overkill in most situations.
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Very informative thread, thank you! I was planning to buy a base JK and have AEV install a lift, but then ran across a used vehicle with an existing lift and 315 tires, which would spare a chunk of change. I don’t plan on doing any serious off-roading and am basically interested in the appearance, but given that I’m neither mechanically inclined nor anywhere near the dealership to test drive the vehicle in question, is there any way to determine from these pictures if this is a proper lift setup or one I’m going to regret purchasing? Much appreciated!

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Very informative thread, thank you! I was planning to buy a base JK and have AEV install a lift, but then ran across a used vehicle with an existing lift and 315 tires, which would spare a chunk of change. I don’t plan on doing any serious off-roading and am basically interested in the appearance, but given that I’m neither mechanically inclined nor anywhere near the dealership to test drive the vehicle in question, is there any way to determine from these pictures if this is a proper lift setup or one I’m going to regret purchasing? Much appreciated! http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/x...penshaw/01.jpg http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/x...penshaw/02.jpg http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/x...penshaw/03.jpg http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/x...penshaw/04.jpg
Most will tell you to run. Honesty price will be the contributing factor. As for the lift .... Procomp is entry level. Sold mostly at chain stores like 4w parts. I don't see any kind of caster correction. The basic shocks are known to ride rough. My thoughts the jeep probably drives poorly the way it's set up. Unless getting it for a steal I would not buy it,
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Most will tell you to run. Honesty price will be the contributing factor. As for the lift .... Procomp is entry level. Sold mostly at chain stores like 4w parts. I don't see any kind of caster correction. The basic shocks are known to ride rough. My thoughts the jeep probably drives poorly the way it's set up. Unless getting it for a steal I would not buy it,
very well said. you'd be better off starting with a clean slate. it sounds dumb... but keep your rig stock for a bit, unless you're lifting purely for looks. learn how it feels, so you know "what right feels like" before you lift and begin modifying your jeep. the more you understand that... they less chasing you'll have to do to get things back in order once you actually start..

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Most will tell you to run. Honesty price will be the contributing factor. As for the lift .... Procomp is entry level. Sold mostly at chain stores like 4w parts. I don't see any kind of caster correction. The basic shocks are known to ride rough. My thoughts the jeep probably drives poorly the way it's set up. Unless getting it for a steal I would not buy it,
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very well said. you'd be better off starting with a clean slate. it sounds dumb... but keep your rig stock for a bit, unless you're lifting purely for looks. learn how it feels, so you know "what right feels like" before you lift and begin modifying your jeep. the more you understand that... they less chasing you'll have to do to get things back in order once you actually start..

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Thank you both! Great advice--I'll stick to stock plus a quality lift. Much appreciated!
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I will have to check those out. How is the ride quality tho? it will be my daily driver.

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