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Old 07-16-2014, 11:02 AM   #1
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Nitro Trail Glappers or MTR Kevlar

I'm looking at 35x12.50x17s daily driver, some weekend off roading. Which brand will be closer to 35"? Guys please advise.

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Old 07-16-2014, 11:27 AM   #2
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trail grapplers i believe are very close to a true 35" ... they are beast off roading and run surprisingly quiet. going from stock rubicon wheels to 35" nitto trail grapplers i do not notice any extra noise. but they are more expensive than MTR kevlars. i have also heard that the MTR kevlars have a stiffer sidewall which is good and bad.
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Old 07-16-2014, 01:35 PM   #3
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Personally my favorite is the Nitto's. The only reason I went with the MTR's was the price and the kevlar sides. We have lots of sharp rocks here in CO and id hate to have a puncture from one of them while on the trail.
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Both I believe are in the few true to size categories. I've owned both and would recommend either really. Price and cosmetic preference really will help you decide which is right. I will say the MTRs for me were a nightmare when it came to balancing. If you research this on the inter webs you'll see that most have balancing issues with the MTRs but there are those that don't too and swear by them.
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Both I believe are in the few true to size categories. I've owned both and would recommend either really. Price and cosmetic preference really will help you decide which is right. I will say the MTRs for me were a nightmare when it came to balancing. If you research this on the inter webs you'll see that most have balancing issues with the MTRs but there are those that don't too and swear by them.
I'm one who swears by them. I had multiple sets on my TJ's and H2. Getting ready for 305/70/17's on my JK. Haven't experienced balance issues. And many times those i had were 35's on steelies and 37" on my H2.
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I have the mtrs in a 37 very pleased with them and yes I have a bit of a balancing issue just doesn't really bother me enough to have them rebalanced. Off road they are nothing short of awesome I have a lot of confidence when I'm on the trail. They are about ok on the street with balancing aside. They seem to track a little funny but in no way uncomfortable. When these are done I'll try the nittos just to try something different. And yes they are true to size
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My 38" MTRKs are 38". They were not hard to balance, They were not cheap, thats for sure,goods tires.
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I bought my JKU slightly used and the previous owner had put on 33" Nitto trail Grapplers. From the little off-roading I have done, these tires are great off-road. If I lived in an area where I did lots of off-roading, I would definitely buy them again. But, 95% of my driving is on the road so I do not really need this aggressive of a tire. I will be getting the Cooper ST MAXX when these wear out. I have 26,000 miles on these tires now and the tread is about half worn. Oh, I had priced these tires just to see what they cost and I found they are around $320 each locally.
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i paid $310 each for 35s ... but the online vendor price matched amazon. if you hunt around you can find good deals on rubber.

you cannot go wrong either way. when i was making my choice, i boiled it down to these two as well.
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I've had experience with the grapplers and didn't like them. I'd go toyo MTs. Don't have experience with MTRs
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I've had experience with the grapplers and didn't like them. I'd go toyo MTs. Don't have experience with MTRs
You have experience with toyo MTs ? I'm trying to decide between nittos n toyos. Thanks
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thank you guys for all your feed back. I will decide base on price. Will keep you posted.

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My issue .. Shops around here don't take the time to properly balance tires. Sometimes it takes 2-3 times.
Plenty of balancing issues here ... Not with the tires. With the tech.

I would love to run a 37" tire. I'm built for the size and have enough lift height. I'm just not confidant in the shops around me.
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^^^Ken, you just need Discount Tire, to build a store in your area....

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^^^Then go to 38s, like these........
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Actually i did find a shop. No road force but he did a good job.
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Get nitto the kevlars are two heavy

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I have Toyo mts on my other Jeep in 35" size. They are very heavy tires and I can tell the diff. between them and my last Pro Comp Xtreme mts when I drive. I liked the Pro Comp Xtreme Mts better. The 38s on my other Jeep drives really nice on road with no ill manners.I really haven't taken them off road yet to see how they will do, they do cost about $580.00 per tire in that size! I did find new ones about $200.00 off that price, a guy was selling because he had them left over from his closed off road shop. Here are the MTRKs next to the 35s ( warning- do not look directly at Jeep, you will be forced beyond your will to go out and spend 10s of thousands of dollars!)
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Love the warning however it will probably fall upon deaf ears here.
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Pretty sure the Nittos are heavier than the MTRk's. My local discount tire told me shipping weight for a 37" mtr was 70lbs and 85lbs for a 37" nitto

Nittos and toyos are probably one of heaviest at/mt tires on the market. There built like tanks and I will be trying a set of 37's with my MTR's are done.

I have no complaints so far about the MTR's they work well offroad and on the rocks, road manners aren't bad but c'mon... Were talking about a 7ft tall brick with 37' tires with more sidewall than you can shake a stick at!

And whoever said there Nittos were quite? Give it a few thousand miles, they WILL make some noise at freeway speeds. My MTR's were like humming a baby to sleep, 15k mi later? No top, no doors... No radio!
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Too late!!

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Yup, my warning was to late ! Is that a Watts linkage I see in the rear ?
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I have the MTR Kevlars for my 06 Rubi. They are a little noisy on the road, but off-road they are awesome. The treads stay pretty clean and don't get gunked up badly unless it's really sticky soggy stuff. But then again, if you are in that kind of soup, it don't matter much what kind of tires you got, they will all clog up.

Haven't had any experience with the Grapplers though.
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Yup, my warning was to late ! Is that a Watts linkage I see in the rear ?
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Yup, my warning was to late ! Is that a Watts linkage I see in the rear ?
Yessir. It's a Full Traction CRC link.

Works great!! Especially at high speeds off road... Zero squirly feeling when suspension cycles.
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I've heard a lot about them but, don't know any one who has one. I am watching one being built from scratch at a local shop being built on a full size truck.BTW, my brother lives in Bixby Knowles and my daughter is in Orange.
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..mtr....
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I've heard a lot about them but, don't know any one who has one. I am watching one being built from scratch at a local shop being built on a full size truck.BTW, my brother lives in Bixby Knowles and my daughter is in Orange.
People are getting the runaround over on another forum. FT is not shipping them on time and not responding to the thread.
I can't comment, the few people that have the CRC link like it. I personally would not run it. Too many parts/linkages to fail. I still don't see how the CRC link is much different the running something like MC's or AEV's rear track bar brackets. (higher roll center) ?
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I'm running the 35" MTR's. Aside from road noise they are solid tires. They also like to be rotated a little more often than the Toyo's I had. Can air them down to 10 psi without bead locks and I run them at 27 psi on the road. Stiff ride for sure. For the money they are probably the best you can get.
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You have experience with toyo MTs ? I'm trying to decide between nittos n toyos. Thanks
Yep, best friend has had them on her jeep for 2 years, 13k miles, and I drive her jeep a lot. Compared to my nittos that I had, the toyos are by far a superior tire. Quieter, better on road manners, better in rain, don't have huge warm up periods and have worn very well. Would never get nittos over toyos

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