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Old 02-27-2014, 12:43 PM   #1
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Oil Change interval on 2013.

Well I bought my JKUR and had the dealer do some things to it at 3000 miles. I asked about the oil change when I picked it up. They told me to wait till the light came on. So I waited and waited. I called yesterday and told them I now have 7000 miles on it and no light. Something must be wrong. They told me that the interval is 8 to 10K miles. I scheduled an Early oil change.. I have heard that the new regs are calling for longer intervals but I am very old school performance engine builder. I've seen old "Clean"oils under the microscope' Yuck" and seen the oil analysis reports of acid buildups. I just can't bring myself to go more than my normal 3000 miles. I drive it pretty hard but take good care of my stuff. Any thoughts.

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Manual bases miles of of your driving style. I do 4/5k which seems about the norm.

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Old 02-27-2014, 01:52 PM   #3
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The new systems are really good when it comes to everyday driving. Changing oil every 3000 miles is just plain stupid IMO with todays oils. Don't believe me, send in an oil analysis and see what they have to say. Most any oil today is good for at least double that.

Now with that said I will be doing mine every 5k, only because I will be rotating tires at that time. While its up might as well do oil too. Of course if you wheel it you may want to change the oil more often. And I like to change the oil a couple of time in the first 5K. Not because the oil is bad mind you, just to eliminate any small metal particles.
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Conventional oil at 3000 miles, Synthetic at 5000 miles.
Check your oil level weekly, or at least at gas fill ups..........
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Old 02-27-2014, 03:34 PM   #5
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I say if 3k intervals gives you piece of Mind go for it. I change my'13 at about 4k usually. i have never had the change oil light come on.

If you drive 15k miles/yr that's about $200/year in oil changes assuming $40/change. Cheap piece of mind if it makes you feel better, in my opinion. If you stretch that to 5k intervals you'd save less than $7/month.
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Conventional oil at 3000 miles, Synthetic at 5000 miles.
Check your oil level weekly, or at least at gas fill ups..........
^^ good info here. get in the habit of changing your oil every 3,000 miles. your engine will thank you for it about 80,000 miles from now.
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Old 02-27-2014, 06:02 PM   #7
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I have had my Jeep for maybe 6 months. I'm driving about a 1000 miles a month. I have been on at least 6 or 7 trail runs, and have been 100 mph on the lake beds with it. Twice. 50 + on the smooth parts of the desert trails when the guys get it on. I don't baby this thing. Thats why I worry about the intervals. I guess I will do my normal changes and not worry. Oil Is cheap insurance.
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I have had my Jeep for maybe 6 months. I'm driving about a 1000 miles a month. I have been on at least 6 or 7 trail runs, and have been 100 mph on the lake beds with it. Twice. 50 + on the smooth parts of the desert trails when the guys get it on. I don't baby this thing. Thats why I worry about the intervals. I guess I will do my normal changes and not worry. Oil Is cheap insurance.
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I have heard that the new regs are calling for longer intervals but I am very old school performance engine builder.
In that case change it every 3,000 miles. We have ours changed 4x per year (around every 2,000 miles) but only because the oil, filters and labor to do it all are free at our dealer.
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Taylor the interval to your driving habits. If you fall under severe duty, change it more often. I drive mine for work. A lot of miles and a lot of short trips. I am at the severe end of the scale so despite someone who drives differently thinking it's "stupid", I change mine every 3K.
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I have heard that the system can actually tell when the oil is no longer protecting the engine adequately, and will let you know when it needs to be changed when it senses that it needs changing. It's not based on the odometer like older service lights used to, but rather actual breakdown of the oil. If you drive in extreme conditions or use inferior oil, the system may come on earlier. If you use high quality synthetic and high quality filter and/or drive in less harsh conditions, you may not be notified until 10k miles or more. I've seen several reports of studies that prove 3k changes are outdated in newer vehicles given the tighter tolerances compared to older vehicles. Personally, I'm all for not wasting oil and money changing oil and filters that don't need to be changed. If you feel better changing it every 3k miles, more power to ya though. I feel better knowing I won't be penalized warranty wise by not changing every 3-4k miles. I just hope the new EVIC system actually keeps an internal log of when the oil was changed so I don't have to pay a dealer or shop just so they'll have a record of the service being performed.
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I have heard that the system can actually tell when the oil is no longer protecting the engine adequately, and will let you know when it needs to be changed when it senses that it needs changing. It's not based on the odometer like older service lights used to, but rather actual breakdown of the oil. If you drive in extreme conditions or use inferior oil, the system may come on earlier. If you use high quality synthetic and high quality filter and/or drive in less harsh conditions, you may not be notified until 10k miles or more. I've seen several reports of studies that prove 3k changes are outdated in newer vehicles given the tighter tolerances compared to older vehicles. Personally, I'm all for not wasting oil and money changing oil and filters that don't need to be changed. If you feel better changing it every 3k miles, more power to ya though. I feel better knowing I won't be penalized warranty wise by not changing every 3-4k miles. I just hope the new EVIC system actually keeps an internal log of when the oil was changed so I don't have to pay a dealer or shop just so they'll have a record of the service being performed.
Nope it can not do that. Miles, oil temps and type of driving determine when it is time to change oil. If you drive in dusty conditions you need to change your oil more often.
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Old 02-28-2014, 03:08 PM   #14
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I change mine daily. I'm not taking any chances.


Seriously, another oil change thread?



Does anybody know how to search? I'll bet there are at least a bazillion threads on here with the same BS answers. I get all of my info from the manual....it's the best advice for an idiot like me. There is NO TRUTH on the Internet!
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I have heard that the system can actually tell when the oil is no longer protecting the engine adequately, and will let you know when it needs to be changed when it senses that it needs changing. It's not based on the odometer like older service lights used to, but rather actual breakdown of the oil. If you drive in extreme conditions or use inferior oil, the system may come on earlier. If you use high quality synthetic and high quality filter and/or drive in less harsh conditions, you may not be notified until 10k miles or more. I've seen several reports of studies that prove 3k changes are outdated in newer vehicles given the tighter tolerances compared to older vehicles. Personally, I'm all for not wasting oil and money changing oil and filters that don't need to be changed. If you feel better changing it every 3k miles, more power to ya though. I feel better knowing I won't be penalized warranty wise by not changing every 3-4k miles. I just hope the new EVIC system actually keeps an internal log of when the oil was changed so I don't have to pay a dealer or shop just so they'll have a record of the service being performed.
You need to start listening to different people. Whoever gave you that information is an idiot. The EVIC cannot keep track of your oild changes. All you need to do is keep a simple log or spreadsheet. You do not have to pay someone to change your oil. No one can say there is a specific mileage at which to change your oil. It depends on your individual usuage. That is why the manual states a MAXIMUM mileage at which the oil should be changed. Only your grandma should be changing at the maximum mileage.
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Seriously, another oil change thread?



Does anybody know how to search? I'll bet there are at least a bazillion threads on here with the same BS answers. I get all of my info from the manual....it's the best advice for an idiot like me. There is NO TRUTH on the Internet!
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Go to Bob is the Oil Guy forums and ask this question. You will either wind up with a petroleum engineering degree or a deep, inexplicable fear of words like "ester" and "base stock."
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Go to Bob is the Oil Guy forums and ask this question. You will either wind up with a petroleum engineering degree or a deep, inexplicable fear of words like "ester" and "base stock."
LOL and they'll tell him the person who gave him the info about the Jeep OLM was totally wrong.
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I was told 8k. My LOF is free so I'll have it done at 4k and pay for every other one.
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I was told 8k. My LOF is free so I'll have it done at 4k and pay for every other one.
Wise decision........
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I just don't believe the oil change sensor is anything more than a calculation of engine running time or mileage. I just had Jiffy Lube perform my first oil change at 3000 miles on my 2014 Sahara. The readout at the time said 69% of oil life remaining. 400 miles after the oil change it reads 65% of the oil life remaining. Obviously Jiffy Lube did not reset the mechanism, yet apparently it is not "reading" the oil condition in any manner.
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Don't know why you don't believe it. It takes a oil spectrometer and I have seen a small unit that costs around $5000. In most cases it will cost tens of thousands.
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I just don't believe the oil change sensor is anything more than a calculation of engine running time or mileage.
Pg. 325 of the 2013 owners manual:

Your vehicle is equipped with an engine oil change
indicator system. The “Oil Change Required” message
will flash in the EVIC display for approximately 10 seconds
after a single chime has sounded to indicate the next
scheduled oil change interval. The engine oil change
indicator system is duty cycle based, which means the
engine oil change interval may fluctuate dependent upon
your personal driving style.
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My first change light didn't come on until 7500. Since then it has been every 5000.
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When I bought my Wrangler I also bought the "Lifetime Oil Option". I get my oil changed regularly between 3000 & 4000 miles. It all depends on my schedule and when I will get to Santa Fe.

On my '10, also with the lifetime oil, I used the same schedule. My dealer allows oil changes at anytime when you buy the option unless you choose synthetic. I've had my oil changed with as little as 1200 miles on a change when I'm planning a trip. I've also had it changed around 6000 miles after a long road trip.

I love this option and for $500 and with the frequency I get my oil changed, it's worked out in my favor money wise.
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Pg. 325 of the 2013 owners manual:

Your vehicle is equipped with an engine oil change
indicator system. The “Oil Change Required” message
will flash in the EVIC display for approximately 10 seconds
after a single chime has sounded to indicate the next
scheduled oil change interval. The engine oil change
indicator system is duty cycle based, which means the
engine oil change interval may fluctuate dependent upon
your personal driving style.
Jeff, it seems that is way too complicated for most on this forum. That's why most like a round number like 3,000 or 5,000 miles. lol

I had my brilliant 7 year old son translate it for me into "just change it when it tells you" and I'm sticking with that. (I have a reading comprehension problem.)

I'm really just teasing. If you are honestly confused about when to change your oil, the manual WILL be your best guide. FIAT/CHRYSLER does not want your vehicle to fail. I promise you.

3,000 mile oil changes died along with my grandpa many, many years ago. Per 2013 OM page 566:

"Your vehicle has been built with improved fluids
that protect the performance and durability of your
vehicle and also allow extended maintenance intervals."

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Old 03-04-2014, 11:48 AM   #28
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I just change it when I rotate the tires. Keeps it simple for me.

I used to be a fleet manager (Crown Vics) and we changed the oil @ around 10-12K mile intervals. Never had a wear issue or oil related problem and we ran those puppies hard --- usually to 350-450K miles. But that's every day driving; low miles and short trips hurt an engine more than use.
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On my JK, between 7-8k miles depending on what I've been up to with it. Hell, my land rover gets it every 10-12k. Every oil sample I've ever sent has come back good. If 3k is your boat then go ahead and float it. We all waste money on something with our rigs, I just don't on oil.
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[QUOTE="Hilldweller;8762017"]I just change it when I rotate the tires. Keeps it simple for me.


Yep! To easy this way

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