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Old 03-04-2014, 04:59 PM   #1
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Procal or flashcal

So the lift and tires are on now to determine which programmer to go with if any. I have a manual 2013 JkR. What programmer do you prefer the AEV PROCAL or the SUPERCHIPS FLASHCAL for correcting speedo, TPMS and all that? What benefits does one have over the other? Thanks for your input and opinions!

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2012 JKU I had the procal it worked great. One of the switches broke off. This time I got the Flashcal. I like it better.

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Old 03-04-2014, 05:56 PM   #3
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Can I ask why you like it more? What's better about it to you?
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Can I ask why you like it more? What's better about it to you?
I had the ProCal and it worked perfect for TPMS, DRL, & tire/odometer adjustment, + more, nothing wrong with it. I just recently sold it so I could purchase a flashpaq. Only did this because of the custom tunes ( along with TPMS, tire size adjustment and so on) that the flashpaq provided. Having 4HI lockers was also a bonus for me since I have a Rubi and this would be a bonus for beach driving. Either the ProCal or FlashCal will work for what you're looking for. With you having a Rubi, I would steer towards a FlashCal if you want to enable lockers in 4HI. Just be careful when you do so. Like I said before, I would only use this for the beach. The flashcal is also upgradable via internet. Just learned most of this from a previous thread i posted.
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Can I ask why you like it more? What's better about it to you?
Not that the procal was difficult because it wasn't. But the Flashcal has digital read outs when you program and was just cleaner. Also after you program your jeep if you ever want to check to make sure it's still at the settings you want, just plug it in and it tells you all your settings. With the procal you can't check the settings you really just reprogram to make sure it's there.
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Old 03-04-2014, 08:05 PM   #6
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Good point. May lean towards the flash cal but heard a few reviews that were not positive. Does either allow you to turn off the tpms (for no sensors?)
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If I remember correctly the procal will go to zero so yes. The Flashcal only went to 22 for a low. But there is a free download that was easy and you will get an off-road setting that turns it off.
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Good point. May lean towards the flash cal but heard a few reviews that were not positive. Does either allow you to turn off the tpms (for no sensors?)
What were the negatives with the FlashCal? I haven't received mine yet.
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Just online complaints of updating issues, don't work with Mac, customer service.
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Just online complaints of updating issues, don't work with Mac, customer service.
I'm on windows, hopefully no issues, ordered the latest and greatest 3872. I feel confident with updating firmware/software. Spoke to customer service earlier today with no issues, quite pleasant actually. I should receive mine next week some time.
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Glad to hear it. I may not wait that long to order but let me know how it goes
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I'm on windows, hopefully no issues, ordered the latest and greatest 3872. I feel confident with updating firmware/software. Spoke to customer service earlier today with no issues, quite pleasant actually. I should receive mine next week some time.

I had been planning to order the AEV Procal. After reading this thread, I may just opt for the Flashpaq 3872 instead. The economy and crawl tunings look interesting...and the performance tuning could be fun if I ever decided to go drag racing. I towed a new 8-foot utility trailer home from Grand Junction last week and was surprised at how hard the Jeep seemed to be working...so the tow mode could come in handy too. But to be fair to the Jeep, I had to climb some pretty steep hills and the trailer tailgate/ramp acted like a sail in the heavy winds.

It appears that the 3872 does all the same things that the Flashcal does but adds the tuning options. Is this correct? I originally thought that all I wanted was the ability to resize the tires, but now I'm thinking the other options would be nice, even if I decide not to use them.

The Jeep has less than 4000 miles on it, so I still think I have some time before I run into any problems because of the slightly increased tire size (from 32 to 33). I have a friend who owns a jeep rental business, and EVERY one of his 2012 JK automatics went into limp mode at about 7000 miles. He attributed that to the 33" tire size. He used the Procals on all his vehicles to reset the tire sizes...after he discovered the problems.

Does anyone know if everything can be reset to factory default with the 3872?
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The tuning ability comes with an addition of about $170 I think so be mindful of that
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It appears that the 3872 does all the same things that the Flashcal does but adds the tuning options. Is this correct? I originally thought that all I wanted was the ability to resize the tires, but now I'm thinking the other options would be nice, even if I decide not to use them.
You are correct. I was wondering the same thing. I had previously asked the same question in another thread.

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The tuning ability comes with an addition of about $170 I think so be mindful of that
I'm not sure of the price difference between the flashpaq and flashcal but I paid $287.96 total for the flashpaq 3872 shipped from NorthRidge4x4
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The flash cal is about $150 at same place
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flashcal.

Now you can upgrade the flashcal to a flashpaq for merely the price difference. I bought the flashcal originally and upgraded it to a flashpaq....
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I'm leaning procal only due to non compatability of flash cal to Mac as that's all I got. Would prefer the screen display to verify settings but need a crappy pc lol.
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I'm leaning procal only due to non compatability of flash cal to Mac as that's all I got. Would prefer the screen display to verify settings but need a crappy pc lol.
Parallels or VMWare running a PC install work?
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Parallels or VMWare running a PC install work?
i would never use vmware to flash an eeprom, which is what is going on with the flashcal. If something happens, you could ruin the flashcal.

Cant borow a pc? Get one from rentacenter and take it back in a week. Will probably cost $10.

you really dont "need" a pc other than to update the tool. It's not involved with the process at all.
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I bought a Flashcal for my new 2014 JKURX 3 weeks ago. Tire size worked fine for 35" tires, but TPMS doesn't work. In other words, when I set TPMS to trigger at 26psi, the display in my Jeep doesn't recognize the new pressure setting.

I called Superchips and they opened a ticket (177634) and stated that this is a known problem. BTW, I have a 5 speed auto. I think those with a 6 speed manual are ok, but not sure.

I too am a Mac user. I spoke to SC about running their download app in a VM shell on the Mac and they do not recommend it. So I use my work Windows box. Honestly, it's a PIA IMHO.

I can deal with the Windows nuisance, but I'm disappointed that SC would release a product without testing core advertised functionality. If I had it to do over again, I would buy the Procal.

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Yea I went ahead and ordered procal last night
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i would never use vmware to flash an eeprom, which is what is going on with the flashcal. If something happens, you could ruin the flashcal.

Cant borow a pc? Get one from rentacenter and take it back in a week. Will probably cost $10.

you really dont "need" a pc other than to update the tool. It's not involved with the process at all.
Could you [possibly just use one at the library?
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Could you [possibly just use one at the library?
Too much hassle. I wanna plug it up and get it done.
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Too much hassle. I wanna plug it up and get it done.
The AEV ProCal worked great for me. Set the switches and plug in. I don't think you'll have any issues with it. I don't mind the updates that the Flashpaq/Flashcal requires as I'm used to software and firmware upgrades on our equipment at the office. I welcome software/firmware updates for equipment because they have historically been for the better. Knock on wood, I haven't bricked anything yet. Especially because I'll be updating the tune with the Flashpaq.
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Procal came today and in about 5 mins my settings were all done. Great purchase.
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Procal came today and in about 5 mins my settings were all done. Great purchase.
Good Choice! I should have kept mine. Having issues with the Flashpaq.

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I've given up on the Flashcal. This thing is flakey.

I disabled the TPMS system until the outstanding ticket is resolved and now this function has disappeared from the device. So I can't turn TPMS back on.

I'm going to sell the Flashcal, take the loss, and buy a Procal. Screw it, I don't have any more patience.
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I've given up on the Flashcal. This thing is flakey.

I disabled the TPMS system until the outstanding ticket is resolved and now this function has disappeared from the device. So I can't turn TPMS back on.

I'm going to sell the Flashcal, take the loss, and buy a Procal. Screw it, I don't have any more patience.
I'll be ordering a flashcal to replace the flashpaq since the tunes didn't work for me. The tuning part is what i had issues with. I'm not worried about the flakeyness of it since i didn't really have problems with the basic programming and superchips support has been great. And there will also be future firmware upgrades to the unit. They are easy to get a hold of and very helpful. The vendor, Northridge 4x4 has also been very helpful. The only reason for the flashcal vs the procal is the visual aspect of the programming.
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It may not be exactly the same, but I ran UpRev on my Titan, which is a custom mapped tuning software that is only for Windows. I ran Parallels on my Mac and it ran flawlessly. I could hook it up to the OBDII port for datalogs and custom tuning on the fly. Personally, I'd feel safe running Parallels to update the Flashcal.

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