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Old 06-24-2014, 04:57 PM   #1
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RedRock 4X4 Hinged Tire Carrier Install write-up

I was interested in this product because of the price. From extremeterrain.com, a forum sponsor, it's $299.99 for the hinge where you reuse the stock carrier. It would probably work for all 33s and most 35s. The other version is $399.99 and has a welded on carrier that they claim will fit tires up to 42". I received the $399.99 kit and here's the box and what's included:
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Old 06-24-2014, 05:01 PM   #2
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The coating on the parts is pretty thin and chipping off at the edges. I bought a can of Rustoleum Truck Bed Liner and sprayed all the coated parts before install. The can was about $7 at Lowes.
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In the box is two pages of instructions with color pictures. Step 1 in the instructions is: "Remove the rear wheel, then pull the hinge covers off by unsnapping them from the hinge assembly." That looks like this:
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Step 2 is: "Remove the (8) 10mm bolts holding the tire carrier to the rear of the vehicle." You will also need to disconnect the wiring harness for the 3rd brake light before doing this. After removing the carrier, remove the bumpstops as well.

Step 3: "Remove the (4) 10mm bolts holding the hinge to the rear door, then remove the (6) T-50 torx bolts holding the hinge to the body of the Jeep." In hindsight, I would shim the bottom of the tailgate before removing the hinges. It will make alignment easier later.
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Step 4: "Install the replacement hinge hardware to the factory mounting points using the factory hardware." Don't torque these down all the way. You will need to adjust them later.
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Step 5: "Mount the new tire carrier to the hinges using the supplied 21mm mounting bolts and 22mm nuts to hold it in position." In the initial installation, i followed this instruction. The problem is that the bolts are too short and the nylon in two of the locking nuts doesn't engage. The spacing between the carrier and the hinges is different top and bottom. After the install, I realized the tailgate was very stiff to open/close because I had tightened them so much. I replaced the bolts with some grade 8 bolts from Lowes-four 9/16-12x2". The originals are 1.5" I also bought some grade 8 washers for spacers on the hinges-twelve 9/16 washers. I reused the nylock nuts. At this point it the install, do not tighten these nuts/bolts all the way. Here is the original picture from the install and a picture from after I replaced the bolts.
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Step 6: "Using the long 10mm bolts supplied with this mount, slide them through the carrier and through the supplied spacers to bolt it to the rear door. Note, the longer spacers will be used closer to the hinge for proper fitment." This step will be obvious when you see it. Don't tighten them up all the way, yet.
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Step 7: "Bolt the rest of the tire carrier to the rear door using the (8) 10mm supplied bolts. The mount will reuse all factory mounting points." You will have to go back and forth tightening each bolt, but make sure all are started before you torque them down all the way. There isn't much play when you are lining up 12 bolt holes.
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Step 8: "Align the door and tighten all bolts down to ensure they are tight to the vehicle." This is where you will tighten everything you've left loose. The carrier should be torqued down to the tailgate. Now you will have to adjust the hinges so that the bolts through them are straight and not canted. Tighten down the hinges. Now you can tighten the bolts through the hinges. What i did was tighten, then check if the door was difficult to move, then adjust. They are Nylock nuts and won't back off without tools.

Step 9: "Mount the third brake light bracket to the tire mount using the supplied 10mm bolts and nuts."
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Step 10: "Using the factory hardware, mount the brake light to the new bracket and route the wires into the door using the factory grommet and wiring harness."
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That's it. Mount your spare to the carrier and off you go. Like
I said, I bought $13 worth of bolts and washers and a $7 can of bed liner for a total of around $420. It feels very solid when opening and closing the tailgate. There aren't any rattles and I've had it on for almost two months. I've taken it on trails in the Corral Hollow/Slickrock area of the Sierra Nevadas and haven't had any problems with it loosening or rattling. For the money, it seems to be a good alternative to higher priced hinged carriers. Here it is completed and with a 35" on it after my lift:
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Old 06-24-2014, 06:45 PM   #13
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Looks really good, thanks for the great write up!
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Great write up
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Old 06-25-2014, 12:47 AM   #15
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Thanks. After installing my Bushwacker flat fenders, I know how helpful a good write - up can be.
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Excellent write up.

Not to rain on your thread. I would have spent the extra $300 on the Teraflex. Night and day difference. If you didn't have the money you could have bought the HD hinge and waited on the carrier. In the long run you would have been a lot better off. Like I said not wanting to rain on your thread.

Good write up though.....and nice Jeep.
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This is one of those price issue for me too. The more I think about it it's priced well almost perfectly if your not looking to replace the stock bumper too. But, if you are then your in the same neighborhood on a bumper and tire carrier set. This is much less weight though and there are other advantages. It's a hard decision.
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Excellent write up.

Not to rain on your thread. I would have spent the extra $300 on the Teraflex. Night and day difference. If you didn't have the money you could have bought the HD hinge and waited on the carrier. In the long run you would have been a lot better off. Like I said not wanting to rain on your thread.

Good write up though.....and nice Jeep.
You've installed and used both?
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You've installed and used both?
Have I installed and used both? Nice question....

I'm not looking for a fight partner. I can see by your pictures the hinge and carrier isn't anywhere near the quality and engineering of Teraflex.

The Teraflex hinge/carrier IMO is a MUCH BETTER VALUE. Sorry you didn't think it through well enough.

Since you've called me out I will say this. I wouldn't use a RedRock hinge and carrier if it were free.
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I'm with XZY with out the adjustment that lets you pull the tire close to the body I would be worried about all that extra weight leveraging off the back. We've seen what a few improperly setup Teraflex carriers have done when the tire wasn't snug and they are way more robust than this one.
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Have I installed and used both? Nice question....

I'm not looking for a fight partner. I can see by your pictures the hinge and carrier isn't anywhere near the quality and engineering of Teraflex.

The Teraflex hinge/carrier IMO is a MUCH BETTER VALUE. Sorry you didn't think it through well enough.

Since you've called me out I will say this. I wouldn't use a RedRock hinge and carrier if it were free.
I'm not looking for a fight, either. You said it was a "night and day difference" between the two and I would be "better off in the long run" going with the Teraflex. I was surprised to see that someone had experience with both since that would be the only way to know those things. I was truly interested in your experience. By the way, I was sent this product to install, use and review at no cost to me. You can dismount your condescending high horse because this review is not skewed by trying to justify a purchase. I haven't tried to compare it to any other product since I don't have the experience to do that. In order to keep this forum helpful to others, you should do the same.
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Look friend....no condescending attitude here. I didn't catch the disclosure that you didn't actually purchase the product. Thanks for clearing that up.

I don't need to put a RedRock on my Jeep to compare. You did an excellent job with your review. The pictures are very good. Because of that I can see the product is in a different class than Teraflex. IMO Teraflex is a BETTER VALUE even though it cost more.

You might want to get a Teraflex to review in order to make your own comparison.

I'm done....take care.
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Nice write up. Thank you.
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Update: I've had it on for five months and about 8K miles now. I ran into one issue. When tightening the pivot bolts on the hinges, I went just tight enough that they didn't make it more difficult to close. After about six weeks I heard a rattle and they had loosened up a little bit. I guess I could fix that with some loctite, but I'm already using nylon lock nuts. I tightened them a little more than the first time so that it took more force to close it. They didn't loosen, but I got tired of the extra effort, especially uphill with that big, heavy spare. I sprayed the hinge with some Liquid Wrench Silicone spray about two months ago. It swings as easy as it did stock and hasn't loosened up at all.
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Excellent write up. Thank you...very helpful. I've been researching these over the past few days and just saw your update. Seems like it's a good value.
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Great write up! Glad to find out that the one with the mount is welded on. I was originally just going to get the one where you reuse your stock mount and if I went bigger than 35s down the road just see if I could order that mount.

How is it holding up now? I'm looking in to this same carrier.
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How is it holding up now?
No change since the last update in November. It's still working great.
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There are now a few different alternatives to the Teraflex hinge/carrier. I believe Smitybilt and Rugged Ridge both have one now.

Good review with pics from OP, BUT I think it is very important (in fact should be mandatory/policy IMO) going forward that a disclaimer is included within the original review when a product was received at no charge in exchange for a review (not mentioned in later posts in passing). Either way thanks for the update.
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There are now a few different alternatives to the Teraflex hinge/carrier. I believe Smitybilt and Rugged Ridge both have one now.

Good review with pics from OP, BUT I think it is very important (in fact should be mandatory/policy IMO) going forward that a disclaimer is included within the original review when a product was received at no charge in exchange for a review (not mentioned in later posts in passing). Either way thanks for the update.
Why does it matter if I paid for it or received it to review.

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