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Old 12-17-2013, 11:39 AM   #1
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Replacing stock Rubi Tires

From what I've read there is not a direct tire size replacement for Dura Trac tires for the Rubicon. What size Dura Trac tire do you use to replace a stock Rubicon tire? Will it fit on the stock wheel? Does that Dura Trac size difference impact the speedometer?

I tried the search function with little luck. Thanks!

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Old 12-17-2013, 01:51 PM   #2
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Go to tire rack, or discount tire website, and they both have a tire size calculator.

I am going to run out my Stock Rubicon tires for at least 3 years. The heat here in Arizona really does a number on tires, so for safety, I change mine out about every three years.

When it's time, I am going with the Dura-Tracs also. 285x70Rx17s. They should be close in size, because even though we are going from 255, to 285, the side wall is being down sized from 75R, TO 70R.
They will fit onto the stock Rubicon wheels just fine, with little to no impact on the speedometer.

The only negative, that I have heard from some with the stock wheels is that on tight turns, they may slightly rub, but other say no. So either way, I am going with that setup......

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While mine is a sport, I just put 265/70/17 duratracs on. I like them.
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Old 12-17-2013, 03:35 PM   #4
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Thanks guys. I checked Tire Rack to see if they had a listing for the Wrangler and I couldn't find one, but I didn't spend much time digging over there, and decided to ask here.
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I put on 285/70/17 goodyear silent armors and no rubbing at all.
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265/70/17's will be about 1/4" shorter than the stock tires and about the same width. 285/70/17's will be about 1/4" taller and about 1/2" wider.

In other words after about 10,000 miles on any of them the height difference will pretty much even out.
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265/70/17's will be about 1/4" shorter than the stock tires and about the same width. 285/70/17's will be about 1/4" taller and about 1/2" wider.

In other words after about 10,000 miles on any of them the height difference will pretty much even out.
Thanks! Will the 285/70/17's rub on an all stock vehicle?
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Thanks! Will the 285/70/17's rub on an all stock vehicle?
they did on my 2014 jkur. they rubbed slightly on the sway bar. I added spidertrax 1.5" spacers to cure the rub.
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they did on my 2014 jkur. they rubbed slightly on the sway bar. I added spidertrax 1.5" spacers to cure the rub.

Thanks, I never used wheel spacers. Your problem was with the front wheels rubbing. Do you use them on the front as well as the rear, so that the front wheels and rear wheels are spaced exactly the same with regard to the front and rear axle? In my mind if you don't there might be some small driveability issues. Then again seeing they're sold in pairs is what is confusing me.

Forgive the newbie question, I'm good with engines, and transmissions, this is new to me. LOL
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Thanks, I never used wheel spacers. Your problem was with the front wheels rubbing. Do you use them on the front as well as the rear, so that the front wheels and rear wheels are spaced exactly the same with regard to the front and rear axle? In my mind if you don't there might be some small driveability issues. Then again seeing they're sold in pairs is what is confusing me.

Forgive the newbie question, I'm good with engines, and transmissions, this is new to me. LOL
yes it is the front tires but spacers used on all 4 hubs. Everybody has their own taste but I like how the widen the stance a bit but still keep the rubber inside the flares.
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My 285/70 Duratrac's rub as well. Spacers on the way.
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yes it is the front tires but spacers used on all 4 hubs. Everybody has their own taste but I like how the widen the stance a bit but still keep the rubber inside the flares.
Thanks, I don't like the idea of spacing the wheels on one of axle. I gave it some thought, it shouldn't have an effect on how it drives, but I'd be able to see it. I'd space all 4 hubs.

BTW-Nice looking Rubi!
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Some use wheel spacers, and never have any problems, but I don't trust them Safety wise.
I do a lot of high speed mountain driving, and would never feel safe with them.....
So my solution is stay with the stock wheels, or purchase different wheels with added backspacing.

If you believe in using spacers, then make sure that you keep them torqued and maybe even use lock tight on the threads.

Good Luck and stay safe!
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Some use wheel spacers, and never have any problems, but I don't trust them Safety wise.
I do a lot of high speed mountain driving, and would never feel safe with them.....
So my solution is stay with the stock wheels, or purchase different wheels with added backspacing.

If you believe in using spacers, then make sure that you keep them torqued and maybe even use lock tight on the threads.

Good Luck and stay safe!
Spidertrax and other quality spacers do not cause an issue and they come with red loc tite and proper instructions on torqueing. On the jk forum one person works in a destructive testing lab and found the stock wheels failed before the spacers and the stock wheels are well made. Old style spacers are a different story but Spidertrax and BORA when installed per the manufacturers are not an issue. Many highspeed off road racers put them to the test.
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Spidertrax and other quality spacers do not cause an issue and they come with red loc tite and proper instructions on torqueing. On the jk forum one person works in a destructive testing lab and found the stock wheels failed before the spacers and the stock wheels are well made. Old style spacers are a different story but Spidertrax and BORA when installed per the manufacturers are not an issue. Many highspeed off road racers put them to the test.
Thank you Sir, for the update!
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265/70/17's will be about 1/4" shorter than the stock tires and about the same width. 285/70/17's will be about 1/4" taller and about 1/2" wider.

In other words after about 10,000 miles on any of them the height difference will pretty much even out.
If stock is 255 going to a 285 will gain just over an inch in width. 1 inch = 25.4 mm.

Just saying' . . .

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Anyone know of a tire that is very similar to the Dura Trac and is the exact same size as a stock Rubicon tire?
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Anyone know of a tire that is very similar to the Dura Trac and is the exact same size as a stock Rubicon tire?
That's something I'd like to know too.
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Old 12-21-2013, 05:43 AM   #19
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Anyone know of a tire that is very similar to the Dura Trac and is the exact same size as a stock Rubicon tire?
I would call my local Discount Tire Dealer and ask them that question, because they are the most qualified to answer you accurately.......
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I would call my local Discount Tire Dealer and ask them that question, because they are the most qualified to answer you accurately.......
Good idea! I'll probably go that route, I was hoping one of our resident experts would know. Thanks!
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The 285/70-17 Duratracs are 32.8" tall and 11.5" wide, the OE BFG MT's are 32.1" tall and 10" wide. I would worry with the 285's that they would rub on the front brake lines. If you turn your wheels all the way left and put your hand behind the driver's front tire, you'll notice on the stock setup that the tire is barely missing the brake line...

A guaranteed fit on stock setup for a Duratrac is the 265/70-17 (10.7" wide and 31.7" tall), which Tire Rack has in stock. The 285/70-17 Duratrac is not recommended without a bit of a lift or a bit lower offset/backspacing. If you need any more help, feel free to PM me!
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The 285/70-17 Duratracs are 32.8" tall and 11.5" wide, the OE BFG MT's are 32.1" tall and 10" wide. I would worry with the 285's that they would rub on the front brake lines. If you turn your wheels all the way left and put your hand behind the driver's front tire, you'll notice on the stock setup that the tire is barely missing the brake line...

A guaranteed fit on stock setup for a Duratrac is the 265/70-17 (10.7" wide and 31.7" tall), which Tire Rack has in stock. The 285/70-17 Duratrac is not recommended without a bit of a lift or a bit lower offset/backspacing. If you need any more help, feel free to PM me!
Thanks for the information!
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agree with the 265 sized Duratrac, I put them on for winter use, looked at the larger sizes and backspacing and one of those folks who do not want to add another element of potential failure...when a vendor recommends periodic torque of the nuts and inspection well it just does not give a warm fuzzy.
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agree with the 265 sized Duratrac, I put them on for winter use, looked at the larger sizes and backspacing and one of those folks who do not want to add another element of potential failure...when a vendor recommends periodic torque of the nuts and inspection well it just does not give a warm fuzzy.
Same, not ready to change my JKU besides minor parts like floor mats I am running 265/70 R17 Duratracks and they are very good on dry or snow.
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agree with the 265 sized Duratrac, I put them on for winter use, looked at the larger sizes and backspacing and one of those folks who do not want to add another element of potential failure...when a vendor recommends periodic torque of the nuts and inspection well it just does not give a warm fuzzy.
kind of like all suspension companies do Heck you are even supposed to check stock lug nuts from time to time.

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