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Old 11-21-2013, 08:09 AM   #1
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Rock Krawler's New 1.5 Kits

I am looking at least going with a 1.5 Max Travel but the 1.5 X Factor is what I am really leaning towards right now.
I see that on the 1.5 XF they have a "weld on" spring seat where the 2.5 and 3.5 XF has wedges. I am trying to avoid cutting off or welding anything on my rig right now. Any idea on why they used a weld on for the 1.5 and not the larger lifts?

Right now I am running a TF 1.5 Performance level kit now (2"F 1"R) with stock Rubicon shocks. Will changing out the control arms make a real difference with just 1.5" lift? I am looking for the max flex possible out of a LCOG build also to avoid any driveline issues on my 2D. (plus the wife will not notice if I stay with 1.5" of lift) I will also be changing the shocks to either 5100s or Fox 2.0 to match up with the 1.5 kit.

Their site show availability in Dec but I see some popping up for sale now. Any insight from our vendors on availability for Black Friday or Cyber Monday?

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Give us a shout if you have any questions. We can go over the "why's" of how the systems are laid out for you and help you pick the right product for your build..

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I like the 1.5" on a 2 door. Perfect height wise which should avoid any DS issues.
I waiting patiently for the new TR 2.5's
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Old 11-21-2013, 08:59 AM   #4
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Im getting this one as soon as my cards paid down http://www.rockkrawler.com/ProductDe...tCode=RKJK15MT

And i live but 2 hours from RK so im just gonna go pick it up! Lol
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Old 11-21-2013, 09:40 AM   #5
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Ya, thats the Max Travel kit. I may go that route too if the X Factor requires too much modification to work. I will have to call them to get that information I guess. They are just about two hours from me as well but most vendors will ship for free and those NY taxes add up.
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Ya, thats the Max Travel kit. I may go that route too if the X Factor requires too much modification to work. I will have to call them to get that information I guess. They are just about two hours from me as well but most vendors will ship for free and those NY taxes add up.
Forgot about having to pay taxes in ny.... Lol thanks for the save!
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If you are out of state, you do not pay taxes. LOLů

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Old 11-21-2013, 04:43 PM   #9
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If you are out of state, you do not pay taxes. LOL… RK
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Old 12-09-2013, 09:36 PM   #10
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I understand the reasoning behind the setup of these kits and do plan on eventually having the full system but have a quick question. I plan to start slow and just start with the coils, shocks without the CA's. What else would be needed? Extended sway bar links? I have a 2 dr by the way.
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This Rock Krawler 1.5 lift should not have us to replace driveshafts?
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Old 04-04-2014, 01:52 AM   #12
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This Rock Krawler 1.5 lift should not have us to replace driveshafts?

? x2.

I just installed the 2.5 X-Factor on my wife's Jeep and bought new F/R driveshafts for it but would like to stay with my stock driveshafts on mine- both of ours are 2-door.

With the 1.5" will we need to replace driveshafts? If so, I'll just get another 2.5 kit for mine.
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Did you two read the lift thread I posted? 1.5 will give 2.5 on a 2 door. Don't try and run up caster on the front axle. If control arms included keep caster stock or a little under. Front will depend on how much travel in the front axle. Lift height alone, they should both should last a good amount of time. The rear is a crap shoot. Just keep a eye on them.'i wouldn't run out a buy driveshafts unless the CV splits and looses grease. You're good
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Did you two read the lift thread I posted? 1.5 will give 2.5 on a 2 door. Don't try and run up caster on the front axle. If control arms included keep caster stock or a little under. Front will depend on how much travel in the front axle. Lift height alone, they should both should last a good amount of time. The rear is a crap shoot. Just keep a eye on them.'i wouldn't run out a buy driveshafts unless the CV splits and looses grease. You're good
I appreciate your feedback and did read this thread in its entirety but was looking for RK to provide some feedback/recommendation based on their experience since they commented earlier. I can tell you that even with the FSB connected on our 2.5 RK (really 3.5-4") and recommended Bilstein 5100, the slip joint boot on the front driveshaft will contact the exhaust crossover pipe on a 2012+ 2 door and at the more severe angle I don't see the OE driveshaft rzeppas lasting long but am monitoring on that Jeep......just was not sure if the 1" reduction in lift would make these things favorable enough to keep OE driveshafts.
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Rugged ridge makes an exhaust re-location kit for lifts of 2.5" or greater. It prevents the driveshaft from rubbing on the exhaust.
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Appreciate the suggestion, Using Evo skid plates so exhaust spacers are out and with 2 doors the crossover pipe cannot be relocated (at least on 2012+, I'm not familiar with earlier). The other issue with spacers is if you have enough down travel, and the RK might with the 5100s, it will still rub. I initially was going that way with my wife's '12 and just went ahead and upgraded her lift with adjustable uppers and driveshafts- not yet installed but soon, kind of curious how long the OEs will last.
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Absolutely. 3-4" is a lot on the driveshafts. The rear is fixable with arms. Front is a balance caster/pinion. 1.5 = 2.5 on a 2 door. The shafts should last you angle wise. Obviously running a longer shock risks contact with the exhaust . Install a spacer , reroute the exhaust, run a smaller diameter DS or limit straps, Options listed in the thread I posted. It really is a crap shoot on shaft life. I'm still running my stock rear with stock arms. It's been well over 20k. Other I've seem fail rather quickly.

Fwiw ... RK was not officially a vender here at the time of the post. They signed up to help with a joint issue a member had. Pure performance -----which i believe is the main company's name --signed up recently. I have not seen them post yet.
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Rock Krawler is officially a vender on WF.
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That is correct. We are here to help...

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I've put a couple pics on my page before and after RK 1.5 X-factor install. It's still at the shop so haven't driven it yet. JK 2DR. If it helps anyone considering the lift.
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Here is my recently installed 1.5 Max Travel. Also added Fox 2.0 shocks, Fuel wheels and Goodyear MTRs 285/70/17. Looks and rides great.
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Here is my recently installed 1.5 Max Travel. Also added Fox 2.0 shocks, Fuel wheels and Goodyear MTRs 285/70/17. Looks and rides great.
Looking good
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Here is my recently installed 1.5 Max Travel. Also added Fox 2.0 shocks, Fuel wheels and Goodyear MTRs 285/70/17. Looks and rides great.
Yep, I do like the look. Well done.
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I'm unhappy with the wedges on my 3.5 X-Factor. Do the seats move the bottom of the spring mounts forward?

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I'm unhappy with the wedges on my 3.5 X-Factor. Do the seats move the bottom of the spring mounts forward?
There's only so much they can do. Are your control arms set correctly ? Too far back and/or too much pinion angle will now the coil.
You should look at relocating the perches.
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There's only so much they can do. Are your control arms set correctly ? Too far back and/or too much pinion angle will now the coil.
You should look at relocating the perches.
The arms are set by RK specs and verified by a 4x4 shop.

Perches sound like a good option, but I don't see anyplace that RK sells them. It don't look right. The wedge they use doesn't seem to be a good solution. You're changing the angle of the spring to prevent bowing, but your only changing the angle on one side of the spring, so bowing makes since. I think RK should dump the wedge and go with a proper correction.

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