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Old 08-15-2014, 01:58 PM   #1
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JK Lift and Wheel/Tire Questions

Some questions for everyone.

I have a 2010 Wrangler Rubicon Unlimited. Im bone stock except for ace rails and 1.5 synergy wheel spacers but Im in need of new tires soon. If Im going to buy tires, Im going to go big and get my lift done as well sooo.

Im thinking of getting the XD Hoss, 17x9 in a 4.5" backspace and -12 offset,
1. where is the cheapest to get these? Is it worth getting tires/wheels from the same website or better to shop around?
2. What tire/size should I get (I'm looking at 35s, what would work best with a 2.5 TF or 3.5 RE lift)?
3. Would I keep my current spacers with this wheel? Anyone have pics of this setup?
4. What tires are others running/recommending?

Im strongly considering the Teraflex 1251000 Suspension 2.5 lift OR the Rubicon Express 3.5 Inch Standard Coil Lift Kit with Mono Tube Shocks.
1. Thoughts? Can I complete these in my garage over a weekend with basic tools?
2. The 1251000 has a better price point, and looks easier to install.
3. Any pros/cons? Is the RE better despite costing more?
4. If I do opt for the 125100 TeraFlex lift, would I also run the 1155200 Teraflex leveling kit? Would I gain additional clearance with BOTH or are these kits redundant?
5. Im also under the assumption for the 35s Id need a new tire carrier and/or bumper for the rear? Is that true?

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Old 08-15-2014, 03:16 PM   #2
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I can only respond to a select few of your questions with any intelligence or experience.

A 17 x 9 wheel with 4.5" back spacing is a typical wheel size for running 35s. With this wheel, you will not need to run your wheel spacers. Doing so would make the tires stick out past the fender flares by 2 to 3" and would greatly increase the stress on your hubs.

As far as lift kits, a 2.5" kit should give you plenty of clearance for 35s. Keep in mind that the higher you go, the more parts required to maintain proper suspension and steering geometry and the quicker you will wear out certain parts. If you don't need the 3.5" lift for off road articulation, I would stick with 2.5, plus this will keep your center of gravity lower giving you better on road manners and stability.

As far as combining the lift with a leveling kit, most lift kits actually give you a bit more lift in the front than the rear, giving you a more level stance. I'm not familiar with what the leveling kit you referenced consists of, but if it is just pucks for the front, you could most likely run it with the lift kit, but again you probably won't need to.

My profile pic shows mine with a 2.5" RK lift and 315/70 R17 tires on 9" wide rims with 4.5" backspacing. I know it's a small pic, but I can't add any from where I'm at now.

Hope this is helpful even if I couldn't address all of your concerns.

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Old 08-15-2014, 03:48 PM   #3
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first off why are running 1.5" wheel spacers if you are bone stock?

ircc 4.5" of backspace is the same as -12mm offset.

"thinking of getting the XD Hoss"
1. try discount tire.
2. with 35's you might need to cut/trim your fenders or run flat fenders
3. no your tires would stick out way past the fender
4. i run 37X13.5xr17 toyo mts on 17x9 XD addicts

"teraflex 1251000 Suspension 2.5 lift OR the Rubicon Express 3.5"

i don't know much about RE but teraflex is a good solid brand. i run a rock krawler 3.5 max travel

1.yes depending on your wrenching ability
2.?
3. which kit is more complete
4. if you go for a lift kit you don't need the leveling kit, the lift will take care of the rake. it would be redundant
5. yes you will end up messing up the tailgate.

remember also that when you go up you need to look at extending your diff/tranny breathers, BRAKE lines. with 2.5 your driveshaft should be OK but you want to upgrade them if you 3.5+. i still run my stock ones for now but they are on the short list for my next upgrade.

you will also want to think about beefing up your front axle. truss or sleeve, gusset the C's at a min. ball joints maybe even knuckles.

and with that 3.8 don't forget about doing a re-gear at some point.

hoe my ramble helps....

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Dpistorm, Luis from the jeep meet works at Performance plus in Long Beach, and I have my own connections at Salinas Tires in La Habra (Monte Vista St). Salinas offers no tax if you pay cash and they are reasonable on installs. $500 for lift/geometry correction/alignment.
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Btw teraflex and RE has the same coil manufacturer (betts springs), but RE comes with better shocks if you get the monotubes (rebranded/retuned bilstein 5100's)
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I would take any TF lift kit over RE.

Read some of the threads regarding the advantages of 2.5" lift kits and then decide if you want to go higher.

The lift kit should get rid of rake so you do not need both the leveling kit and the lift kit.

The 35" spare will destroy your tailgate, so a tire carrier is highly advisable. Some of them will install on your stock rear bumper.
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I went to rebel off road on Friday and am now considering the 3" teraflex. Hmmm.
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first off why are running 1.5" wheel spacers if you are bone stock? ircc 4.5" of backspace is the same as -12mm offset. "thinking of getting the XD Hoss" 1. try discount tire. 2. with 35's you might need to cut/trim your fenders or run flat fenders 3. no your tires would stick out way past the fender 4. i run 37X13.5xr17 toyo mts on 17x9 XD addicts "teraflex 1251000 Suspension 2.5 lift OR the Rubicon Express 3.5" i don't know much about RE but teraflex is a good solid brand. i run a rock krawler 3.5 max travel 1.yes depending on your wrenching ability 2.? 3. which kit is more complete 4. if you go for a lift kit you don't need the leveling kit, the lift will take care of the rake. it would be redundant 5. yes you will end up messing up the tailgate. remember also that when you go up you need to look at extending your diff/tranny breathers, BRAKE lines. with 2.5 your driveshaft should be OK but you want to upgrade them if you 3.5+. i still run my stock ones for now but they are on the short list for my next upgrade. you will also want to think about beefing up your front axle. truss or sleeve, gusset the C's at a min. ball joints maybe even knuckles. and with that 3.8 don't forget about doing a re-gear at some point. hoe my ramble helps.... M
The spacers helped with the handling believe it or not. I can tell a huge difference on the turns. Additionally it game the rubicon a meaner look
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I went to rebel off road on Friday and am now considering the 3" teraflex. Hmmm.
It doesn't surprise me that you came out of there thinking about going with a Teraflex lift...haha
Just about everyone that has a Rebel built Jeep gets a teraflex kit installed, I wonder if it is because it's a good product or because they get it at a good price?
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It doesn't surprise me that you came out of there thinking about going with a Teraflex lift...haha
Just about everyone that has a Rebel built Jeep gets a teraflex kit installed, I wonder if it is because it's a good product or because they get it at a good price?
It's a fantastic product - but pay more attention to our builds. You'll see Rock Krawler, Metal Cloak, Synergy, AEV, Currie, Total Chaos Fab, etc etc.
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It doesn't surprise me that you came out of there thinking about going with a Teraflex lift...haha Just about everyone that has a Rebel built Jeep gets a teraflex kit installed, I wonder if it is because it's a good product or because they get it at a good price?
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