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Old 03-30-2014, 10:36 PM   #1
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spare tire mounting...

Hey guys, fairly new here. I'm running very little sleep here so I apologize if this has been discussed. I am considering buying the Rustys Spare tire adapter to fit my 35x12.50 wheel/tire. The site says it'll fit up to 37s on there, my question is this: is that too much weight on the stock tailgate? I have heard it is and I've heard it's not an issue...thanks for the help guys. I'm loving the crap out of this forum so far.

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Old 03-30-2014, 11:23 PM   #2
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Any extra weight on the tail gate that is not supported by the bumper is bad news. It's just a matter of time before damage occurs.

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Old 03-31-2014, 07:27 AM   #3
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Any extra weight on the tail gate that is not supported by the bumper is bad news. It's just a matter of time before damage occurs.
So all these companies sell this product knowing that it will cause damage? Seems fishy. Lol. If I do use one it will just be for awhile, while I pick out the rear bumper / tire carrier I want...
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Take a look at the Maximus-3 Carrier. Completly removes the weight off of the tail gate and doesn't need a new bumper.
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Take a look at the Maximus-3 Carrier. Completly removes the weight off of the tail gate and doesn't need a new bumper.
Definitely interested. Need pricing. Looks like I might be better off buying a full bump/carrier set up tho...I can't imagine that setup being less than 250-300...
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The Maximus 3 carrier doesnt appear available yet
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The Maximus 3 carrier doesnt appear available yet
Yeah, I shot an email off to them, I'll post their response.
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Old 03-31-2014, 11:15 AM   #8
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I got the Teraflex hinge and carrier and have been quite happy with it. A much beffier hinge that doesn't freely swing open, takes the tire weight off the sheet metal and puts it on the hinge, and I only have one thing to swing open when opening the back.
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I got the Teraflex hinge and carrier and have been quite happy with it. A much beffier hinge that doesn't freely swing open, takes the tire weight off the sheet metal and puts it on the hinge, and I only have one thing to swing open when opening the back.
Recommendation on best place to pick one up?

Like I said before, if they're too pricy, ill just wait for a bumper w/ carrier...

Thanks for the info guys!
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It seems like the best price currently has been had from 4WD.com
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Old 03-31-2014, 01:29 PM   #11
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It seems like the best price currently has been had from 4WD.com
I don't see myself spending that much on a bracket when I could buy a bumper w/ tire carrier for a couple hundred more...
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I got the Teraflex hinge and carrier and have been quite happy with it. A much beffier hinge that doesn't freely swing open, takes the tire weight off the sheet metal and puts it on the hinge, and I only have one thing to swing open when opening the back.
I just went with this option. I didn't want to change my rear bumper. I stand on the rear tire a lot to get on my roof rack so it needs to support a lot of weight and accommodate a larger tire in the future. It's a great solution but may not be for everyone due to the price. It's probably less than a lot of quality tire carriers and it doesn't have a separate swing arm. There are some forum sponsors here that might sell it.
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Old 04-01-2014, 06:41 AM   #13
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I got mine at Northridge 2 months ago. At the time, it was the best price, considering no shopping costs, no tax, and the forum discount.
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This is how I solved the weight problem! Cost me about $7.00 and 30 minutes to drill!
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This is how I solved the weight problem! Cost me about $7.00 and 30 minutes to drill!
Can u elaborate...doesn't show much...
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Can u elaborate...doesn't show much...
+1...That pic does not help at all.
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+1...That pic does not help at all.
Lol... Ok I'm not crazy. Well, at least in that respect I'm not :-)
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There appears to be a caster wheel bolted to the top of the hitch that the tire is resting on
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There appears to be a caster wheel bolted to the top of the hitch that the tire is resting on
That's right I got a heavy duty stationary caster and mounted it to the slide in hitch! As you open or close the tailgate the wheel rolls supporting the spare. Using smaller or larger wheels you can adjust to your liking. Hope this helps! BTW I first used the blue caster to experiment with I have since gone all black and it is barely visible!
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Ok...while I commend the creativity and even the execution...I am NOT putting a caster on my hitch which holds up my tire...lol. Very bandaid solution. Not trying to knock it, just not willing to sacrifice quality in order to save money...
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Pick up the teraflex carrier/hinge assembly. You may say for a couple hundred bucks you can get a bumper tire carrier assembly. In reality you can't, at least not one that opens and closes with the tailgate like factory. Being that I am in and out of my rear tail gate AT LEAST 4-5 times a day, I wanted one latch operation. There really aren't any options out there that compare to it. Yea sure I wanted a bumper with carrier that was integrated into the tailgate, but the price was significantly more from everything I researched.
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Pick up the teraflex carrier/hinge assembly. You may say for a couple hundred bucks you can get a bumper tire carrier assembly. In reality you can't, at least not one that opens and closes with the tailgate like factory. Being that I am in and out of my rear tail gate AT LEAST 4-5 times a day, I wanted one latch operation. There really aren't any options out there that compare to it. Yea sure I wanted a bumper with carrier that was integrated into the tailgate, but the price was significantly more from everything I researched.
I open my tailgate 4-5 times a week, lol. I don't mind opening both. it's not a hard task. We'll see.
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I got mine at Northridge 2 months ago. At the time, it was the best price, considering no shopping costs, no tax, and the forum discount.
How do we go about getting the forum discount? Sorry...im a noon when it comes to that...
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How do we go about getting the forum discount? Sorry...im a noon when it comes to that...
Must be a modern expression "noon". What the heck is a noon.
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That's right I got a heavy duty stationary caster and mounted it to the slide in hitch! As you open or close the tailgate the wheel rolls supporting the spare. Using smaller or larger wheels you can adjust to your liking. Hope this helps! BTW I first used the blue caster to experiment with I have since gone all black and it is barely visible!
Its a really bad idea to have your spare tire resting on your bumper, unless you have an aftermarket bumper that holds the whole tire. You don't want your tire bolted to your tailgate, while it is resting on the bumper. These Jeeps are body on frame construction. The body rest on rubber mounts, on top of the frame. Whenever you hit a large bump the rubber body mounts flex, which lets the body move, relative to the frame. If your tire is bolted to the body, but resting firmly on the bumper, every large bump is going to flex your whole tailgate, because the bumper (mounted to the frame) is moving relative to your spare tire mount (mounted to the body).
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Must be a modern expression "noon". What the heck is a noon.
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Pick up the teraflex carrier/hinge assembly. You may say for a couple hundred bucks you can get a bumper tire carrier assembly. In reality you can't, at least not one that opens and closes with the tailgate like factory. Being that I am in and out of my rear tail gate AT LEAST 4-5 times a day, I wanted one latch operation. There really aren't any options out there that compare to it. Yea sure I wanted a bumper with carrier that was integrated into the tailgate, but the price was significantly more from everything I researched.
I'm using the TF HD hinge/tire carrier on my JKURX (as I saved it from my previous 2010 build before I traded it in) until I can afford the AEV tire carrier. Both the AEV and TF solutions run pretty close in price range, and both will work with the OEM rear bumpers.

Any of those other aftermarket adapters will work for a short temporary solution until you find a more durable and permanent solution. Just remember that they move the tire/wheel mounting point up and out, i.e. away from the stock design position, which technically creates a larger "arm/moment" condition on which you are adding more weight, which all puts more stress on the original tail gate mounts. While I wouldn't use adapters off road, but just for the sake of having access to a spare while traveling might be mitigating the risk of tail gate damage. Some use them without issue, others report having had problems.
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Take a look at the Maximus-3 Carrier. Completly removes the weight off of the tail gate and doesn't need a new bumper.
All the pics of the tire carrier on their website are on the new Rubicon, anybody know if it will fit on non-Rubicon models? How does it mount to the stock bumper?
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I was in the same boat as you. Confused on why I would spend so much on the Teraflex when I could get a whole bumper + tire carrier for a few hundred more. I talked to the rep I've worked with at 4wheelparts, and he mentioned that there is dual reasoning: to have a hinge that opens with the tailgate (not too important to me, like with you) BUT also because it makes NO noise. This is VERY important to me. It is also important to me to keep cost down and the cheapest tire carrier + bumper you'll find will be in the $900-$1200 range. The cheaper tire carriers have constant complaints on shaking, rattling, and noise. Constant complaints on the latches breaking or not working to swing the tire open. The ones that don't are in the $1100+. I looked at LOD, poison spyder, and ACE JK Pro series. LOD & PS were too expensive for my needs, and ACE I don't have the skill to install, so it bumped up the price significantly. So, he said he'd cut me a deal on parts, and I'm going with the Teraflex and a hitch kit for the stock bumper. Not buying a new bumper, why would I need it? So, that makes it the cheapest option that works the best.
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Has anyone used a relocation bracket and reinforcement kit like this one? I have 315 Duratracs on a 17" Level 8 Tracker. I don't really want to spend a ton on a new swing arm or bumper, but want my spare with me.

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