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Old 04-18-2014, 01:57 PM   #1
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Spare tire wrecking my tail gate?

A few weeks ago I got into an accident and the hook my spare tire hangs off broke. I sent my jeep to an autobody shop in my town (It had to go in to get a fender flare painted and put on since it was cracked and broken) and the guy who owns the body shop said we have to take whole spare tire holder off because "my tire is too heavy and is wrecking my tail gate." I have 33 Mickey Thompson mudding tires on my JK. I never had a problem with it before. I took my third brake light off in the fall because it was rusting and broke off but now the guy at the auto body shop is saying that my tire caused that to break off. I'm just really confused about this all.

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Yep true story.

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Old 04-18-2014, 02:38 PM   #3
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If your running a 33" tire on your stock spare then it's way to heavy. I'm sure people will agree and disagree with me on the forum but I recently built a rear bumper with spare tire swing arm. When taking stock parts off I noticed the stock mounting consist of bolts that thread thru thin sheet metal with anchor or nuts behind the tail gate panel. It's almost like hanging a heavy picture at home thru sheet rock with anchors. If it takes a small bump then it's coming off. I know there are adapters and what not for over sized tires to be mounted using stock mounts. The further the tire is away from the mount the more leverage it puts on the mount. I would go aftermarket somehow. You risk a chance of it falling off and going thru someone's windshield.
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A few weeks ago I got into an accident and the hook my spare tire hangs off broke. I sent my jeep to an autobody shop in my town (It had to go in to get a fender flare painted and put on since it was cracked and broken) and the guy who owns the body shop said we have to take whole spare tire holder off because "my tire is too heavy and is wrecking my tail gate." I have 33 Mickey Thompson mudding tires on my JK. I never had a problem with it before. I took my third brake light off in the fall because it was rusting and broke off but now the guy at the auto body shop is saying that my tire caused that to break off. I'm just really confused about this all.
A lot of people will go to a tub mounted carrier like the Teraflex Hinged Tire Carrier and Adjustable Mount to not only take the weight off the factory mount but also the tailgate hinges. There are other options as well. You can get a new Rear Bumper that has or at least accepts a tire carrier.

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If your running a 33" tire on your stock spare then it's way to heavy. I'm sure people will agree and disagree with me on the forum but I recently built a rear bumper with spare tire swing arm. When taking stock parts off I noticed the stock mounting consist of bolts that thread thru thin sheet metal with anchor or nuts behind the tail gate panel. It's almost like hanging a heavy picture at home thru sheet rock with anchors. If it takes a small bump then it's coming off. I know there are adapters and what not for over sized tires to be mounted using stock mounts. The further the tire is away from the mount the more leverage it puts on the mount. I would go aftermarket somehow. You risk a chance of it falling off and going thru someone's windshield.
I forgot to mention that on my 2009 JK the rear bumper is solid plastic. The bumper comes with threaded metal holes that bolt to the frame rails. Not sure about the newer jeeps. So if you want a aftermarket tire carrier then you may have to buy a bumper plus the tire carrier. Not sure if they make some sort of a aftermarket bracket or tire carrier that will hold such a heavy tire. Anybody know of one?
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A lot of people will go to a tub mounted carrier like the Teraflex Hinged Tire Carrier and Adjustable Mount to not only take the weight off the factory mount but also the tailgate hinges. There are other options as well. You can get a new Rear Bumper that has or at least accepts a tire carrier. Let me know if you have any questions or would like a quote! -Ryan
So they do make one. If you spend the money for a rear bumper and tire carrier make sure you get one that will carry a larger tire like a 35". So when you decide to upgrade to a larger tire you will be good.
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So they do make one. If you spend the money for a rear bumper and tire carrier make sure you get one that will carry a larger tire like a 35". So when you decide to upgrade to a larger tire you will be good.
Yes, the Teraflex carrier is one option. Another is the Exogate and I'm sure there are a few others. No mater what you go with, make sure the tire is firmly planted against the tailgate snubber so it can't dance around and fatigue the carrier. Let me know if you have any questions!

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Old 04-18-2014, 04:06 PM   #8
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Yes, the Teraflex carrier is one option. Another is the Exogate and I'm sure there are a few others. No mater what you go with, make sure the tire is firmly planted against the tailgate snubber so it can't dance around and fatigue the carrier. Let me know if you have any questions!

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Pretty sure the exogate is just for Tj's
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Old 04-18-2014, 05:15 PM   #9
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Old 04-18-2014, 06:26 PM   #10
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The AEV carrier will mount using stock bumper. It takes all the weight off of the door and it's hinges, and puts it on the frame. Not cheap, but very well made, and if I remember correctly, will take a 37" tire. I have had mine for a few years now and it has performed perfectly. No rattles, and opens with the door like the stock carrier.
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The AEV is the one I plan on getting also, I happen to have their bumpers also so it only makes sense. there are also mounts for the Hi-lift and pull pal that mount on the carrier.
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Old 04-18-2014, 09:37 PM   #12
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Yes, and the fuel caddy is a great accessory. Another 10 gal of gas can come in handy. Especially when it does not take up any real estate inside. Plus there is a nice place to mount a full size shovel, for us old guys that don't bend and dig on our knees like we once could! All in all just a well thought out design, followed up with quality components and craftsmanship.
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Old 04-18-2014, 11:18 PM   #13
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My AEV tire carrier works great. I was surprised at the weight difference between 31"&33" tires.
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You can also consider the OR-fab tire carrier. Don't need to change the bumper until you are ready, mounts to the tub taking all the pressure off of the tailgate. Rock solid.
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I has a full-on AEV setup on the last JK i had...my 2012. This time, I opted to go with the Teraflex tire carrier and hinges. Took a little time to prep/paint the area under the hinges but it is a really nice design and keeps the tire really close to the body. I may not want a bumper-mounted tire carrier again. I still want a rear bumper though.
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If your running a 33" tire on your stock spare then it's way to heavy. I'm sure people will agree and disagree with me on the forum but I recently built a rear bumper with spare tire swing arm. When taking stock parts off I noticed the stock mounting consist of bolts that thread thru thin sheet metal with anchor or nuts behind the tail gate panel. It's almost like hanging a heavy picture at home thru sheet rock with anchors. If it takes a small bump then it's coming off. I know there are adapters and what not for over sized tires to be mounted using stock mounts. The further the tire is away from the mount the more leverage it puts on the mount. I would go aftermarket somehow. You risk a chance of it falling off and going thru someone's windshield.
The weight is a factor, but the bigger factor is that people just let them hang there withOUT increasing the size of the bumpstops to hold the tire securely.
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The weight is a factor, but the bigger factor is that people just let them hang there withOUT increasing the size of the bumpstops to hold the tire securely.
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Ugh, WITHOUT.
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Ha !! I missed that totally. Fixed

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