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Old 11-21-2013, 07:54 PM   #1
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Spring Swap--Do I have this right

I have a 2dr 2011 rubi--hard top--trailer pkg-14/56 springs--ace rails--auto--4.10 gears
I do mostly surface roads-- some light off-roading--DD--only vehicle

I am planning on swapping out the springs with a set of 19/60 springs that I purchased from mopar new, and plan on putting on a set of BFG AT/KO 285/70/17 ON MAMBA 17'' with 4.75 bs (8"wide)

Questions-Will I have to notch out the airdam?
Will I have to do anything about the sway bar end links (inside/outside)?
After a lot of reading , I am sure this is the combo that I will be satisfied with/and really don't want to mess with the geometry too much.
Thanks for your advice--Ron

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Old 11-21-2013, 08:35 PM   #2
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It will fit perfectly. No trimming or adjusting necessary. Do one side at a time and you won't have any issues.

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I did the same swap with no problems. Just make sure not to over stress the brake lines or ABS wiring when raising the body.
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If you do any off-roading I suggest you go ahead and rip off the air dam now.
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I have a 2dr 2011 rubi--hard top--trailer pkg-14/56 springs--ace rails--auto--4.10 gears I do mostly surface roads-- some light off-roading--DD--only vehicle I am planning on swapping out the springs with a set of 19/60 springs that I purchased from mopar new, and plan on putting on a set of BFG AT/KO 285/70/17 ON MAMBA 17'' with 4.75 bs (8"wide) Questions-Will I have to notch out the airdam? Will I have to do anything about the sway bar end links (inside/outside)? After a lot of reading , I am sure this is the combo that I will be satisfied with/and really don't want to mess with the geometry too much. Thanks for your advice--Ron
How much lift will the new springs give you and could this set up be run on a jeep that has less weight in the back For example a soft top?
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How much lift will the new springs give you and could this set up be run on a jeep that has less weight in the back For example a soft top?
He should get about 2" and yest you can do it with a soft top.
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I was told 1 inch max going from stock 2dr. rubi springs to stock 4dr rubi spings.
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I did the same swap with no problems. Just make sure not to over stress the brake lines or ABS wiring when raising the body.
Good point. The 14 is a little different. You need to remove the brake line bracket that is under the front calipers. I don't recall that on my 09. In the rear just remve the bracket on the frame. Both are 10mm bolts.
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He should get about 2" and yest you can do it with a soft top.
Do you have to change anything else like away bars or anything or would you be fine just changing the coils?
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Just the coils. You can also add the Daystar 3/4" spacers for a little added lift without changing anything else. You can easily fit 315 70 17 with that setup with room to spare.

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I was told 1 inch max going from stock 2dr. rubi springs to stock 4dr rubi spings.
Since there is no such thing as "rubi springs", what you were told is not correct.
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Old 11-22-2013, 08:54 AM   #12
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Looking at 14/56 coils compared to 19/60 coils, the difference is easily +2" side by side.

Many 2 door Rubicons have been reported to have 14/56. Very, very few production Wranglers have had 19/60's.
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If only changing out springs from a lower number to a higher number (does not matter if they came from a rubicon or a base sport only the last 2 numbers matter) you do not have to change anything else out. If you go to longer shocks and sway bars etc then the brake lines need to be looked at but as long as stock length shocks etc you are not going to get any more sag. 19/60 come stock just like 14/55 come stock so nothing else would be needed.
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Old 11-26-2013, 08:01 PM   #14
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I went from 14/56 to 18/59 went up around 1 1/4 inches. Added rubicon shocks I have a 2door sport, has a much stiffer ride.
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I went from 14/56 to 18/59 went up around 1 1/4 inches. Added rubicon shocks I have a 2door sport, has a much stiffer ride.
I have 14/56 and I'm getting a really good deal on some 16/59 will my front end be dipping down if I ran that setup?
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Old 11-28-2013, 05:27 AM   #16
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Possibly. If you are going to make the change, it really doesn't make sense to go less than 19/60. Do you really want to save a couple of bucks on your suspension?
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Possibly. If you are going to make the change, it really doesn't make sense to go less than 19/60. Do you really want to save a couple of bucks on your suspension?
ACTUALLY, it DOES make sense to go less than 19/60. The reason I did the spring swap (14/56-18/59), is because most aftermarket coils have a astronomically high compression rates, and wanted to achieve a more anticipated height. We have a "light" 2 door. My only regret is not going with OME.
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ACTUALLY, it DOES make sense to go less than 19/60. The reason I did the spring swap (14/56-18/59), is because most aftermarket coils have a astronomically high compression rates, and wanted to achieve a more anticipated height. We have a "light" 2 door. My only regret is not going with OME.
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What does OME springs and shocks have to do with MOPAR coils?
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What does OME springs and shocks have to do with MOPAR coils?
well I aint no genus (sic) but I think he is showing you the price difference. Like I said I aint no genius so I cud be wrong.

I also agree that it makes sense to go less then 19/60. I do my own work so I replaced my 58's with 60's on my 2013 jku and the difference was minimal. So I think if someone has 55-56's 59's would give about the same as 60's. I would not pay to go from 56 to 59 but doing the work yourself and getting a good deal on springs absolutely do it.
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Since there is no such thing as "rubi springs", what you were told is not correct.
rubicon springs off 10A, not on others. A good 1.5" taller in front with 1 complete more coil a nd 1" taller in rear. By my measurements

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rubicon springs off 10A, not on others. A good 1.5" taller in front with 1 complete more coil a nd 1" taller in rear. By my measurements
Can you buy these new ? Must be hard to come by.
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Possibly. If you are going to make the change, it really doesn't make sense to go less than 19/60. Do you really want to save a couple of bucks on your suspension?
I'm getting the 16/59 and 4 shocks all with less then 300 miles on them for 60 bucks so it's a no brainer
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Can you buy these new ? Must be hard to come by.
can get them from dealer, got them off eBay 100$ local pick up.
68196006aa front $64 on www.factorymoparparts.com
68196009aa rear $72 same place.
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I'm getting the 16/59 and 4 shocks all with less then 300 miles on them for 60 bucks so it's a no brainer
16 is probably about what you already have or less. Would check before.
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can get them from dealer, got them off eBay 100$ local pick up. 68196006aa front $64 on www.factorymoparparts.com 68196009aa rear $72 same place.
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can get them from dealer, got them off eBay 100$ local pick up. 68196006aa front $64 on www.factorymoparparts.com 68196009aa rear $72 same place.
Woah this is awesome. Are those part #'s for the 4 door 10a or 2? This would give a light 2 door about 2-2.5" of lift. Seriously considering them.
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Woah this is awesome. Are those part #'s for the 4 door 10a or 2? This would give a light 2 door about 2-2.5" of lift. Seriously considering them.
these #'S came off a unlimited max tow, guy I got mine from put a 2 1/2 rk and said he only gained 3/4" over what it was stock.
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these #'S came off a unlimited max tow, guy I got mine from put a 2 1/2 rk and said he only gained 3/4" over what it was stock.
Wow, so it should be about 2.25" of lift for a light 2 door. Being that that specific RK lift gives a 2 door 3-3.5" of lift. Slap on some bumpers and such and it will probably be a nice 2" of lift. So glad i found this.
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I'm getting the 16/59 and 4 shocks all with less then 300 miles on them for 60 bucks so it's a no brainer
Perfect, if you want a nice rake.

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