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Old 05-02-2014, 04:32 PM   #1
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Synergy trackbar/sector shaft brace & RK trackbar

Does anybody know if the RK front track bar will work with the synergy front track bar frame brace with sector shaft brace?

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Doubt it. Even Synergy redesigned their own track bar to work with the sector shaft brace.
The bracket itself will work with any track bar.

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Do you think the sector shaft brace is even needed or that big of deal? Mainly want the track bar brace for correcting wallowed factory bracket holes in case I find that's my problem.
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Nice but needed ? Meh. If you were going hydro assist maybe.
If you get the Synergy brace before I do. We aren't friends no more
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I would hold off. Most people are having issues with the coil spring rubbing the sector shaft brace when disconnected. I am one of those people. I was just at Easter Jeep Safari and spoke with Synergy. They told me there springs will not rub because of the diameter. I have the teraflex springs which are almost exactly the same diameter. While speaking with the Synergy guy I called "BS" when he said that. He then told me they are coming out with a new and improved version in about six months. I then said why new and improved if there is no problem? He just smiled.
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I would hold off. Most people are having issues with the coil spring rubbing the sector shaft brace when disconnected. I am one of those people. I was just at Easter Jeep Safari and spoke with Synergy. They told me there springs will not rub because of the diameter. I have the teraflex springs which are almost exactly the same diameter. While speaking with the Synergy guy I called "BS" when he said that. He then told me they are coming out with a new and improved version in about six months. I then said why new and improved if there is no problem? He just smiled.
Is it just the sector shaft brace that's rubbing. I'm mostly interested in the frame brace for the track bar in case I find that my trackbar bolt holes are wallowed out any.
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Old 05-02-2014, 10:13 PM   #7
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I had no problems with the track bar brace.
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TF coils are very wide. Just looking at them, they don't look to be the same in diameter ?
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Now Kjeeper10, I always look for your post and follow your advise. But in this case teraflex are not wide springs. At least not my 4" springs actually narrow compared to most. But let's forget about diameter of springs for a minute.
Let's say Synergy is correct in saying that you will not have a rubbing issue if you use the Synergy springs. Maybe they should state that if you are using springs larger in diameter than Synergy and using the sector and tracbar frame brace you very well may have rubbing issues.
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I don't remember what the fronts looked like.
The rears were very wide and contacted my track bar bracket.
Compared a bunch of coils I've installed, I know the rears are wider then most.
- AEV
- RK gen 1
- RK gen 2
- RC
- TF
- Full craption

Edit: ok here's a pic. The fronts look typical of most coils.
The rears are wider. Here's Synergy's rear coil which appears to not be wide at all.
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Actually all this is moot, since we are talking about Synergy's bracket and front coils lol
Oh well ... Worth the mention
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Your correct for sure on rears being wide. They they made contact with the adjusting sleeve on my rear track bar when I raised it, so I flipped the track bar around and works great no contact.
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Does anybody know if the RK front track bar will work with the synergy front track bar frame brace with sector shaft brace?
What size tire are you running?

Even with 35s if you're doing some pretty moderate-difficult trails hydro assist will help a lot. When you do hydro assist it actually takes a lot of strain off of your drag link and steering box. That sector shaft brace is for people who choose not to go hydro assist and end up with forearms like pop eye.
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I will be running nitto trail grapplers 315/70R17s

I think I may go ahead and get the synergy track bar brace frame side. From the sounds of it, the sector shaft brace may interfere with my RK coils. Is that right?

Also, if I want to correct holes and/or beef them up on the axle end, what would be y'all's best suggestion? I thought about the synergy bracket but that raises the track bar and requires the drag link flip and 3" bump stops. I've got 2" now and don't know if I want to go to 3" and I'm not sure it would work with my lift (RK 2.5 max travel) anyway. Isn't it for taller lifts?

Not sure I want to weld washers on. I like the thought of bolt on better in case of future changes.

I did see that JKS makes a bracket that welds onto the factory one and gives the option of factory location or secondary higher mount hole for the track bar.

Any thoughts or guidance?
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I will be running nitto trail grapplers 315/70R17s I think I may go ahead and get the synergy track bar brace frame side. From the sounds of it, the sector shaft brace may interfere with my RK coils. Is that right? Also, if I want to correct holes and/or beef them up on the axle end, what would be y'all's best suggestion? I thought about the synergy bracket but that raises the track bar and requires the drag link flip and 3" bump stops. I've got 2" now and don't know if I want to go to 3" and I'm not sure it would work with my lift (RK 2.5 max travel) anyway. Isn't it for taller lifts? Not sure I want to weld washers on. I like the thought of bolt on better in case of future changes. I did see that JKS makes a bracket that welds onto the factory one and gives the option of factory location or secondary higher mount hole for the track bar. Any thoughts or guidance?
What kind of wheeling do you do?
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What kind of wheeling do you do?
Compared to a lot on here definitely nothing major. Mostly a little mud and fire trials that have some ruts.

However, once I get everything set up and get my death wobble problem completely figured out, that might change.
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Compared to a lot on here definitely nothing major. Mostly a little mud and fire trials that have some ruts. However, once I get everything set up and get my death wobble problem completely figured out, that might change.
Are you thinking this brace will solve your death wobble or have you pin pointed that yet?
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Are you thinking this brace will solve your death wobble or have you pin pointed that yet?
Have not pin pointed it yet. Just doing my research in case it's the holes that are wallowed out. Also thought this would help beef them up for the future.
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Have not pin pointed it yet. Just doing my research in case it's the holes that are wallowed out. Also thought this would help beef them up for the future.
Do you have access to a decent size welder and can you weld or do you have a friend that can?
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Do you have access to a decent size welder and can you weld or do you have a friend that can?
My uncle is a steel fabricator and more than qualified. He's built anything from multi-story stairs/railings, worked on race cars, and many other things.

What ya got in mind?
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Weld washers or teraflex has a simple plate that bolts right over the mount.
The upper brace shouldn't hit your coils ?
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My uncle is a steel fabricator and more than qualified. He's built anything from multi-story stairs/railings, worked on race cars, and many other things. What ya got in mind?
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/...Code=ruffstuff

9/16 is the same as the 14mm bolts holding your track bar in. You need to remove it and check the heim/rod end and see if there is any play in it. Then check the mounting holes. That link is for washers that you use a step bit to bore it out and weld those in it's place. The factory brackets are only 3/16". You need to fix your death wobble issue first before you start trying to modifying other things. I need to replace the Heim on my RK track bar myself. Ruff stuff carries those too. Standard 7/8 heim will work.
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Weld washers or teraflex has a simple plate that bolts right over the mount. The upper brace shouldn't hit your coils ?
I saw the teraflex plate. Looks like it goes on one side. So what about the other side of the bracket if it is wallowed out? Or is there two plates? Or do you just buy two?
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Weld washers or teraflex has a simple plate that bolts right over the mount. The upper brace shouldn't hit your coils ?
I saw the teraflex plate. Looks like it is one plate and goes on one side. If both sides of bracket are wallowed out do you just get two and put them in place or do they come in pairs or something?
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I saw the teraflex plate. Looks like it is one plate and goes on one side. If both sides of bracket are wallowed out do you just get two and put them in place or do they come in pairs or something?
With a 9/16 bolt, one side should help w/ wobbles.
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I have the synergy sector shaft brace kit and TeraFlex springs and I haven't had any issues. been out a few times since i put it together....

the brace kit tightened things up quite a bit. on the trail or on the street, probably more noticeable on the street. I did have to replace the TF trackbar. that did make contact. but the springs are fine.
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I have the synergy sector shaft brace kit and TeraFlex springs and I haven't had any issues. been out a few times since i put it together.... the brace kit tightened things up quite a bit. on the trail or on the street, probably more noticeable on the street. I did have to replace the TF trackbar. that did make contact. but the springs are fine.
Are you disconnected?
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Fix it Weld Washers - RuffStuff Specialties

9/16 is the same as the 14mm bolts holding your track bar in. You need to remove it and check the heim/rod end and see if there is any play in it. Then check the mounting holes. That link is for washers that you use a step bit to bore it out and weld those in it's place. The factory brackets are only 3/16". You need to fix your death wobble issue first before you start trying to modifying other things. I need to replace the Heim on my RK track bar myself. Ruff stuff carries those too. Standard 7/8 heim will work.
I agree I need to fix my death wobble first. I am going to try to do that first.

However, I thought that since most of the items I have been looking at are either causes or damages as a result from death wobble that they may take care of it AND also it would beef everything up for running larger/heavier tires and for off-roading.

My tires being rotated/balanced, an alignment, and drag links ends have already been done. Other than I think control ,the items I have been looking at would address pretty much all of it. i.e. synergy front track bar brace (frame), teraflex front track bar gusset (axle), synergy track bar, synergy tie rod and ends, and synergy ball joints.
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when I wheel, yes. on the road, nope.
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Update:
Hopefully, we found the cause of my DW. The track bar bracket holes on the frame end were rounded out some. Axle end looked ok. If that end is rounded any, it is very, very little. Couldn't even notice any. But the frame end was definitely.

I went ahead and ordered the synergy track bar frame brace, sector shaft brace, track bar and steering stabilizer HD relocation bracket. Parts came in last night and I got them dropped off to my mechanic friend first thing this morning. Hopefully, I will know something by tonight. Keeping my fingers crossed, hoping and praying.

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