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Old 12-09-2013, 03:42 PM   #1
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Teraflex 2.5 coil lift?

I have a 2 door 2013 JK Rubicon and am looking to get the Teraflex 2.5 coil lift with shock extensions for it. I read the kit either comes with the axle side track bar relocation or the frame side bracket that requires a hole to be drilled. Does anyone have any idea which bracket the most recent version of the kit comes with? Also I read Teraflex advises that it requires wheel spacers with stock wheels, but read on the forums that some people got away running the rear sway bar links in board. Can I get by running the links in board with my stock wheels and no spacers? My Jeep part budget really sucks right now so I am hoping I can get by without spacers. Thanks in advance.

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The kit now comes with a axle bracket. The lift used to come with a drop bracket that needed drilling, you are all set there.
Yes ... Either you can run the links inboard or keep the stock links in the rear w/ new fronts or discos.

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So the rears don't need to be replaced with discos? I have this set up )teraflex 2.5 coil and JKS quicker discos) nwaiting on my tires and haven't really measured the new links vs the stock rears. Are they the same?
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So the rears don't need to be replaced with discos? I have this set up )teraflex 2.5 coil and JKS quicker discos) nwaiting on my tires and haven't really measured the new links vs the stock rears. Are they the same?
Huh? The links in the kit replace the rears and stocks go to the front.

Actually I screwed that up. OP....Keep the stocks in the rear and try running the new rears in the front.
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Actually the 2.5" kit that includes the shock adapters comes with the frame mount track bar bracket. I tt TFlex a couple times last week and they assured me, outside of drilling a hole, there is not real difference in function between them.

That sd, I am not going to be using my shock adapters. I could be easily persuaded to send them to you for just the cost of shipping. That would allow you to order the kit with the axle mounted bracket, if that is what you really want.

My kit was for a 4 dr, but I would think the adapters would work on either.

The spacer issue does suck. Adds over 50% more to the cost of the project. That sd, I tend to believe that car manufacturers put things on a certain way for a reason. So I wasn't keen on switching the links and just bit the bullet and ordered some.

Good luck. I am putting mine on this week.
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Actually the 2.5" kit that includes the shock adapters comes with the frame mount track bar bracket. I tt TFlex a couple times last week and they assured me, outside of drilling a hole, there is not real difference in function between them. That sd, I am not going to be using my shock adapters. I could be easily persuaded to send them to you for just the cost of shipping. That would allow you to order the kit with the axle mounted bracket, if that is what you really want. My kit was for a 4 dr, but I would think the adapters would work on either. The spacer issue does suck. Adds over 50% more to the cost of the project. That sd, I tend to believe that car manufacturers put things on a certain way for a reason. So I wasn't keen on switching the links and just bit the bullet and ordered some. Good luck. I am putting mine on this week.
Are you sure ? My kit came with the drop bracket. Then I was told all coil kits came with the axle brackets. TF sent me a axle when I emailed them. Saying there's no difference between them is incorrect. The axle bracket does two things. Centers the axle and corrects roll center. The drop bracket is a cheap alternative will not change roll center.
Roll center is important for good handling.
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Are you sure ? My kit came with the drop bracket. Then I was told all coil kits came with the axle brackets. TF sent me a axle when I emailed them. Saying there's no difference between them is incorrect. The axle bracket does two things. Centers the axle and corrects roll center. The drop bracket is a cheap alternative will not change roll center.
Roll center is important for good handling.
Lets make this a little clearer, what one is desirable the one that gets the hole drilled or the one that does not require a hole to be drilled. Mine is a 2.5 coil without shocks and the bracket I got was the one that you do not have to drill a hole for. I'm a little confused....
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Lets make this a little clearer, what one is desirable the one that gets the hole drilled or the one that does not require a hole to be drilled. Mine is a 2.5 coil without shocks and the bracket I got was the one that you do not have to drill a hole for. I'm a little confused....
If the bracket you have bolts to the axle then you have the desired bracket.
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Lets make this a little clearer, what one is desirable the one that gets the hole drilled or the one that does not require a hole to be drilled. Mine is a 2.5 coil without shocks and the bracket I got was the one that you do not have to drill a hole for. I'm a little confused....
The one that bolts to the axle mount is the one you have and want
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The one that bolts to the axle mount is the one you have and want
That's the guy, THANKS!
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The kit now comes with a axle bracket. The lift used to come with a drop bracket that needed drilling, you are all set there.
Yes ... Either you can run the links inboard or keep the stock links in the rear w/ new fronts or discos.
This is incorrect. The coil lift that uses the shock extensions still comes with the frame side drop bracket. Typically I recommend people get the kit with out shock extensions so they get the axle side bracket and add the shock extensions in as an addition.
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This is incorrect. The coil lift that uses the shock extensions still comes with the frame side drop bracket. Typically I recommend people get the kit with out shock extensions so they get the axle side bracket and add the shock extensions in as an addition.
Hmm, i see that now looking at the site. I was told the coil lifts come with the axle side bracket. And only the budget boost use the frame.
I don't like that drop bracket
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I've had the drop bracket in mine for 6 years without issue. I have installed many of these kits since then all with the drop bracket, 0 issues, on and off road.
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Hmmm, I bought my Teraflex 2.5 coil lift with shock adapters, from Quadratec in May as advised by Quadratec since I already had Rubicon shocks. I got the frame side drop bracket. Now understanding that the axle side bracket is much better, I am kinda upset. I have Teraflex everything including Monster adjustable front trackbar and S/S.

Maybe Teraflex will be nice and upgrade me......

Can I go back to the stock frame side mounting point if I get the axle side bracket?
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Thank you for clarifying Teraflex, great customer service!
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[QUOTE=HealthyToker;6680074] Now understanding that the axle side bracket is much better, I am kinda upset. I have Teraflex everything including Monster adjustable front trackbar and S/S.


Who says it is better? When I tt Teraflex last week I was told that they would be happy to give me a great deal on the axle bracket if I preferred that. But, that there was nothing wrong with the drop bracket, they doubted I would be able to even tell the difference and that they have actually had more service calls about the axle bracket (usually not being mounted correctly) than with the drop bracket (hard to mess up).

Their advise was to only switch to the axle bracket if I did not want to drill a hole for the frame bracket. I did opt to switch, but for that reason. I did not walk away from the conversation sensing that one is better than the other.
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My only other comment would be everyone else I have seen and talked said that the 2.5" coil lift would sit level and take away the factor "rake". This was not the case on my 2013 Sport S w/ max tow package. After everything has settle, my front still sits about .5"-.75" lower than the rear.

What gives? Do I need a spacer? Should this really be necessary?
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My only other comment would be everyone else I have seen and talked said that the 2.5" coil lift would sit level and take away the factor "rake". This was not the case on my 2013 Sport S w/ max tow package. After everything has settle, my front still sits about .5"-.75" lower than the rear. What gives? Do I need a spacer? Should this really be necessary?
It happens. A spacer would be your best bet.

@ Photo. I never said that there's a problem with the drop bracket. It's only purpose is to center the axle and it does a good job.

My opinion, the axle side is the way to go. Maybe not at 2.5 but higher lifts to correct the rear roll center. At 3.5"-3" along with a front TB raise/drag link flip. Now it becomes important to raise the rear. Look at most 2.5" kits. AEV/MC/RK etc ... All raise the rear TB which does improve handling.
Plus the axle bracket is 100x stronger and mounts to 3 locations.
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Back to OP's question about wheel spacers.. If you are running factory wheels and tires, you won't need them.

If you are putting wider tires on factory rims you will.

This is regardless of the lift or not.

When we did my 2.5" TF coil lift, I tried to mount the tires without spacers and there was no chance at all. 35x12/5x17 km2s sat tight against the rear control arms.
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My opinion, the axle side is the way to go. Maybe not at 2.5 but higher lifts to correct the rear roll center. At 3.5"-3" along with a front TB raise/drag link flip. Now it becomes important to raise the rear. Look at most 2.5" kits. AEV/MC/RK etc ... All raise the rear TB which does improve handling.
Plus the axle bracket is 100x stronger and mounts to 3 locations.
Interesting point, am I not correct in thinking that the frame side drop bracket keeps the roll center lower then the axle side raised bracket. Raise the trackbar raise the roll center..

In all honesty, I am on the highway all the time with 3.5" lift. Rear frame side bracket and in front AEV TB raise and draglink flip and have noticed 0 effects from the supposed roll center difference. What is this Roll center difference suppose to affect? Certainly Not on road highway handling..

On a side note, for those worried, I have yet to hear of anyone having issues with the TB drop bracket, however that cannot be said for the axle side brackets..
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Interesting point, am I not correct in thinking that the frame side drop bracket keeps the roll center lower then the axle side raised bracket. Raise the trackbar raise the roll center.. In all honesty, I am on the highway all the time with 3.5" lift. Rear frame side bracket and in front AEV TB raise and draglink flip and have noticed 0 effects from the supposed roll center difference. What is this Roll center difference suppose to affect? Certainly Not on road highway handling.. On a side note, for those worried, I have yet to hear of anyone having issues with the TB drop bracket, however that cannot be said for the axle side brackets..
The way the body shifts over uneven road and cornering.

I'm not saying you will have "issues", but I honestly Think you would be surprised at the difference the axle bracket will make.
A friend Local complains off roll issues with no rear roll correction. The roads here are terrible, maybe that has something to do with it? Highway you shouldn't notice a change.

Best advice is to read AEV's take on roll center, their tower raises the TB 5-6" in the 3.5" kit.

I'm not trashing the drop bracket. I thought the kit mentioned came with the axle, and I was wrong. Still stay with my opinion-the axle bracket is the way to go
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My TF 2.5" coil lift just arrived, with a set of Bilsteins. The lift kit, shipped directly from TF, says to use wheel spacers. I ordered theirs with the lift kit.

Now you rascals have me baffled... I reckon, though, as the lift kit was drop shipped direct from Utah it's their latest and greatest... I'll have to look and see what's inside!
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So i'm thinking about this kit for the rubi x I'm buying. Any suggestions on which version? Am I better off using the "upgraded" factory shocks and extenders or get the kit with the new longer ones. Any other twists putting this kit on a rubicon x?
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So i'm thinking about this kit for the rubi x I'm buying. Any suggestions on which version? Am I better off using the "upgraded" factory shocks and extenders or get the kit with the new longer ones. Any other twists putting this kit on a rubicon x?
I ran mine with the stock rubi shocks and extenders for a while and it was good, then I got rancho 9000's. Now it's the bees knees. As firm or as soft as you want it to ride. It's great.
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I just recently put a 2.5" coil lift in my auto 2013 jku and have billy 27" long travel shocks and when on the hoist at full droop the front driveshaft sits on the exhuast even with the terraflex exhaust spacers. What are my options?
Do I need to go to a smaller shock as a 25" or mod my exhaust
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I just recently put a 2.5" coil lift in my auto 2013 jku and have billy 27" long travel shocks and when on the hoist at full droop the front driveshaft sits on the exhuast even with the terraflex exhaust spacers. What are my options? Do I need to go to a smaller shock as a 25" or mod my exhaust
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