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Old 05-10-2014, 08:27 AM   #1
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Thank You FOX!!!!

For taking out the "GITTERS" from my steering wheel.

I purchased a FOX 2.0 ATS THROUGH SHAFT STEERING STABILIZER.

I have 33" tires and while driving on the highway, I noticed a small amount of front tire shake at times (I thought it was the tires so I had them rebalanced) (Also installed centering rings for the rims) all of which helped but did not solve the "problem" especially if it hit a small hole.

No I am back to driving normally without the small bounce,shake, what ever you want to call it. It is now very smooth.

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I did not have tire shake, but after lifting my 2dr and putting 315's on the Jeep it would follow ruts in the road. Cross winds, even the smallest, would make it dance around. The FOX ATS improved all of that drastically.
I'm not happy about losing my 9/16 bolt for the trackbar. I need to look into a bracket one of these days.

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You shouldn't have steering wheel jitter even without a stabilizer. Your new stabilizer is just masking the issue until it gets worse.
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Old 05-11-2014, 05:33 AM   #4
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^^^This,
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X3 Did you try "road force balancing"
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Old 05-11-2014, 06:56 AM   #6
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I have 8,600 miles on it. 6,000 on the tires.

No I did not "Road Force" ballance them. I have never heard of it.
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They use a special machine that simulates load on the tire. Reads highs and lows. Them gives locations for the tech to match mount the tire position on the wheel. Then he will swing a arm
Out and read wheel run out. It's pricier but will tell you if the tire/wheel is bad needing replaced.

Hey, I have the ATS and love it. I still feel tire issues. Unfortunately, I don't have a good tire shop around that wants to touch a 35. The ones that will are idiots
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+1 on road force balancing. I had a shimmy at 45-50 mph even after having my new MTR's balanced several times.

It wasn't until I had them road force balanced that it was discovered one tire was slightly out of round (corrected by rotating the tire on the wheel). A second tire was too out of round to be corrected and replaced under warranty.

I love my Fox ATS SS also, but it shouldn't be used to mask a shimmy or shake.

Hunter GSP9700 Wheel vibration Control System solves wheel vibration and tire pull problems that balancers and aligners can't fix
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They use a special machine that simulates load on the tire. Reads highs and lows. Them gives locations for the tech to match mount the tire position on the wheel. Then he will swing a arm
Out and read wheel run out. It's pricier but will tell you if the tire/wheel is bad needing replaced.

^^^Yep, Discount Tire offers' this balance procedure, but at a additional cost.

I have used it in the past, and yes it works........
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Do you guys torque your lugs when tightening them ... use an impact .. or other means?

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Discount tire does my tire rotations free, because I have their Road Hazard policy.
They torque them to 100 ft. lbs.
I always follow up the next morning, when the wheels and hubs are cold, and re-torque them to 100 ft. lbs.

This is probably over kill, but I do a lot of high speed driving in our mountains, so safety first.......
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Do you guys torque your lugs when tightening them ... use an impact .. or other means? .

Noooo
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Noooo
Nooo what? ... you don't torque them or you don't use an impact?

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Thank You FOX!!!! For taking out the "GITTERS" from my steering wheel.
You sound like Jimmy Fallon on Friday night...

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Nooo what? ... you don't torque them or you don't use an impact? .
Neither

No impact. I always loosen/re-torque if I had a shop touch my tires. Just don't trust them.
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No impact. I always loosen/re-torque if I had a shop touch my tires. Just don't trust them.
So you do torque them? you said "Nooo" ... I'm confused now, you say "I always loosen/re-torque if I had a shop touch my tires. Just don't trust them"..

Does this mean you change your own tires and balance them yourself because you "loosen/re-torque if I had a shop touch my tires" and don't trust tire shops... or you have them do it and you do it over to assure it's done right?

???

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This is what I say ... Kjeeper totally confused me, he's normally coherent.

Maybe he drank his 12 pack already...

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I think he is saying no to installing them with an impact

I do agree, just a random "Noooooo" doesn't really help
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This is what I say ... Kjeeper totally confused me, he's normally coherent.

Maybe he drank his 12 pack already...

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Ken is a great guy, and I think that he is was just having some fun with you..
Seriously, just torque them cold to 100 ft. lbs. with a accurate torque wrench, and you will be good to go.......
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Ken is a great guy, and I think that he is was just having some fun with you..
Seriously, just torque them cold to 100 ft. lbs. with a accurate torque wrench, and you will be good to go.......
Yeah, I know. I was razzin him the other day about how he aligns his Jeep with two screws and a string. I want to see what tools he uses to road force balance his tires and wheels.

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Yeah, I know. I was razzin him the other day about how he aligns his Jeep with two screws and a string. I want to see what tools he uses to road force balance his tires and wheels.

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When I was a young Lad, I worked at a service station, and we would spin balance the wheel and tire right on the vehicle, using a Hunter spin balancer. It was pretty accurate, because you balanced the tire/wheel/hub, all as one. But obviously, when you rotated the tires, well then you had to start all over again.
When ever I found one way out of balance, then I would break the tire down, and reposition it 180 degrees on the rim. Most of the time, this did help.........
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When I was a young Lad, I worked at a service station, and we would spin balance the wheel and tire right on the vehicle, using a Hunter spin balancer. It was pretty accurate, because you balanced the tire/wheel/hub, all as one. But obviously, when you rotated the tires, well then you had to start all over again.
When ever I found one way out of balance, then I would break the tire down, and reposition it 180 degrees on the rim. Most of the time, this did help.........
OD.. I remember those Hunter spin balancing machines, never could figure how they determined where to put the weights based on those rings they touched on the hub when it was spinning. On our '69 Charger, my dad went as far as having the Firestone Wide Oval tires shaved.. then spun balanced.

I never used a Hunter spin balancing machine, the Mobil station I worked at only had the basics..

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Lol sorry to confuse you . ... Busy day. Sticking caliper/new brake lines ... Breakfast with Mom

"nooo" meaning "no I don't out a impact to the lug nuts"

"Nether" was a joke

Then I made the point of not trusting shops. I have this pet peeve about torquing the lugs a certain way. If I can.... I want to be the one to mount my tire.
If I don't have a choice (shop does it). As soon as I arrive home. I will loosen and re-torque the way I like to do it. (Few turns each lug at a time, in a star pattern while spinning the tire. Final torque to 100 ft lbs.
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Yeah, I know. I was razzin him the other day about how he aligns his Jeep with two screws and a string. I want to see what tools he uses to road force balance his tires and wheels. .
Hey ... My toe was within 1/16 lol
I have mud tires with thick treads. It works solo -, Just don't forget the screws in the tires and drive .... Not good

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