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Old 03-25-2014, 06:03 PM   #1
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Tuffy Security Console Insert

Tuffy's security console insert......does anyone have one and how do you like it? Do you lose a lot of space with it? Easy to install? I don't want their replacement console....wanna keep the stock look.

I'm either getting their console insert or their under seat security drawer.

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Tuffy's security console insert......does anyone have one and how do you like it? Do you lose a lot of space with it? Easy to install? I don't want their replacement console....wanna keep the stock look.

I'm either getting their console insert or their under seat security drawer.
It doesn't look like the Tuffy Security Console Insert is much smaller than the factory console. However the Tuffy Conceal Carry Security Drawer gives you more space. The under seat drawer is ~325 cubic inches, where the console is ~155 cubic inches.

The nice thing is that either option will allow you retain the factory look and give you lockable storage. Let me know if you have any other questions or would like a quote!

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Old 03-26-2014, 05:13 PM   #4
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I had a Tuffy console in my TJ and plan to do the console insert and undersea drawer in my new JK. Tuffy makes a quality product for sure. I think its a must have if you run topless/doorless
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Old 03-26-2014, 06:21 PM   #5
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Does the under the seat drawer install like it's supposed to in the newer JK's? I thought I read somewhere where some people were having problems.
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Does the under the seat drawer install like it's supposed to in the newer JK's? I thought I read somewhere where some people were having problems.
I have one in my 09 and it bolted right in no issues. My only complaint is that my left heel strikes it sometimes when I drive and pull my leg back.
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Does the under the seat drawer install like it's supposed to in the newer JK's? I thought I read somewhere where some people were having problems.
No problem in my '13 (other than difficulty breaking the seat bolt loose).
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Looking at getting one of the console inserts also. How securley are these attached? Do you maintain the top portion seperator when installing or is that removed for this to fit, I can never tell from the images I have looked at.

From my understanding the drawers don't work on the 2011+ 2door becuase of the slide and tumble seats.
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From my understanding the drawers don't work on the 2011+ 2door becuase of the slide and tumble seats.
When you say the drawers don't work, you mean they won't open? No matter what position the seat is in? How's a 2-door drivers seat different than a 4-door?
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I have not tried to install one on a 2 dr, but something changed in 2011 from what I have read. And if you go to tuffy website it states the drawers only work through 2010 2dr. Someone else may have more info. I would honestly love to know if it's just the movement of the seat that gets hindered or if there is just no room for it to fit, I have honestly not taken a close enough look under the seats. Bit I never rotate the driver seat forward as I let my kids in the passenger side since it tumbles further forward. So if the driver drawer fit but just limited travel I could probably live with that.
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The drawers don't work on the 2011+ 2 doors because there is a bar under there for the folding mechanism that was added. The bar physically prevents the box from fitting under the seat, so it's not a matter of putting it under there and travel being limited, but rather it not actually fitting under the seat.
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We have the tuffy console insert in all 3 of our JKs. Works great. easy install. don't lose too much space. It is secured by 2 bolts near the base of the insert.
I actually had someone break into my jeep last year. They attempted to gain access to the console but were unsuccessful. I highly recommend them.
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Thank you both for the info! Sounds like the console insert is my best choice.
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If i knew i was going to lose the top trey i would not have purchased it. Otherwise i do like mine.
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If i knew i was going to lose the top trey i would not have purchased it. Otherwise i do like mine.
Ok, I'm dropping the under-seat drawer idea since it sounds like it won't work in a 2013. But you're staying if I go with the console insert, I lose my top trey?
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Yes, you lose the top tray. I'm looking at the Bestop one myself, since I have their drawers and can match the key, plus it keeps the top tray. The one thing I haven't seen is if t has the USB/power outlet cutouts like the Tuffy, or the opening for the USB cable.
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Yes, you lose the top tray. I'm looking at the Bestop one myself, since I have their drawers and can match the key, plus it keeps the top tray. The one thing I haven't seen is if t has the USB/power outlet cutouts like the Tuffy, or the opening for the USB cable.
If you look at the product page they have the installation instructions. The diagram of the box in the instructions shows a large oval cutout on the front of the box which seems like would be for the usb/outlet. So without seeing it written down, it looks like it may have the cutout.
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The Best Top Under Seat Box does not fit if you have the Tilt/Lift and Slide style seats.
Like JWilson2598 said, there is a bar in the way.
My 2dr 12' JK has them and I had to return it.
Thats when I "learned" about the Tilt/Lift and Slide feature. I like it for easier access to 2dr rear seat, compared to just the slide and seat back tilt release type front seats. But wish I could fit the box.
I believe the Tilt/Lift and Slide seats came on some 2drs JK's, not all.

I too, would like to know about the Tuffy console box.
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I ended up ordering the bestop console insert. It doesn't seem as secure but it retains the top tray, from what I have seen, and is about half the price. I will check it out when I get it and if I don't feel it's secure enough I will try to add mtg holes or additional support if needed. I will let you know how it fits around the connections inside the console.
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I ended up ordering the bestop console insert. It doesn't seem as secure but it retains the top tray, from what I have seen, and is about half the price. I will check it out when I get it and if I don't feel it's secure enough I will try to add mtg holes or additional support if needed. I will let you know how it fits around the connections inside the console.
Thanks, looking forward to hearing some firsthand information about it.
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i have a 2013 four-door and put the tuffy boxes under both the driver and passenger seats - and had them keyed-alike. They are fantastic - very well built and the slide works well even at -30. The only downside to them is they raise the front of the seat by a ╝" or so and that seems to be just enough that the seats feel too high at the front now and dig into the backs of my legs. Might end up putting some washers under the back mounting points.
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We just installed the Tuffy Security Drawer on the passenger side of a 2014 JKU Sahara. We really like it and now I don't feel the need to purchase the console version. Installation would have been much easier if we had the correct size socket (installation required an 18mm). Although we skipped the additional security step when installing, the box is still very snug fitting and isn't going anywhere. Drawer is very solid, secure and well built. Expensive, but worth it.
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i didn't put the bolt through the floor either and the tray can bounce a bit over bumps - easily remedied with a bit of foam under the tray.

18mm socket and a breaker bar - those seat bolts are in there!
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i didn't put the bolt through the floor either and the tray can bounce a bit over bumps - easily remedied with a bit of foam under the tray.

18mm socket and a breaker bar - those seat bolts are in there!
LOL! Yes indeed they are, almost like Excalibur in the stone! My hubby rattled off quite a string of curse words removing the bolts!
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LOL! Yes indeed they are, almost like Excalibur in the stone! My hubby rattled off quite a string of curse words removing the bolts!
I cheated and used my impact gun. Took about 20 seconds to get then out and about 5 minutes total to install it.
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I ended up ordering the bestop console insert. It doesn't seem as secure but it retains the top tray, from what I have seen, and is about half the price. I will check it out when I get it and if I don't feel it's secure enough I will try to add mtg holes or additional support if needed. I will let you know how it fits around the connections inside the console.
Well I got the bestop console insert today. Haven't installed it but put it in the jeep to see how it fits. A few notes

Fits real nice down in the console hole. It only mounts with 2 screws through plastic in back, but I feel once mounted I think it would be very difficult to pull it out or pry it out. I can't even pull it out without screws when the door is shut as it is recessed in so far and there is nothing to grab or pry up on. It may be possible to break the plastic console by prying between them, but that's pretty much the case with anything. For this reason I may try to add a few fasteners at the bottom of the console.

It does have access holes at the front of the console. I have a 2013 moab with connectivity so I have the USB and the accessory Power plug. Bad thing is the hole for sub port access is too low. If you push the insert fully into the console I can't get a USB plugged in. If I pull the insert out enough to plug In the USB plug, the door tray hits the insert door/lock. Also the insert lid closes into the hole opening by about 1/8". So if I plug In USB plug and push insert into console as far as the USB plug allows, the lid doesn't want to shut because it also hits the USB plug. There is also no way to route a cable out of the insert with the door shut so the cable would t do you any good unless you left whatever was plugged in inside the console. I have never used this port in the year I have owned the jeep and I also have one on the 430N so I am not going to modify or or stress about it. The accessory power plug a lot isn't perfectly centered but access is fine for it.

Last thing I want to note that I wasn't expecting. The key is required to open the console. You cannot leave it unlocked and pull the key out. You can rotate the lock into the lock position and pull the key but the locking arm hits the locking tab and the door doesn't shut all the way, and again the top door tray hits the door if it's not shut all the way. There is also nothing to grab onto to open the door if closed in this fashion. Not sure I am completely thrilled about this because If it's shut while driving and the key is on the key chain I won't be able to open it. My main reason to buy is to store my conceal carry when I can't keep it on me. So if I don't unlock and grab it before driving off, it will remain locked in the console until I pull the keys from ignition. I am going to think about this further, but I believe in order to remain low enough to retain the door tray they kept the lock low profile without a tab to grab and open the door. This means the only way to pull open is with the key in the lock.

If I think of anything else I will post up.
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I have been looking at the same lock box, thanks for the info.
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Thanks for the info Artax. The not being able to leave I tip unlocked is a bit of a concern. My plan would be to install the box and leave it unlocked for easy access until I need to lock something in it, which it sounds like I might not be able to do with this. Hmmm...
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The Tuffy security console can be left unlocked. I lock it when I have my top off. It is secured by the screws that hold the armrest on but also includes bolts to secured it through the back of the console behind a panel. I took the time to install the extra bolts so I know it is very secure. I never worry about leaving valuables in there. It would take a lot of work to get into the box.

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