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Old 05-01-2014, 07:46 PM   #1
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tuner ? again

bully dog gt tuner or super chip trail dash ? anyone running or have ran either ? likes or dislikes about either one thanks in advance .

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I'm new to jeeping, so I'm curious to hear the answer. Seems to be either hate 'em or love 'em, from what I read when I search it out.

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Superchips Flashpaq is a pretty popular unit if you want something that gives you different octane tunes. If you just want to calibrate your tire size and a few other options without the engine tunes you can go with the Superchips Flashcal.

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Just for the record I would like to add:

After talking to Superchips for weeks. Download after download. Sending my Flashpac back to be reprogrammed by them along with my PCM.

When I got it back it trashed my transmission (electronically). At first my jeep would not start, after three "downloads" recommended by Flashpac it still did not work (that took a week) I was down and with only one vehicle to get to work with I had to borrow a ride.

Four weeks latter I just got my Jeep back from the dealer trying to find out what happened to it. To much to list what they did but in the end I would say

I WOULD NEVER PURCHASE A SUPERCHIP PRODUCT AGAIN EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!

SuperChips admitted to me that they did not have a working FlashPac for a 2014 Jeep automatic. Superchips fell off the face of the earth “NO HELP” from them after the last three attempts to fix the problem.

It got very difficult to deal with them and they did not fix the problem.

SHAME ON YOU SUPERCHIPS
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Just for the record I would like to add:

After talking to Superchips for weeks. Download after download. Sending my Flashpac back to be reprogrammed by them along with my PCM.

When I got it back it trashed my transmission (electronically). At first my jeep would not start, after three "downloads" recommended by Flashpac it still did not work (that took a week) I was down and with only one vehicle to get to work with I had to borrow a ride.

Four weeks latter I just got my Jeep back from the dealer trying to find out what happened to it. To much to list what they did but in the end I would say

I WOULD NEVER PURCHASE A SUPERCHIP PRODUCT AGAIN EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!

SuperChips admitted to me that they did not have a working FlashPac for a 2014 Jeep automatic. Superchips fell off the face of the earth “NO HELP” from them after the last three attempts to fix the problem.

It got very difficult to deal with them and they did not fix the problem.

SHAME ON YOU SUPERCHIPS
I'm sorry you're having such a problem with them. I've read of issues with the '14 tunes but I thought they had gotten it figured out. Apparently not yet! In the past they've been good about overnighting your tuner back and fourth to get things right and get the Jeep running again. Stay on top of them and they'll help you out. Sorry I can't do anything from my end.

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Thanks for the replies thus far . O F sorry to hear of your troubles . I have yet to read of any problems with bully dog stuff think I am going to start looking more serious into their product .
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I believe that the “People” at SuperChips are reading all the stuff. And they can’t reply because they don’t have an answer to the truth of what I and others are saying about there product.

I offered them a way out to “Fix” my jeep and they would not…….

So I replied to them with “you can fix my Jeep and I will sing you praises or you can ignore me in which case I will spent my time “trashing” your product until you come up with a solution to resolve this present situation.”

Which they have not even tried to resolve in a trustworthy manner, that any other company would do. Just to stand behind there “claims” of having a product that works in the 2014 JK Rubicon Automatic. Sometimes!

I would consider them to having no moral compass in fair business ethics.

Bottom line if you purchase it your the "SUCKER" they got your money.


The dealer spent two weeks installing new PCM, Transmission, Reflash, twice completely went through the ECM, PCM and all the transmission modules.

I read that it (FlashPac) does not change anything in the PCM. That is not true. It screwed mine up so bad it took a total replace. All new parts. Replaced.

SuperCRAP! Did not want to give me any money for any of the repairs.
And down time.

They did not “feel” Responsible. Even though everything worked fine until I plugged in the programmer. Easy to say to me you can’t prove it was us who did that. When in fact it has happened to many others the same way.

SuperCrap did send me my PCM and "told me it was good" another BS line from them. If it was "good" then why did they try to have me update it right after I got it from them??????? More BS from Superchip.

I can tell you why. Because it wasn't any good and they knew it, they were using me as a "test" they wanted my PCM program to further there sales. Which I consider that “STEALING” from them. All that just to say "we have a working" 2014 JK programmer when in the end they did not and to this day do not have a working program. Its your vehicle you can do what you think best as for me I would stay away.
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OP (2007) I've been ripping around draining gas pumps of 93 for over 2 years. Def feel the low end power bump turning my heavy 35's. Love my Flashpaq
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I will agree with this

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(2007) I've been ripping around draining gas pumps of 93 for over 2 years. Def feel the low end power bump turning my heavy 35's.
Love my Flashpaq
So 93 does good on your 3.8? Ive seem people mention that the higher octaine rates didn't make much difference on our engines. Ive considered trying 89 (87/89/93 in my area) with the 91 tune to see if there was aby difference
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I've been running a Traildash on my 2014 for a couple weeks now and couldn't be happier with it...
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So 93 does good on your 3.8? Ive seem people mention that the higher octaine rates didn't make much difference on our engines. Ive considered trying 89 (87/89/93 in my area) with the 91 tune to see if there was aby difference
With the 93 tune yes. I do have 4:10's which obviously help.
Stock 32's/4:10's first gear is very short. Almost not usable. I first ran the tune stock and did not feel any difference.
With 35's first gear last longer. (I can actually use it)
Add the tune, along with a first gear. The jeep pulls pretty good. I can still start in 2nd and not lug the engine.
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Alright guys ... Please stay on topic.
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I have the bullydog on my 2011 jku with 295 nittos and without regearing, could tell a little difference. I just regeared to 4.56 and the change is tremendous!! Bullydog is easy to program and i havent had any problems with changing settings for my jeep
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I've been running a Traildash on my 2014 for a couple weeks now and couldn't be happier with it...

Can you tell me the best feature it has and you can not do without and maybe the worst which its pointless to have . What about fuel economy
does it help any ?

Ironman same question for you also if you don't mind Thanks
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Can you tell me the best feature it has and you can not do without and maybe the worst which its pointless to have . What about fuel economy
does it help any ?

Ironman same question for you also if you don't mind Thanks
So to give you a little background, I had a Bullydog GT on my Nissan Titan and loved it. So when it came to getting a programmer for the Jeep, I pretty much had my heart set on the Bullydog again. MSRP on both is $499...well at Jeep Beach, the best Bullydog would do was $449 and 4WheelParts was selling the Traildash for $381 with a free dash mount, so I figured I'd give the Superchips a shot as it had a better and larger screen than the Bullydog as well.

As far as Fuel Economy, I was actually shocked, on my Titan, the Bullydog gave far better throttle response, but mileage stayed the same. With the Traildash, over the last 6-700 miles, I'm up 3 MPG with a better throttle response as well. I'm just running the 87 Octane tune with an automatic tranny.

The one thing the Superchips did do that was kind of aggravating was when I first installed it, the TPMS was messed up. Now all my tires show 0 PSI, but the light isn't on. I read that they came out with an update this week, but I haven't tried installing it yet.

As far as best and worst features? It's really hard to say for both programmers as they both offer a ton of monitoring options. Not sure about the Bullydog, but the Superchips does have an RCA input for a backup camera as well. If you have more specific questions, I'll be more than happy to answer them as best I can, but that's about all I have for now...lol
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my fuel mileage went up when i installed my bullydog about 1.5 mpg to 17.5 and even after my regear, my mileage stayed the same. The best features about bullydog are how easy the parameters are to change on the programmer; i really dont have a negative because it has all the features i was looking for to upgrade my performance
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bully dog gt tuner or super chip trail dash ? anyone running or have ran either ? likes or dislikes about either one thanks in advance .
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So you can connect a rear camera with the flashpaq trail dash?
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So you can connect a rear camera with the flashpaq trail dash?
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So what did you end up with?



So you can connect a rear camera with the flashpaq trail dash?
Have not made my mind up yet , been playing with the Harley while I still research this . To tell the truth I am not sure I trust these programmers .
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I believe that the “People” at SuperChips are reading all the stuff. And they can’t reply because they don’t have an answer to the truth of what I and others are saying about there product. I offered them a way out to “Fix” my jeep and they would not……. So I replied to them with “you can fix my Jeep and I will sing you praises or you can ignore me in which case I will spent my time “trashing” your product until you come up with a solution to resolve this present situation.” Which they have not even tried to resolve in a trustworthy manner, that any other company would do. Just to stand behind there “claims” of having a product that works in the 2014 JK Rubicon Automatic. Sometimes! I would consider them to having no moral compass in fair business ethics. Bottom line if you purchase it your the "SUCKER" they got your money. The dealer spent two weeks installing new PCM, Transmission, Reflash, twice completely went through the ECM, PCM and all the transmission modules. I read that it (FlashPac) does not change anything in the PCM. That is not true. It screwed mine up so bad it took a total replace. All new parts. Replaced. SuperCRAP! Did not want to give me any money for any of the repairs. And down time. They did not “feel” Responsible. Even though everything worked fine until I plugged in the programmer. Easy to say to me you can’t prove it was us who did that. When in fact it has happened to many others the same way. SuperCrap did send me my PCM and "told me it was good" another BS line from them. If it was "good" then why did they try to have me update it right after I got it from them??????? More BS from Superchip. I can tell you why. Because it wasn't any good and they knew it, they were using me as a "test" they wanted my PCM program to further there sales. Which I consider that “STEALING” from them. All that just to say "we have a working" 2014 JK programmer when in the end they did not and to this day do not have a working program. Its your vehicle you can do what you think best as for me I would stay away.
I think something went severely wrong with yours. I have owned a Cortex for my Hummer, a flash cal for my TJ and now the Traildash for my 2014 JKURX and have loved them all. Just installed the backup camera in the JKURX and it works good but you have to cycle through the screens if you want to see the camera which is kind of a nuance. I probably would not purchase the Traildash unless you have a rubicon. Most of the features of the Traildash are geared for a Rubi.
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As far as Fuel Economy, I was actually shocked, on my Titan, the Bullydog gave far better throttle response, but mileage stayed the same. With the Traildash, over the last 6-700 miles, I'm up 3 MPG with a better throttle response as well. I'm just running the 87 Octane tune with an automatic tranny.
What tune and octane got you the mpg gain?
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What tune and octane got you the mpg gain?
I'm just running the 87 Octane. I've now had it on for almost 2000 miles, but I've been driving harder. With a heavy foot, I'm still up 2-3 MPG. I'm averaging 16.5-17 overall now.
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I'm just running the 87 Octane. I've now had it on for almost 2000 miles, but I've been driving harder. With a heavy foot, I'm still up 2-3 MPG. I'm averaging 16.5-17 overall now.
Is that with the mpg tune then?
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Is that with the mpg tune then?
87 is a tune.......there is also a fuel saver tune but last time I tried it on a flashpack model you used more gas putting your foot in the accelerator. The 87 has saved me a couple mpg also but you vehicle is a bit more responsive causing you to be somewhat of a leadfoot more often.
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Yes, just the 87 octane tune, not the fuel saver...
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87 tune is what I run, gas stations here dont sell 91, they have 89 as their mid-grade so thought about running that with the 91 tune to see if there was any difference. Haven't tried the Tow tune yet which I know some here like
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I tried tow, didn't like it at all...

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