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Old 08-27-2014, 12:32 PM   #1
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wabbly steering

Ever since installing a tall lift and 35's, the steering feels wabbly, especially at 60mph+. Steering is very soft, unresponsive. I don't expect it to perform like a sport car, but it's very stressful to drive the Jeep on the highway, every little bump seems to throw the car off. Is there a mod to correct this issue? A steering damper or stabilizer, and a really good one? Anything else to get that heavy steering feel and no wobble?

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How much lift, what brand, what components were replaced. Sounds like a caster issue, but more info is needed to help.

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Ever since installing a tall lift and 35's, the steering feels wabbly, especially at 60mph+. Steering is very soft, unresponsive. I don't expect it to perform like a sport car, but it's very stressful to drive the Jeep on the highway, every little bump seems to throw the car off. Is there a mod to correct this issue? A steering damper or stabilizer, and a really good one? Anything else to get that heavy steering feel and no wobble?
A coworker had a similar complaint after lifting and did a dry steering test to find that his Track Bar was flexing. I would check castor if you're feeling flightiness, but do a dry steering test to check for loose/worn/weak components. Let me know what questions you have or if you'd like a quote!

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Newby's guide to lifting your JK

^^^Read this!

It sounds like you have a Caster, and maybe Toe Issue, plus you will just need to get use to the larger tires, not holding the road as well!!
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How much lift, what brand, what components were replaced. Sounds like a caster issue, but more info is needed to help.

Sky Jacker 2.5-3.5 suspension lift (resulted close to 4" lift), 35's Nitto Trailgrapplers. Replaced the track bar with adjustible one, did a DYI alignment...maybe should do a pro computerized one.
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Sky Jacker 2.5-3.5 suspension lift (resulted close to 4" lift), 35's Nitto Trailgrapplers. Replaced the track bar with adjustible one, did a DYI alignment...maybe should do a pro computerized one.
Yeah I would guess caster, see what numbers the alignment gives you. Then will need to fix with at least the correction brackets. I am no expert though, see what others say also.
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Would I have to redo the alignment if I installed both of these compononets? If yes, then might as well get both of these, install them, and then do a pro alignment, so I don't end up paying for 2 alignments.
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Well,

I chased this problem for months.

Was it caster? Not really...small contributor.

Was it alignment? No

Steering Stabalizer? NO NO NO..your could get the Fox ATS and mask it I guess for $345

Steering Geomentry? Yes.....90% of the problem.\

I would not get the correction brackets.....its the lazy fix.

You need a flip kit if your at 4" of lift. This will flip the draglink and raise the track bar at the axel to correct steering geometry.

I installed the Teraflex HD flip kit which lowers the TB at the frame, this corrected the bump steer and some flighty, loose, soft steering issue.

I actually raised the TB at the axle also and resolved 99% of the steering issues.
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Newby's guide to lifting your JK ^^^Read this! It sounds like you have a Caster, and maybe Toe Issue, plus you will just need to get use to the larger tires, not holding the road as well!!
Thanks but I'm going with this

Balancing a tire and wheel, with Road Force and tire truing

OP ... Did your kit come with any sort of caster (cam bolts/plates, drop brackets or lower/upper/both control arms ?
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I don't think caster is your problem. Will it cause a flighty ride at speed ? Yes
If you're having wobbles .. It's something else.
Caster correction will only help to improve ride.
Jeep Jk, Caster and lifting.
I HIGHLY Recommend a alignment to see exactly where you are. Do not guess and start throwing parts at the jeep.
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Amy time you mess with the front end you need an alignment.
your tires were flat where they were and by lifting 4 inches you changed the angle the tires contact the road.
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Ahh... It's four in the morning and I'm reading about wobbly jeep issues. Where's my coffee.
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ahh... It's four in the morning and i'm reading about wobbly jeep issues. Where's my coffee.
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had the alignment done, problem solved, no more shaking, good steering response, heavier steering. What would be the advantage of installing an after-market steering stabilizer? Would the wheel feel a bit heavier? I'm used to the heavy and responsive BMW steering, would be great if I could get the Jeep close to that.
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had the alignment done, problem solved, no more shaking, good steering response, heavier steering. What would be the advantage of installing an after-market steering stabilizer? Would the wheel feel a bit heavier? I'm used to the heavy and responsive BMW steering, would be great if I could get the Jeep close to that.
Was your toe out of spec ?

The difference between our jeep and a BMW is about 6 degrees caster, maybe more.
Read the link above on caster.
Jk = 4-5* stock.
BMW is probably set up at 10-11* caster.

A HD stabilizer will tighten the feel over bumps. Not Necessary straight line handling. Some stabs have a high pressure gas charge which can cause a left push.
Caster returns the steering when you come out of a turn. A stab will just help damping impacts.

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