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Old 08-25-2014, 02:24 AM   #1
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Warn Zeon or VR series?

Is it worth it to spring for the Zeon over the VR line? For anyone with the Zeon that detached the convertible control pack, where did you mount it?

Is it worth it to go with 10,000 over 8,000 pulling power?

Getting my Barricade HD front bumper installed tomorrow and i'll buy my winch later this week. The Zeons look awesome but are pricey (for me). If the Zeon 10,000 will serve me that much better then i'll go for it. I'm going to be doing intermediate off-roading and definitely want a winch that won't let me down whether it's to pull myself or someone else. But if 8,000 will consistently get the job done then i'll save a few dollars for other mods

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Old 08-25-2014, 06:11 AM   #2
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I have no experience with warn, but I do know 8000 pounds is fine. Rule of thumb is 1.5 X your weight.

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Old 08-25-2014, 06:15 AM   #3
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What's the landscape around you? Will you playing in mud? If so, the mud will add extra "weight". I know a lot of people go 8k and do fine. I'm going with the 10k zeon 10-s....a winch is something is rather have a little extra. Also, if you're planning on bumpers and armor ect that 8k start becoming closer and closer.
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Old 08-25-2014, 06:42 AM   #4
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I had the warn M8000. Pretty much the same as the VR series. It worked just fine, but that was on my old 2door YJ. Now I've got the Zeon 12. I decided on this one mainly because of the slick look. I liked how it sorta matches the look of the jeep. Blends in better in my opinion than the "standard" looking winch. Plus, it was only $120 more than the VR from work, we are a distributor, so I get cost on warn products. I also have the wireless controller. Wouldn't look back. I've got more than enough power for anything I could possible get myself into. And it looks good too!
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Old 08-25-2014, 07:09 AM   #5
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^Nice. I'm going back and forth between the 10-s and 12. Part of me says go big or go home and the other part of me says 10-s saves me some weight up front and has a longer rope.
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i love my zeon 10-s... but they are pricey.
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Old 08-25-2014, 07:28 AM   #7
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I have a vr10000s my only gripe is they are not made in the USA.
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Old 08-25-2014, 08:01 AM   #8
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You could always put the synthetic cable on the zeon 12 and drop 30lbs off the weight. This is also with the aluminum fair lead. I think the wire rope is 28lbs??? And shipped weight of the zeon 12 is 98lbs. And the shipped weight of the 10s is 75 lbs.
with unknown variables such as packaging and hardware and such, which should be mostly the same. That will clock the weights in at almost the same. And I say that loosely.
But this does mean you would have to spend an extra $100 on the synthetic line plus an aluminum fair lead or poly rollers. I don't know what retail is of the line, that's what I would pay at work.
So is the price worth the extra 2000lbs? Probably not for the average light off roader. But if you can snag it for a deal. Then why not?

I think the general rule for which sizes is the weight of vehicle plus half.
A 10,000lbs is more than enough.
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Old 08-25-2014, 08:12 AM   #9
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I have the Zeon 8S and I'm satisfied... but I think the 10S is only about $100 more.
Sometimes I kind of kick myself for not springing for the extra power. Also, I've read somewhere it's the same motor as the 8, it's just geared lower for the extra pulling power, but more importantly the 10 draws fewer amps than the 8. That would've swayed me if I had known that before I bought.
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Old 08-25-2014, 12:15 PM   #10
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You could always put the synthetic cable on the zeon 12 and drop 30lbs off the weight. This is also with the aluminum fair lead. I think the wire rope is 28lbs??? And shipped weight of the zeon 12 is 98lbs. And the shipped weight of the 10s is 75 lbs.
with unknown variables such as packaging and hardware and such, which should be mostly the same. That will clock the weights in at almost the same. And I say that loosely.
But this does mean you would have to spend an extra $100 on the synthetic line plus an aluminum fair lead or poly rollers. I don't know what retail is of the line, that's what I would pay at work.
So is the price worth the extra 2000lbs? Probably not for the average light off roader. But if you can snag it for a deal. Then why not?

I think the general rule for which sizes is the weight of vehicle plus half.
A 10,000lbs is more than enough.

So get a 12 and put synthetic rope on it? I read some threads about blue rope or blue something (maybe going crazy) that could hold 18k lbs. That would pair well with the 12.
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Old 08-25-2014, 01:50 PM   #11
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So get a 12 and put synthetic rope on it? I read some threads about blue rope or blue something (maybe going crazy) that could hold 18k lbs. That would pair well with the 12.
You can get coloured rope from quadratec. Just go with what their chart says. And it's just an option. It will cut the weight down to almost that of the 10s.
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Old 08-25-2014, 02:55 PM   #12
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I have the 10s on my JKUR and love it! I can't really speak to the VR series but when deciding between the Zeon 8 and 10 I decided that with the extra weight of the 4-door and the thought of pulling a bigger truck out of the mud, I'd rather have more than less. I've only used it twice so far, but both times I pulled a 4-door F350 long bed out of the mud and up a hill (different guys, different trucks, on different trips. Just a coincidence that they were the same make and model). I was thoroughly pleased with the Zeon choice.

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Old 08-25-2014, 06:58 PM   #13
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Its all gears. 8s is faster but not as strong. 10s is slower but more pulling power. Speed versus power is what it comes down to.

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