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Old 06-03-2014, 06:04 AM   #1
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16" or 17" 2004 Wrangler

I have a 2004 Wrangler TJ. I want to up size to 16" or 17" rims. I have been running 15x10 wth 33x12.5.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

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Old 06-03-2014, 06:52 AM   #2
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Why? Tires are more expensive and selection of tires is reduced for larger wheels.

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Old 06-03-2014, 09:38 AM   #3
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Stick with 15" it looks a lot better. Unless you plan on running 37" tires or bigger, then go with a 17". But other wise just stick with a 15".
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Does anyone have any suggestions?
Yes, ditch the 10" wide wheels and get some 15x8's. Unless as stated above you are going to move up to 37's.

Most tires for 16" come in E load range, which is a but stiffer sidewall than the C load range that works best on a TJ. I had 16" MTR/K's on my LJ from the previous owner and I took them off as soon as I could.
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17" wheels actually look fantastic on TJ's with 33's but I wouldn't recommend them with tires smaller than that. That still leaves you with plenty of sidewall. After getting used to 17" wheels, 15's just look too small on TJ's now.....they make the body appear porkier than it is. The larger wheel really balances the aesthetics, for lack of a better explanation.
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Imped, you don't find the sidewall to be lacking in flex with 17" and 33" tires? I know that "plus sizing" methodology places that combo in the range of "working" but my experience with ~32's on 16" wheels was less than stellar.
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I personally would only run a 15x8 wheel with 33x12.50 tires. I wouldn't even consider any of the other sizes mentioned for that size tire.
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Dont go 16 it is the odd size out. Tires come at a premium and they are less sizes to choose from. Go 15 or 17. I have 16s now and regret it, ill be going to 17s soon due to clearance limitationsm
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you want at minimum equal amounts of rubber and rim. better is to have more rubber.

so if your going to run a 17 youll want a 35
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Imped, you don't find the sidewall to be lacking in flex with 17" and 33" tires? I know that "plus sizing" methodology places that combo in the range of "working" but my experience with ~32's on 16" wheels was less than stellar.
I haven't seen any issues with that combination but none of the wheeling I've seen those particular people do was terribly tough.....rock gardens on the more mild side, rock ledges, and wooded trails. The use of 17" wheels also allows the use of the biggest brake kit Blaine (Black Magic Brakes) sells for TJ's. Those brakes with 33's would be awesome.
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I haven't seen any issues with that combination but none of the wheeling I've seen those particular people do was terribly tough.....rock gardens on the more mild side, rock ledges, and wooded trails. The use of 17" wheels also allows the use of the biggest brake kit Blaine (Black Magic Brakes) sells for TJ's. Those brakes with 33's would be awesome.
I imagine the 17" BBK would be insane! I'm hoping to be happy with the 15" kit on my LJ when I go to 33's. Still working my way down my list though, and the rest of the suspension and TT is priority at the moment. I'm completely satisfied with my 15" wheels and hope to be so for the duration, though only time and experience will tell for sure.
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Thanks to everyone who posted.... Lots of help and Ideas. Scraping the 16"s, now just gotta deside if its 17"'s or 15"s

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Go for 15's for that size tire, 17" is too big for only a 33" tire that is taken offroad. For a mall Jeep, it doesn't matter.
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When I first got my TJ two months ago I was thinking 16" or 17" wheels. I soon realized a 15x8 would be a much better choice. Since I'm planning on a 32x11.5 tire a 15x8 wheel is the ideal choice for me & for the OP.
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I have 16's and at my next tire purchase am seriously considering buying new 15" wheels. Last tire purchase, I paid about $250 total more just because of the 16" rims.
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I personally would only run a 15x8 wheel with 33x12.50 tires. I wouldn't even consider any of the other sizes mentioned for that size tire.
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Go for 15's for that size tire, 17" is too big for only a 33" tire that is taken offroad. For a mall Jeep, it doesn't matter.
Did you forget you already posted? "Offroad" is not always giant rocks that need 5psi tire pressures on beadlock wheels. 1" of extra sidewall is hardly going to be noticeable.
I agree with imped that 17s look better with 33"+ tires.
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what size tires are you talking about????

I have a 04 LJ with 30x9.50r15s on them.
I bought some 05 Rubicon 16 inch wheels.
My plan is to go with 265/75r16s


Just looking at local tire kingdom
30x9.5r15 BFG AT (all they got in stock in that size) $150 ea
265/75/16 - Cooper At $115 each

Heck, I can get no name cheap ones for $98 each (Mesa AP)

Now lets bump up to 31x10.50r15's = cheapest is $117
The same Mesa AP tire in 31 inch size is $149


I suppose it all boils down to what you intend to do with your jeep.

Right now I guess you call my jeep a MALL jeep cause I don't take it offroad. Its just a DD for me right now.
I want the 16 inch Ruby wheels because they are newer looking and the tires are cheaper for the size I want. (basically 32 inch)
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265/75/16
Look at the load range of all the tires in that size. They are E, which is extremely stiff for a TJ. I have an LJ with a hardtop and winch, I couldn't wait to get those heavy stuff tires off of it. I had good MTR/K's too, damn shame really because those are good tires.
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There are some load range e's but the tire I want isn't a e and its just $98

If you get a LT then your gonna get a load range e tire. A P series tire normally aren't load range e
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You folks must be strong men. I have a time lifting my 31 inch tires on the Jeep with factory aluminum rims. I figured if I purchased anything else I'd better have AAA or a friend along for the ride as the Jeep is to small to carry a shop crane inside to lift off the spare.
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The 265/75R16 you posted is approximately 10.4 x 31.6 so it would be closer (in size) to the 31 x 10.50.
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You folks must be strong men. I have a time lifting my 31 inch tires on the Jeep with factory aluminum rims. I figured if I purchased anything else I'd better have AAA or a friend along for the ride as the Jeep is to small to carry a shop crane inside to lift off the spare.
There's a right way to mount tires and a wrong way. Using the right way, I can mount a 37" tire onto my Jeep faster and with less exertion than when mounting a tiny tire onto my Honda the wrong way.

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