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Old 11-21-2012, 06:33 PM   #1
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Ive tried 4 brands of seats got new shocks the factory style and this thing rides like a shit brick wall. My dad and i have bad backs and this thing either gets better or im selling it . Should i go back to stock seats it has 112000 miles drives like new! Help

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Old 11-21-2012, 06:43 PM   #2
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The most popular brand of shocks are rancho 9000xl and bilstein 5100s. *waits for others opinions on each*

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Old 11-21-2012, 06:52 PM   #3
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You bought a Jeep when you had a bad back? What did you expect?!
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Old 11-21-2012, 10:45 PM   #4
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I never guessed they rode like that. Big mistake on my part. I have a1 ton ford with an 8 inch lift that rides 10 times better than this thing had truck before back issues got jeep after thinking it would be a decent rig to get around in im shocked at ho horrible it rides offroad it feels like it has zero suspension wish i could fix it somehow but it needs more than shocks.
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Old 11-22-2012, 12:40 AM   #5
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Short wheel base vehicles don't ride all that great and with a jeep you're basically sitting over the rear axle which doesn't help things. I had a NEW 07 single cab short bed ram and to me my TJ rides a lot better than that POS...I can't explain why other than that truck had issues in general.
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Wow!

I have a bad back also, 100% disability, and my '01 TJ never rode so rough it messed with my back! Totally stock except the 31 inch wheels.

I could ride in my Jeep all day and the only discomfort I ever felt was simply from setting all day!
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Old 11-22-2012, 07:37 AM   #7
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How much air do you run in the tires?
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:02 AM   #8
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I don't have a bad back.....I have heard from both camps about the ride of a Jeep. The Jeep will not ride like a Buick (supposedly one of the smoothest cars) however some of it is relative. I know a woman who was in a car wreck, on disability for her back, who felt more comfortable on long trips in my '04 TJ than her WJ Grand Cherokee.

That being said...I have 33x12.50 Duratracs on 15" rims, wider footprint lots of sidewall running about 28psi. I also have an OME suspension that is better (smoother) than stock. I installed a seat heater and that helps her back "relax" when the muscles tense because of pain.....I also added lower lumbar support in the stock seat when I added the heater.

Bottom line IMO it is somewhat relative....how much/ how smooth does your ride need to be to be comfortable? Some people can "put up with" the ride just to be in a Jeep....have a good Day!!
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Old 11-22-2012, 11:53 AM   #9
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Well its just tooth jarring and yes im on 100 percent disabled to but man i love my jeep there has to be something
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Old 11-22-2012, 12:04 PM   #10
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Find some Sahara seats. They have WAY more cushioning than the regular ones. Mine is a 2000 Sahara and has the tan leather seats with the sahara emblem sewn into the head part. Super comfy. I also run on 33x12.5x15 and a Rancho lift, mine floats over the potholes in the city.
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Where can i find a nice set of sahara seats? Or can i have the stockers redone eith more padding put in
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Well its just tooth jarring and yes im on 100 percent disabled to but man i love my jeep there has to be something
Tooth jarring?!! Holy stuff!!

Are the shocks froze/seized? Extra heavy duty springs, coils or anything? You're right. It HAS to be something.

Can't believe the ride can be THAT rough. Wow, again!!
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Ive tried 4 brands of seats got new shocks the factory style and this thing rides like a shit brick wall. My dad and i have bad backs and this thing either gets better or im selling it . Should i go back to stock seats it has 112000 miles drives like new! Help
Atthehop already asked but you didn't answer so I'll ask again... exactly/precisely what air pressure is in your tires and exactly what size are they?

Next, what brand and model shocks did you install?

Invariably, a bad/stiff ride is always the fault of either the wrong shocks, excessively high tire pressure, or a combination of them both.

P.S. Are your tires Load Range C, D, or E? That info is on the sidewall.

If you answer all of the above questions, we can tell you what to do to cure your overly stiff ride.
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Old 11-22-2012, 10:33 PM   #14
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32pounds air pressure, 30x10.50x15 bf goodrich at, les schwab mountain rider shocks. Everything else stock also its the sport edition.
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32pounds air pressure, 30x10.50x15 bf goodrich at, les schwab mountain rider shocks. Everything else stock also its the sport edition.
You forgot load range on the tires, a pretty important factor in evaluating ride quality.
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32pounds air pressure, 30x10.50x15 bf goodrich at, les schwab mountain rider shocks. Everything else stock also its the sport edition.
And the air pressure your running. I have the same tires and run 25-26 PSI cold.
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I've got an 04 tj with 4" lift and 33" Mickey Thompson's. I had back surgery a couple years ago and now there wanting to do a spinal fusion and my jeep doesn't bother my back at all. Except for the usual pain. Lol.
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Old 11-23-2012, 07:19 AM   #18
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32pounds air pressure, 30x10.50x15 bf goodrich at, les schwab mountain rider shocks. Everything else stock also its the sport edition.
I must have missed this post. 32 lbs is way too much. Try 25-26 lbs cold. That's what I run and the ride is much better. Tire shops always fill the tire to the max and I air them down when I get home and then check it first thing in the morning before the tires get hot.
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Old 11-23-2012, 09:01 AM   #19
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Where are you guys getting 30X10.50 BFG's? I've never even heard of that size tire.
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Pretty much anywhere you can get BFG tires. It's one of their common sizes.
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32pounds air pressure, 30x10.50x15 bf goodrich at, les schwab mountain rider shocks. Everything else stock also its the sport edition.
32 psi is fine, though I'd probably run 30 myself. My bet is those Mountain Rider shocks are the reason for the stiff ride. Your springs have nothing to do with your extra-stiff ride, the tire pressure is fine, that leaves the shocks which have more to do with ride quality than anything else. If you like a fairly cushy ride and don't want to spend a lot of $$$, the Skyjacker Hydro (not Nitro!!) shock gives a good ride. If you have the $$$ to go with a better shock, it's hard to beat the adjustable Rancho R9000xl or Old Man Emu Nitrocharger.
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I cant seem to find ome shocks for stock height ! Are they bettr than ranchos?
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I can't say they're better than the Rancho R9000xl, both are very good. If OME doesn't make them for unlifted TJs, and they may not, then I'd go with the Rancho R9000xl. Don't let them talk you into a different Rancho shock like the R5000 which is too stiff for a Wrangler.

The neat thing about the Rancho R9000xl is it has 9 stiffness settings (via a knob) you can choose from to match your needs... all the way from soft to harder than you'd like.
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I hope les schwab will help me out on somr credit for these mountain riders that i hate!
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Pretty much anywhere you can get BFG tires. It's one of their common sizes.
No, 30X9.50, or 31X10.50 . There is no 30X10.50
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You're right, I misread it.
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I'm going to give a big for the Rancho 9000XL. I wasn't sure how soft or stiff I would prefer my shocks to be and with good shocks costing the money they do, I figured I'd get them so I could find my comfort range. After a few weeks of driving around in different conditions I was able to get them dialed in just perfect for me. I also adjust them differently for offroad. On the super soft setting my Jeep will rock slighty back and forth when stopping and the stiffest setting feels like my old SkyCrapper hydros.
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Old 11-24-2012, 01:10 PM   #28
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Ordered a set of rancho 9000xl last night thanks guys! Also going to have stock seats redone with more padding.
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Ordered a set of rancho 9000xl last night thanks guys! Also going to have stock seats redone with more padding.
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i have a 2 inch budget boost. if i get the rancho's do i get the 2.5 inch or the stock height shocks?

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