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Old 02-28-2006, 01:55 AM   #1
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2005 Wrangler Tow hook install problems

Hey guys...I feel like a little wuss asking....but here it goes.
I just purchased my first new vehicle (2005 Wrangler SE) and got some front tow hooks off of ebay. I've tried to take the screws off the front bumper using an 8mm allen wrench but can't budge the bolts to save my life. I'm a pretty big guy, lift weights quite frequently....am I missing something or just a girley-man? It seems so easy, I just hope my dad doesn't see this....he'll disown me.......

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Hey guys...I feel like a little wuss asking....but here it goes.
I just purchased my first new vehicle (2005 Wrangler SE) and got some front tow hooks off of ebay. I've tried to take the screws off the front bumper using an 8mm allen wrench but can't budge the bolts to save my life. I'm a pretty big guy, lift weights quite frequently....am I missing something or just a girley-man? It seems so easy, I just hope my dad doesn't see this....he'll disown me.......
is it definitely an allen wrench?, mine are huge torx bits. They are grade 8 bolts and are real beefy, so you can use a breaker bar if need be.

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yes they are torx bolts I think a in the range of T-50 to -t-60 as I recall.. Go to sears or local tool store get your self a set going from around T-10 upto T-65 ish an you should be good to go as you will find more of these little wonders around your jeep. Also when you put the new bolts in use anti-sieze (spelling, I before e always gets me..lol) coating that way if you need to get them off it will be easier.
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Old 02-28-2006, 11:10 AM   #4
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The tow hooks use a T55. A lot of torx sets don't go up to a T55, if this is the case make sure you pick up a 55 as well. You will need a 55 in various places around the Jeep.
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Don't all new jeeps come with tow hooks already on the front bumper?
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The front bumper is held on by T-55 torx-head bolts, not allen head bolts. Go to the tool department of Sears or other store and get yourself a set of Torx adapters, but you'll have to buy the T-55 separately as that size isn't normally included with sets of torx adapters. You'll need the rest of them for all kinds of parts on your TJ.

And SouthTJ, front tow hooks only come when the dealer orders them with their new Jeeps, they're not standard equipment. My TJ didn't come with them either.
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Hey guys...I feel like a little wuss asking....but here it goes.
I just purchased my first new vehicle (2005 Wrangler SE) and got some front tow hooks off of ebay. I've tried to take the screws off the front bumper using an 8mm allen wrench but can't budge the bolts to save my life. I'm a pretty big guy, lift weights quite frequently....am I missing something or just a girley-man? It seems so easy, I just hope my dad doesn't see this....he'll disown me.......
There are no Jeep wusses....only those looking for enlightenment & education

Welcome to the forum, good luck with your new purchase and I won't tell Dad a thing
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Old 03-01-2006, 11:10 PM   #8
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Thanks Guys

The T55 torx socket worked like a charm. Thank you to all that responded. Happy 4x4ing.
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Tow hooks on TJ!

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Don't all new jeeps come with tow hooks already on the front bumper?
The Wrangler SE 4 Banger and X do not come with tow hook from the factory in the base package you can order them as an OEM option.

If your Jeep cam without Tow Hooks you will need longer T55 bolts to get a secure instal.

They are Standard on Sport, Sahara and Rubicon.
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The Wrangler SE 4 Banger and X do not come with tow hook from the factory in the base package you can order them as an OEM option.

If your Jeep cam without Tow Hooks you will need longer T55 bolts to get a secure instal.

They are Standard on Sport, Sahara and Rubicon.
Any idea where to get these LONGER torque bolts??? Mopar only sells the hooks and bolts together.
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Any idea where to get these LONGER torque bolts??? Mopar only sells the hooks and bolts together.
No need to stay with Torx head bolts, in fact it'd be pretty tough to find them in the length you need. Just go with Grade 8 hex-head bolts available at most bolt-specialty stores... and very few Home Depot type stores. Remove one of your T-55 torx-head bolts and just say you want a 1" longer version of it in a Grade 5 but with a hex-head.
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just a bit of useless knowledge the rubicon was going to have tow hooks as an option. also do you really want to chance it using grade 5 bolts on a place thats going to be gerked and pulled on?

im not bolt expert but wouldnt you want a bit of over kill in that department.

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do you really want to chance it using grade 5 bolts on a place thats going to be gerked and pulled on?

im not bolt expert but wouldnt you want a bit of over kill in that department.
Did someone recommend Grade 5? But even though I recommended Grade 8, I personally feel that Grade 5 bolts work fine in that location too.
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I just put my tow hooks on today (pointy side in), the bolts were included. How do you know what grade they are?
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By the level of education they had.............oh no, not again? Not another retoracle statement.? Just kidding, the bolts generally have a number on them, that designates there strength.
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So many wisea**es in such a small area.

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the bolts generally have a number on them, that designates there strength.
They have marks but no numbers on the bolt head. 3 marks indicates a Grade 5, 6 marks indicates a Grade 8.

Grade 5


Grade 8
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Hmmm... that makes A LOT of sense .

Thanks for the help.
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Yeah.. I picked up some grade 8 allen top bolts...worked like a charm. No lines but I knew about them.
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So, eh... just snapped the end of my torque wrench trying to get this off to install my front hooks (longest handle I had available). Is there a way to get these off WITHOUT spending another $200 on tools?
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Go get a long breaker bar, they're inexpensive. I just use a couple different lengths I picked up inexpensively at my local Harbor Freight Tools store. Or of course Sears, Lowes, Home Depot also carries them.
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I used my wrench and the handle of my hi lift jack as an extension to break the bolts loose on my bumper.
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The handle of the jack was my first thought, but it didn't pay off (these bad boys were ON there). In another thread I found the recommendation of PB Blaster. Using that, my dead torque wrench, and a length of pipe that could pass for a fence post, they came right out (with a fair amount of brute force and brute freakin' ignorance). I actually had to *tighten* them to get them to come out. BUT! My happy new recovery points are in place and I'm ready to wheel!
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Yeah PB blaster or some kind of oil. Let it sit for a several minutes and it will seep in there and help. Don't strip the head - that will make it worse.
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Well, the good news is the hooks came with their own hardware... bad news is they're Allen screws, which I hate. Oh well, with any luck, I won't be using them after today.
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Ace has the allen head bolts in black too! I put them on my heep.
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glad to hear it worked for ya. sounds like a lot of work for a 5 minute project. lol.
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Im learning that with my jeep - nothing is ever as easy, or goes as smoothly, as it looks like it should. Something about my relative inexperience at playin mechanic combined with rusted bolts and the occasional jerry-rigged home solution (thanks for that btw previous owner....).
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glad to hear it worked for ya. sounds like a lot of work for a 5 minute project. lol.

This is par for the course with me. Not just the Jeep. You hear those horror stories about credit card screw-ups, 1-in-1000 medical errors, bizarre miscalculations by government agencies... that's all me.

Example: On my 18th birthday, I went to the post office and registered for selective service. Two months later, I got a card in the mail telling me to register. I knew I had, but for good measure, I filled it out and returned it. I'd guess about 6 months later I got a nasty-gram from selective service telling me I needed to register. Well, I figured something had gone wrong the first two times and just filled it out and returned it. Shortly after my 19th birthday, I got a VERY nasty, threatening letter about my not having registered, yet. I called. I have two first names (that is to say, my last name is a common first name, and my first name is a common last name). After arguing with the person on the phone for about 10 minutes, I asked if they were able to search for me using my social security number. They did, and lo and behold, I'm registered... 3 times. I said, "I'm going to fill this one out for good measure and send it back -- try to get it right."

I finally excepted that I'm cursed and life is fixed, so now I just go with it.


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