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Old 06-24-2014, 07:30 PM   #1
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4 inch suspension lift ideas

I'm considering a 4 inch suspension lift and a body lift for my '01 TJ. I just started working so I can afford something, but nothing too out of reach or making my wallet beg for mercy. I'm open to all advice and thanks in advance.

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A 4" suspension lift done the right way will wind up costing you pretty major $'s because when you go that high, driveline angles have to be addressed. That is normally done with a slip yoke eliminator, a double cardan drive shaft, rear adjustable control arms yada yada. If you are on a tight budget, you would be much better off to go with a 3" suspension lift, and an 1.25" body lift. Drive line angles can be addressed with a 1" motor mount lift. There are kits that are available to do exactly that. One is the Zone 4.25" combo lift which is a good bang for your buck lift...here: Zone Offroad 4-1/4" Combo System 97-06 Jeep Wrangler TJ J25/J26

Even a better one but pricier is the OME Ultimate lift..here: Old Man Emu Ultimate TJ/LJ Wrangler Kit | dpgoffroad.com

If you go with the Zone lift, I recommend adding a good adjustable front track bar like this one: TJ/LJ Jeep Wrangler Solid Chromoly Front Track Bar

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I think I'm going with Zone offroad one.
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best 4" thread ever
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The Zone 4.25" combo kit is really tough to beat for its price and quality for what most of us need. If you are hardcore and got the money, there is better options out there. I am very happy with the kit onroad and offroad!
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The Zone 4.25" combo kit is really tough to beat for its price and quality for what most of us need. If you are hardcore and got the money, there is better options out there. I am very happy with the kit onroad and offroad!
Thanks so much! That just made my deciding process a whole lot easier.
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Here's a few pictures of one with the Zone kit for you.
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Ok now I'm set on getting it. Out of curiosity, what other things are necessary for the kit if I do purchase the Zone kit.
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Ok now I'm set on getting it. Out of curiosity, what other things are necessary for the kit if I do purchase the Zone kit.
Nothing really for the lift, but I would add the track bar mentioned above.

A Novak shift cable is a nice upgrade, but not necessary. Novak's 231 & 242 Cable Shifter Kit

Going to larger tires, you would most likely want/need to have your axles regeared. Depending on what engine/transmission/gearing you have now, you might be okay for a while, but you'll eventually want to do it anyway.
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Like the others said, going over 3" of suspension lift will leave you with driveline issues if not addressed and or an extra expense to do it properly.

Heck, depending on what size tire you want to run 35" tall tires can go on a TJ with a 2" lift and flat fenders. There are many styles, shapes, sizes etc. to choose from.

Set your goals, then choose the way that best meets your needs...

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Like the others said, going over 3" of suspension lift will leave you with driveline issues if not addressed and or an extra expense to do it properly.

Heck, depending on what size tire you want to run 35" tall tires can go on a TJ with a 2" lift and flat fenders. There are many styles, shapes, sizes etc. to choose from.

Set your goals, then choose the way that best meets your needs...

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I am considering going on 35"
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You'll need to address brakes if you go to 35's
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You'll need to address brakes if you go to 35's
What exactly do I have to address? Thanks again.
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before you start adding up all the parts to run 35's, are your axles strong enough?

if you have a d35 rear, you may want to consider sticking to 33's.
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What exactly do I have to address? Thanks again.
Think rolling mass. Bicycle brakes are still brakes but would you use them to slow your car? A little extreme I know, but trying to paint a picture. Stock brakes are fine for the stock wheel/tire combination. You start going bigger than that you will reach a limit on what is safe. I run 33's and can't stop like I can in my other car.
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Think rolling mass. Bicycle brakes are still brakes but would you use them to slow your car? A little extreme I know, but trying to paint a picture. Stock brakes are fine for the stock wheel/tire combination. You start going bigger than that you will reach a limit on what is safe. I run 33's and can't stop like I can in my other car.
Ok thank you, I understand the picture.
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Ok thank you, I understand the picture.
If you want to run 35's, $5000 is a good place to start ....
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If you want to run 35's, $5000 is a good place to start ....
... I'll stick to 33's haha
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... I'll stick to 33's haha
Good plan...
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Sorry to post on a somewhat old topic, but are you sure I do not have to purchase anything for the kit besides the cables? Ie. sway bars?
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If you are still talking about the zone 4.25" combo, it comes with seat bar disconnects. Personally, I don't see the point to sway bar disconnects and would only drop more cash on it to go to an antirock.

An adjustable front track bar from metalcloak or savvy would be a nice addition but also not mandatory. Especially if you can weld. Many people have drilled a new axle side whole for the track bar and added a piece of steel with a hole drilled in it to aid in support. The hole being moved .75" towards center puts your front axle back where it should be
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Well, you could always go get some flat fenders (bushwhacker being the most cost effective) and 1 3/4 spacers and slide 35's underneath it...

If you were to invest money into a real suspension system, we would go long arm or do nothing in our opinion.

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I'm sticking with the zone offroad kit, but that doesn't answer my question as to other parts I may need.
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Well, you could always go get some flat fenders (bushwhacker being the most cost effective) and 1 3/4 spacers and slide 35's underneath it...

If you were to invest money into a real suspension system, we would go long arm or do nothing in our opinion.

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Bushwackers recommendations and insult to everyone with short arms and no basis for it. Well done sir, I see your vendor account doing great things
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I'm sticking with the zone offroad kit, but that doesn't answer my question as to other parts I may need.
Re read my last post
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I did,you only recommended things, is there anything absolutely necessary for the kit though?
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I did,you only recommended things, is there anything absolutely necessary for the kit though?
The Zone 4.25 combo kit is complete.

If you have a manual trans with an accordian shift boot, you might have to buy a $10 pleather shift boot. If you have some rusted bolts, get a can of PB Blaster.

Once you install the kit, your steering wheel will be upside down, but its a very easy 3 minute adjustment.
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The Zone 4.25 combo kit is complete.

If you have a manual trans with an accordian shift boot, you might have to buy a $10 pleather shift boot. If you have some rusted bolts, get a can of PB Blaster.

Once you install the kit, your steering wheel will be upside down, but its a very easy 3 minute adjustment.
Ok thanks, I'll get the kit and the cable shifter.
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The kit is rather complete, but there are always upgrades. The only thing that I would say is mandatory is a dozen fender washers so you can lower your skid in minor increments if you do have any vibes.

Also, you probably won't be able to run your trans skid anymore as your drive shaft will rub at full droop
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I put a 4" Rough Country kit on my TJ with no real driveline issues. It came with a transfer case drop, tubular lower control arms, TC shifter relocation bracket, and longer anti-sway bar links. Only real problem was the shifter boot had to be moved inside the console to keep it from jumping out of gear. I did opt for a dropped pitman arm and a front trackbar relocation bracket. I think it would be wise to install a SYE and rear driveshaft in the near future, but I don;t have any driveline vibration. A quality alignment is a must.

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