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Old 07-10-2013, 03:17 PM   #31
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Then you guys get stuck behind one...no diesel will smell as clean as a fuel injected small block..besides the OP was asking about a 4bt
It's a shame you allow a single bad experience caused by a negligent driver to shape your overall opinion, I guess there is no convincing people that use antidotal evidence to formulate their personal world views.. I met a guy only last week. He was a bigoted racist from Mississippi. I guess all good ole boys from Mississippi are bigoted racists? I guess we should never allow facts to get in the way of opinion.. Banging head several times....

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He was a bigoted racist from Mississippi. I guess all good ole boys from Mississippi are bigoted racists?
I think that's pretty close to fact I was never proven otherwise last time I was there lol but to the op would you consider using the 4.5l QSB cummins? I've seen in swapped into a YJ but I think it'd be pretty sweet in a TJ

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I guess we should never allow facts to get in the way of opinion.

It seems to work for you.
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It's a shame you allow a single bad experience caused by a negligent driver to shape your overall opinion, I guess there is no convincing people that use antidotal evidence to formulate their personal world views.. I met a guy only last week. He was a bigoted racist from Mississippi. I guess all good ole boys from Mississippi are bigoted racists? I guess we should never allow facts to get in the way of opinion.. Banging head several times....

So now you are making comparisons..like this. Nice to know this is how you think.

Where have I said I had a bad experience. I have diesels and love them on the street. And have likely more experience with Diesels than you do as its my business. No diesel will be as stink free as a injected gas motor.

I don't want to get behind a carb'd gas motor either.

So get your diesel and likely spend 2x's the $ that having a LS would cost, not counting the added weight.
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Old 07-11-2013, 06:14 PM   #35
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So now you are making comparisons..like this. Nice to know this is how you think.

Where have I said I had a bad experience. I have diesels and love them on the street. And have likely more experience with Diesels than you do as its my business. No diesel will be as stink free as a injected gas motor.

I don't want to get behind a carb'd gas motor either.

So get your diesel and likely spend 2x's the $ that having a LS would cost, not counting the added weight.
If, a big word, if you read all of this thread you would see that I recommended the Chevy LS ( 350)... Having clarified that, Diesel engines for personal vehicles have been getting a bad rap, the GM conversion diesel didn't help any.. ( late 70s/early 80s? ). I also asked a lot of practicality questions of the guy that made the 4bt swap, and as usual practicality questions were unanswered, mainly because the swap is basically a novelty, and not a good swap for very long range travel... My first major FFA project was rebuilding a J I Case model 600 Diesel engine ,,, ( in 1970 ) and have been around, worked on, and operated diesels ever since.. As far as how I think? You haven't a clue, as I often invoke metaphorical witticisms to make my point... If you have all that experience with diesels then why didn't you just say so, then I would not have justifiably come to the conclusion that your remark was based upon an antidotal experience.. Later on.
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Sorry I didn't know that if I didn't state my background that my opinion would be compared as you did. As to your metaphorical witticisms ...grow up.
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Sorry I didn't know that if I didn't state my background that my opinion would be compared as you did. As to your metaphorical witticisms ...grow up.
So, I guess Mathew, Mark, Luke and John should also grow up? The Bible, as with all great literature is full of metaphorical witticisms... I suppose I should be quiet now.. You obviously just don't get it...
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I DD my 4bt Scrambler, I routinely get 33mpg with a 5 speed, 3.55 gears & 33" tires. It is a very simple setup, not a lot in the way of swap 'kits' out there tho. I fabricated most of my stuff.
My experience vs. what I've always heard about diesels:

4bt's do vibrate a lot, however I have the fluid-filled motor mounts & I can see clearly using my Stock CJ side mirrors. (You all know how crappy they are )

4bt's are loud. Yes. Isn't it awesome? Decent sound-deadening + new window and door seals help a lot but it is indeed noisy by any standards. Either you love it or not.

4bt's stink. My engine was in excellent condition and I rebuilt the injectors and resealed the inj. pump just because I'm anal that way. You really have to lean on mine to get it to smoke at all, and idling along on the trail there is no smoke and hardly any fumes. A poorly-tuned gas carb is much worse. If you go tuning on a diesel, you load a lot more fuel into the system that will not be burned = fumes/smoke.

4bt's are heavy. Yes indeed. Would not be ideal for muddy trails or off-camber stuff. Probably look at a 3.3L or something else if you had to have a diesel for that. If you have the $ and the technical know-how, the VW TDI swap would be ideal.

4bt's are slow. Tell that to all the commuters I cruise past each morning @ 75mph+
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I would think that a LS engine from a late model Chevy truck would be cheaper and simpler.

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