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Old 08-29-2014, 09:23 PM   #1
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6" skyjacker thoughts?

Not really checking opinions of a new setup. Apparently the 99 sahara I purchased with a 4" lift is actually a 6" lift. I finally found the numbers on the front coils 02-552. Tracked those down and it brought me to a craigslist ad selling the 6" lift springs. Don't really mind the lift just wondering whether it was a kit or not, and whether it really suited what my intentions for the jeep are. It appears that the trackbar, swaybars and tie rods are still stock. The hole has been tapped 3/4 to the right of the original trackbar hole with a washer welded to the axle. I suppose the hole was wallowed out and the washer was to keep it tight. It probably needs some new shocks. I don't really plan on off roading a great deal, mostly just cruising around with the family on backroads. Wondering what any recommendations would be. Should I get a 3-4" lift and new shocks (gonna do that anyway) or keep it and just get new shocks, possibly trackbar? It has 33s on it and I don't wanna give them up. It really rolls around on the road, going over hills and such. Goes to the right when I go over a hill, pulls to the left when I change gears. The rear coils aren't really straight like you would think. I know a lot of questions right? Just trying to figure it out. Not really a dd because I drive a company truck to work but will be my main mode of transportation. Any help would be great, all this lift and everything is new to me. Just heard a lot of negatives about having a lift this big with something I was gonna drive a lot.

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6" is very high and nothing I would suggest. Look at replacing everything with a zone 4.25" combination lift.

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Before assuming anything, measure the springs. Stock fronts are 12" and rears are 8" at ride height, so any measurement more than that is lift height. 16" front's=4" of lift etc.

What was done to the current set up as far as the driveline angles go? Huge drop in the transfer case skid, sye, or some combination?

It would really help to know exactly what you were starting with. Is there a dropped pitman arm? Take some pics of the front suspension and post them up. You may be better off keeping some of what you have and replacing some parts, or as rda616 suggested just replace it all....it just depends on what you have now.
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Old 08-30-2014, 01:52 PM   #4
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Here are some pics I took today. The everything minus the lca on the front seen to be stock. You take a look and Click image for larger version

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Here's another one of the rear lca. I did measure the front and rear coils. Front was 18 rear 14.
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My guess is that you have a 4" suspension lift. That 1 1/2" transfer case drop would not likely be enough to tame drive line vibrations on a 6" lift with the stock slip yoke set up on the drive line. The pinion angle on the rear dif is off due to the fact that stock control arms were used with that much lift.

The biggest issue as far as driving it is going to be the dropped pitman arm that is on it. That is the first thing to get rid of. You probably have a bad case of bump steer. No matter whether you keep this lift or get something else, buy and install a stock pitman arm.

It's hard to tell from the pictures, but you may be missing the jounce bumpers also.

If you opt to go with something like the Zone combo lift, you will have to also purchase a pair of stock lower ca's and bushings for the front. They are available at Rock auto for about $25 each (arm with bushing installed). If you decide to keep what you have, you should consider an sye and adjustable ca's.
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I was debating on getting the zone 4" lift kit. Don't really plan on going of road that much. Are they a good kit? At least then I can start over and know what is under it. The price isn't to bad for a dd. The shocks I was looking at was gonna cost as much as the whole zone kit. Don't know if that's good or bad?
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I was debating on getting the zone 4" lift kit. Don't really plan on going of road that much. Are they a good kit? At least then I can start over and know what is under it. The price isn't to bad for a dd. The shocks I was looking at was gonna cost as much as the whole zone kit. Don't know if that's good or bad?
You would be much happier with the Zone 4.25" combo lift. It uses a 3" suspension lift which reduces driveline angles, a 1.25" body lift, and a 1" motor mount lift to take care of the drive line angle instead of a transfer case drop. The combo lift still gets you there, just in a better way. The only thing I would add, is a good adjustable front track bar, like the Metalcloak. And a stock pitman arm and stock lower CA's.

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Already ordered the stock pitman. Makes sense to get the combo. Which rides best on highway, nitrous or hydraulic?
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Old 08-30-2014, 04:53 PM   #10
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hydro's will be your best bet for both onroad and the occasional offroad
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My son got the hydro's with his and it rides pretty well on and off road. I have no experience with Zones nitros. here's some pictures of his with the Zone combo and 33's
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Thats a nice ride. I may turn it down a little and go with just a 3" zone lift. If i decide later to go with a body lift i might do that. That way i can take the extra money difference and purchase an adjustable trackbar. Not sure i need over 4" for a dd. It is kind of a pain to get in and out of now and i am 6'2". Will that still work with 33s? What's your opinion? I really appreciate all your help. Not really that familiar with all this stuff and you all have sped me up quite a bit.
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3" is kind of short for 33" tires. The Zone 3" lift comes with a t-case drop, and the combo lifts 3" lift comes with a motor mount lift which maintains your ground clearance. I'm 6'2" as well and my total lift height is about 5" and I don't have too much trouble getting in....and I'm an old guy. You could always buy the combo lift, and if you decide not to use the body lift, throw it on craigslist and get your $75 back. That way you get the 3" lift with the mml instead of the t-case drop.
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You will potentially lose up travel due to the need for more bumpstop extension and you will either need to use the transfer case drop that comes with the kit, buy a 1" mml, or a sye with a double cardan driveshaft and adjustable rear upper control arms at least, but both upper and lower are ideal.
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I am not for sure but it appears i already have a transfer case drop already don't I? I thought that was the square tubing. I haven't measured it yet but it looks to be an inch or 1 1/4 tubing. Are the stock mounts still in there or are they scrapped when you buy the kit. Should be able to remove the tubing and back to normal right? It looks like the skyjacker tcd, not for sure there are no markings or anything on them. Since i already have the drop should i just keep it?
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I am not for sure but it appears i already have a transfer case drop already don't I? I thought that was the square tubing. I haven't measured it yet but it looks to be an inch or 1 1/4 tubing. Are the stock mounts still in there or are they scrapped when you buy the kit. Should be able to remove the tubing and back to normal right? It looks like the skyjacker tcd, not for sure there are no markings or anything on them. Since i already have the drop should i just keep it?
You won't need the tc drop that's on there if you install the mml. The skid just bolts directly to the frame. Not sure if by "stock mounts" you mean the body mounts, but if you do, yes, they stay there and 1.25" pucks are added to the top along with longer bolts.
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Was just looking at the superlift pdf for install. Can you guys tell if the mounting locations for the lower ca and things are in the correct location? I hope so because it calls for cutting off the brackets and relocating them. If so this is gonna be a bigger job than i thought. I have a pic i will upload off my phone later of the rear end. Also it appears they installed some type of space above the rear coil spring. Dont know if that is stock or not.
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Your current lca mounts are in their stock position, although your current lca's themselves are cheap aftermarket arms that are likely to wipe out bushings fast and can even take out the mounts if wheeled hard.
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Oh yeah. I plan on replacing them with stock when i put the zone lift on. I was just reading the instructions for the old kit and it called for relocation of the bracketry. Does everything look stock on the rear? Other than the coil and shocks? There looks to be a spacer on top of the rear coil didnt know if that was stock or i needed to order one, or if it was under that. I have got a mish mosh of different pieces under this thing. Didnt wanna get confused when i begin to put on the zone kit and have to cut and paste lol, a bunch of brackets.
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Those are a 2" budget boost spacer and should not be reused with the zone lift.
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Those are a 2" budget boost spacer and should not be reused with the zone lift.
Gotcha. Is the isolator still behind the spacer or do i need to order a new one? I need to order a couple lower ca for the front and i already have the stock pitman on order. Is there anything else you can think of?
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The front uses a spring isolator. The rear just has a thin plastic pad and it looks as though yours is still there.

You may want to consider an adjustable front track bar. The best option for 3" of lift is a metalcloak front adjustable. Many make adjustable track bars, but few make them with a bend away from the diff cover. Most aftermarket adjustables are a big downgrade from stock. Metalcloak, the jks 126,and currie are the only ones I would use.
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Thanks for your info. I really appreciate everything everybody has said. Everything is ordered, hopefully get it by the weekend. I will be sure to put some pics on here when it's done. Thanks to this site I know how to align the front end and straighten the wheel out when I get done. I also got the torque recommendations for everything too. Makes owning a jeep even better if that's possible lol. I plan on getting a new trackbar soon. But for now I have broke the bank. Hope you guys are on call this weekend if things go south. Thanks again.
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Well I finished last Saturday night. Got her all cleaned up and ready for a nice ride tomorrow with the family. Here's some pics. Next comes a new top. Maybe you can help me is that a dark tan or spice top. Thinking dark tan. Has anyone tried the $300 quadratec soft top? Mine sits in the garage 5 days out of the week so I thought it would be fine. Thanks agai[ATTACH][/ATTACH]n everyoneClick image for larger version

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Nicely done.
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Holy crap there is a lot on Zone dealers on here. Have any of you looked at Metalcloak? I am replacing my Rough a$$ Country crap with Metalcloak gear through Stomper Off-Road. I am very happy with the changes that Jay has suggested.

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