97 no start- one click - Jeep Wrangler Forum
Jeep Wrangler Forum

Go Back   Jeep Wrangler Forum > TJ Jeep Wrangler Forum > TJ Tech Forum

Join Wrangler Forum Today


Reply
 
Thread Tools

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on WranglerForum.com
Old 12-20-2008, 04:52 PM   #1
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Fort Drum, NY
Posts: 388
97 no start- one click

97 4cyl 5spd

just bought it yesterday, and i started it 2 or 3 times yesterday before parking it in my garage last night.

it started fine yesterday.

parked it in the garage overnight, went out this morning to start it, and it just gives me one loud click upon turning the key.

it is not the clutch switch, because with the clutch not depressed, it does not click. with it depressed, it clicks once.


battery voltage on dash is at 12v- all lights and everything work.

i did jiggle the main wires at the battery terminal, they are on tight and free of corrosion.

im hesitent to say its wiring.. this yj is MINT! everything was sprayed with rhino so theres no corrosion.. but i know the option for wiring faults are there.

im not familiar with doing electrical.. yeah i suck..

i have researched it a little, and seen some posts about holding a screwdriver across the pos. battery terminal and touching some wire with it.. not up to do that..


i was thinking about getting a new starter relay and swapping that first, but if theres something else i can try first im up for it.

i did pull the relay and look at it, and theres a little corrosion or something dark colored on the tabs that stick out..

theres i think like 4 places for relays of that size under the hood in the fusebox, but this is the only relay plugged in, so i cant pull one from there and swap.

are there relays like it elsewhere on the jeep?

or can i pull a relay from my 4cyl yj and swap?



i dont have any spare wire to be doing any kind of crazy jumping from the battery to fusebox.

i dont have a voltmeter.



so.. yeah...thanks.

__________________
97 TJ, 4cyl, auto, bone stock, 86k miles.
speepdaedeesi is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-20-2008, 04:54 PM   #2
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Fort Drum, NY
Posts: 388
i think worse case scenario is i will ask someone else here on fort drum with a TJ if i can borrow their relay for 10 mins lol.

theres about 250 tjs here on fort drum. theres 2 on my street - 3 including mine, and about 8 in my neighborhood.

theres 5 in my parking lot at work including mine.

__________________
97 TJ, 4cyl, auto, bone stock, 86k miles.
speepdaedeesi is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-20-2008, 07:13 PM   #3
Jeeper
 
NY94YJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Malta NY
Posts: 307
Sounds like the Starter. Borrow a voltmeter and check voltage to the starter 1st before trying to swap things out, or if your up to it, pull the starter and bring to local Auto Parts Store and have it tested on the bench.
__________________
'03 TJ Sport on 33's, 2"BB, 1"BL, 1"MML
NY94YJ is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-20-2008, 07:17 PM   #4
Jeeper
 
Atthehop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: NW, NJ
Posts: 3,861
Try tapping the starter with a hammer as someone tries to start it, if it starts then replace the styarter.
Atthehop is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-20-2008, 09:27 PM   #5
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Fort Drum, NY
Posts: 388
where is the starter?
__________________
97 TJ, 4cyl, auto, bone stock, 86k miles.
speepdaedeesi is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-20-2008, 09:30 PM   #6
Jeeper
 
jdhallissey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Gurnee,IL
Posts: 5,104
Send a message via AIM to jdhallissey
Underneath the truck- mounted to the side of the engine block to the tranny. It spins the flywheel thus turning the motor over. Should be about 6 inches long and about 2 inches in diameter.
jdhallissey is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-20-2008, 09:36 PM   #7
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Fort Drum, NY
Posts: 388
drivers side or pass side?

reason i ask is this tj thing is new to me.. i just got it last night.

the last guy rhino sprayed everything so it all kinda blends in together lol.

i drove it home in a blizzard last night, im hoping some water is frozen on a connection somwehere or something....

or at least that it will be an easy fix.

this thing is cherry, and i really didnt expect anything to go wrong yet.

ill post a bunch of pics once i get it running again.

it has a few more problems, but they dont make it not run so ill post those later.
__________________
97 TJ, 4cyl, auto, bone stock, 86k miles.
speepdaedeesi is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-20-2008, 09:38 PM   #8
Jeeper
 
jpdocdave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: beach park, il
Posts: 8,162
Images: 7
try the hammer trick first, thats the timeless starter test. if still no go, check for power at the starter, and then power at the signal wire when someone has the key in the crank position. if power is present, the starter is bad, if no power present, time to check ignition switch, clutch switch, fuses and relays and so on.

do the lights stay on while you try to crank it, or do they cut out completely to. that would be more battery/connection related.

starter is on the passenger side,
__________________
"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president."
http://mybroadband.co.za/photos/data...re_cowbell.gif
jpdocdave is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-20-2008, 09:43 PM   #9
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Fort Drum, NY
Posts: 388
ill go check the lights..

this sucks..

the starter relay is 9.99 at the zone

starter is 109.99 with a 42.00 core.
__________________
97 TJ, 4cyl, auto, bone stock, 86k miles.
speepdaedeesi is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-20-2008, 09:47 PM   #10
Jeeper
 
jdhallissey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Gurnee,IL
Posts: 5,104
Send a message via AIM to jdhallissey
Your truck should not make a sound when turnin the key over with the clutch not in. So your problem maybe the clutch switch.

You can crawl under the clutch pedal and pigtail the connector bypassing the clutch switch.
jdhallissey is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-20-2008, 09:55 PM   #11
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Fort Drum, NY
Posts: 388
WTF!

i just went out, turned on the lights, and it started up.

it did seem like the battery was a little weak when starting.. it turned 5 times before starting...

the shock of it starting put things in slow motion (not to mention my neighbors gave me a bottle of cabo-wabo for snowblowing their driveway the last 2 weeks so im a little tipsy)- but in my haze of shock and amazement i counted it.

so..

i turned it off.. pinched myself, slapped myself.. and started it again.

this time it started right up.

weird.

the lights did dim when starting.

its -7 here right now. when i was trying to start it earlier it was around 9. so the cold doesnt seem to be a factor.

WTF
__________________
97 TJ, 4cyl, auto, bone stock, 86k miles.
speepdaedeesi is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-20-2008, 09:56 PM   #12
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Fort Drum, NY
Posts: 388
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdhallissey View Post
Your truck should not make a sound when turnin the key over with the clutch not in. So your problem maybe the clutch switch.

You can crawl under the clutch pedal and pigtail the connector bypassing the clutch switch.

no when i tried to start it earlier it was not making the single click when the clutch was not in.

only when the clutch was in.
__________________
97 TJ, 4cyl, auto, bone stock, 86k miles.
speepdaedeesi is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-20-2008, 10:13 PM   #13
Jeeper
 
Atthehop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: NW, NJ
Posts: 3,861
It sounds like it's the starter. I have seen this a lot of times. It could be a bad spot on the armature and if the brushes never stop on that spot again it may never happen again or it could happen often. I just had the same think on my kids car a few months ago. After numerous times trying to start it it started and then it happened a few days later. As soon as I tapped it with the hammer it started and I replaced the starter.
Atthehop is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-20-2008, 11:10 PM   #14
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 588
i would guess check the wiring....make sure all is tight.....also the bolts that hold the starter in are what grounds it to the block so sometimes you need to pull those and clean em plus ice and water on them could cause a short......dont be afraid to hold a screw driver across the starter terminals to start......your talking 12v's....not gonna kill ya, not to mention i started my trail rig that way for 6 months when i was a poor college kid...u actually wont even feel a shock b/c the currents shortest path is through the starter not you and your rubber soled shoes
__________________
"its a jake thing you wouldnt understand"

01 tj, custom 4 link f/r, no track bars, 44/9"combo and some 39 tsls on rockathons
flattietj is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-21-2008, 12:06 AM   #15
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 2,473
Next time it won't start - turn on the headlights - then try to start it. Take note if the headlights go a little dim or blank out completely. Then tell us.

Also remove the connections to the battery, clean them till brite and shiny - they may look clean on the outside, but inside is what counts.

Sounds to me like battery or connections to the battery.
__________________
It's no wonder the country is falling apart - stupidity abounds!
rrich is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-21-2008, 04:19 AM   #16
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Fort Drum, NY
Posts: 388
Quote:
Originally Posted by rrich View Post
Next time it won't start - turn on the headlights - then try to start it. Take note if the headlights go a little dim or blank out completely. Then tell us.

Also remove the connections to the battery, clean them till brite and shiny - they may look clean on the outside, but inside is what counts.

Sounds to me like battery or connections to the battery.

ill do that today.
__________________
97 TJ, 4cyl, auto, bone stock, 86k miles.
speepdaedeesi is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-21-2008, 03:05 PM   #17
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Fort Drum, NY
Posts: 388
well it seems to start normally now so far

ive started it up a few times and it started right up each time.

im hoping something got a little wet and it froze.

i bought it friday. when i went to look at it i had the hood open for about 15 mins durning heavy snow. the engine compartment was hot. this could have melted some snow into somewhere....

then i went straight to the dmv, but i left it running while i was inside. i had my wife in the jeep.

got home, and it sat in the garage overnight and all day saturday.

and there was ice and snow all over it. it got to about -1 last night so it was freezing in the garage.

now its 26 and the ice for the most part has melted off the jeep, and i squeegied it out of the garage.

im hoping this was the case. im all for free fixes.

ill update if it does it again...

__________________
97 TJ, 4cyl, auto, bone stock, 86k miles.
speepdaedeesi is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Jeep Wrangler Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Takes forever to start.. Mike2000 General Jeep Discussion 7 04-10-2011 10:42 AM
Door lock malfunction (click...click...click) reson8 JK General Discussion Forum 24 03-15-2011 12:29 PM
FAQ's-jeep wont start! speepdaedeesi TJ Tech Forum 20 05-29-2010 11:28 PM
Click, Click, Click...........Click, Click, Click....... Scooby TJ Tech Forum 20 04-17-2008 05:47 PM
ANOTHER no cranck no start thread 61scout80 TJ Tech Forum 5 12-26-2007 01:54 PM



» Featured Product

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:38 PM.



Jeep®, Wrangler, Liberty, Wagoneer, Cherokee, and Grand Cherokee are copyrighted and trademarked to Chrysler Motors LLC.
Wranglerforum.com is not in any way associated with the Chrysler Motors LLC