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Old 06-05-2012, 03:46 PM   #1
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a barrel of laughing monkeys... OPDA

For you 2005/2006 owners... have any of you had to do this? Tips/comments, suggestions? Mine started laughing really loud this afternoon... (

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Old 06-06-2012, 06:35 AM   #3
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Well ordered the part from Jeep yesterday... $138 with tax after a 25% discount. Hopefully I have time today or tomorrow to get it installed. Thanks for the link. A couple of weeks ago I was reading it and thinking, "whew I don't have that problem..."
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Old 06-06-2012, 08:02 AM   #4
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Found the TSB for this problem... according to Jeepforum some have success with getting the dealer to pay for this and others have been told to go kick sand... the dealer I took mine to told me to go kick sand.

Anyways, the TSB info for future 05/06 owners...

2005 JEEP WRANGLER Bulletin - Vehicle Safety TSB ID 9419

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NHTSA Item Number:10013784
Service Bulletin #:05
Replacement #:
Vehicle/Equipment Make:JEEP
Vehicle/Eqipment Model:WRANGLER
Model Year:2005
Mfg Component Code:060000 ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING
Date of Bulletin:2005-03-01
Date Added:2005-04-26
Summary:THE OIL PUMP DRIVE GEAR ON ABOUT 16,000 OF THE ABOVE VEHICLE MAY WEAR OUT PREMATURELY AND CAUSE ENGINE FAILURE DUE TO A LOSS OF OIL PRESSURE. *SC
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:24 AM   #5
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Also here's another good post that lists the symptoms and such...

JeepinWV.com - View topic - WARNING - Check your Cam Sensor / Oil Pump Drive Assembly !!
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:43 AM   #6
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How many miles on the motor when it started?
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Old 06-06-2012, 01:11 PM   #7
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Old 06-06-2012, 01:18 PM   #8
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In my quest for more info to unload at the dealer I found the following:

-Here's the letter that should of been sent to owners with the problem or possible problem...

http://www.jeep.com/universal/websel...ce/pdf/E05.pdf

-Here's the dealer service instructions (possibly taken from CARFAX report)

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E05 MAR 2005 Campaign - Engine Oil Pump Drive Gear/Cam Replacement .

Revised June 2005

Dealer Service Instructions for:

Customer Satisfaction Notification E05
Oil Pump Drive Gear

A revised drive gear parts package has been released. The second roll pin hole must be drilled in the revised drive gear.

2005 (TJ) Jeep(R) Wrangler

NOTE : This notification applies only to the above vehicles equipped with a 4.0L eligible ("S" in the 8th VIN position) and an engine build code between 902944 (October 20, 2004) and 900325 (February 1, 2005).

IMPORTANT : Some of the involved vehicles may be in dealer vehicle inventory. Dealers should complete this repair on these vehicles before retail delivery. Dealers should also perform this repair on vehicles in for service. Involved vehicles can be determined by using the VIP inquiry process.

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The oil pump drive gear on about 16,000 of the above vehicles may wear out prematurely and cause engine failure due to a loss of oil pressure.

Repair

The camshaft position sensor/oil pump drive assembly date code label must be inspected. Units within a specific date code range must have the drive gear replaced.

All unsold vehicles must have the oil pump drive gear replaced prior to retail delivery to eliminate the risk of engine failure due to premature oil pump drive gear wear. On sold vehicles, the cam/crank angle must also be checked with the DRB III scan tool. Engines found with excessive cam/crank angle must have the oil pump drive gear and the engine camshaft replaced.

Alternate Transportation

Dealers should attempt to minimize customer inconvenience by placing the owner in a loaner vehicle if inspection determines that an engine camshaft is required and the vehicle must be held overnight.

Parts Information

Special Tools

The Special Tools may be required to perform this service procedure.

Completion Reporting and Reimbursement

Claims for vehicles that have been serviced must be submitted on the DealerCONNECT Claim Entry Screen located on the Service tab. Claims submitted will be used by DaimlerChrysler to record Customer Satisfaction Notification service completions and provide dealer payments.

Use one of the labor operation numbers and time allowances shown.

Add the cost of the parts package plus applicable dealer allowance to your claim.

NOTE : See the Warranty Administration Manual, Recall Claim Processing Section, for complete claim processing instructions.

Dealer Notification

All dealers will receive a copy of this dealer notification letter by mail. Two additional copies will be sent through the DCMMS. This notification can be viewed on DealerCONNECT by selecting "Global Recall System" on the Service tab, then clicking on the description of this notification.

Owner Notification and Service Scheduling

All involved vehicle owners known to DaimlerChrysler are being notified of the service requirement by mail. They are requested to schedule appointments for this service with their dealers. A generic copy of the owner letter is included.

Enclosed with each owner letter is an Owner Notification postcard to allow owners to update our records if applicable.

Vehicle lists, Global Recall System, VIP and Dealer Follow UP

All involved vehicles have been entered into the DealerCONNECT Global Recall System (GRS) and Vehicle Information Plus (VIP) for dealer inquiry as needed.

GRS provides involved dealers with an updated VIN list of their incomplete vehicles. The owner's name, address and phone number are listed if known. Completed vehicles are removed from GRS within several days of repair claim submission.

To use this system, click on the "Service" tab and then click on "Global Recall System." Your dealer's VIN list for each recall displayed can be sorted by: those vehicles that were unsold at recall launch, those with a phone number, city, zip code, or VIN sequence.

Dealers should perform this repair on all unsold vehicles before retail delivery.

Dealers should also use the VIN list to follow up with all owners to schedule appointments for this repair.

VIN lists may contain confidential, restricted owner name and address information that was obtained from the Department of Motor Vehicles of various states. Use of this information is permitted for this notification only and is strictly prohibited from all other use.

Additional Information

If you have any questions or need assistance in completing this action, please contact your Service and Parts District Manager.

Customer Services Field Operations
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Old 06-06-2012, 02:59 PM   #9
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I'm in the same boat you were in. Just hoping against hope it doesn't happen to me. I checked it at 30K miles and it looks ok, but I should probably just change the part out.
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Old 06-06-2012, 03:36 PM   #10
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Well here's the part that comes straight from the dealership for $175 before tax (or $138 with tax and the Chrysler 25% discount). I ended up going to a different dealer and they were a little more helpful... still ain't covered though. Sooo i called Chrysler Warranty and explained that my Jeep doesn't have the recall yet it has the same symptoms, is in between the build date, and has a "s" in the 8th position of the VIN. According to them, I can get reimbursed just for the part without having the dealer diagnosing the problem... so im going that route.

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Old 06-08-2012, 01:00 PM   #11
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Where do I find the engine build number? I have an 06 with 30,000 miles. What my chance of a problem?
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Old 06-08-2012, 02:43 PM   #12
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The engine number is on the block below #3 spark plug.

I pulled my OPDA yesterday because my engine date was right.

I have 50,680 miles on my 2005 Rubicon.

There was no unusual wear pattern on the gear. I even took it to a friend at "Specialty Gear" and he examined it and said, it looked good.


It is a good opinion that the shaft to bushing starts to seize up causing the gears to grind up; but what's is the real cause?

Bad parts? Lack of lubrication? Fit or tolerance (bushing to shaft)? Cold weather and low oil? Hot weather and low oil? etc.
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Old 06-08-2012, 03:07 PM   #13
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Thanks, I think I will run it into the dealer and let them look it over.
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Old 06-08-2012, 07:57 PM   #14
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Check my write up out... much more informative...
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OPDA Squeal - YouTube
Here is a video of it.
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:16 PM   #16
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OPDA Squeal - YouTube
Here is a video of it.
Lmfao!!!! A barrel of laughing monkeys!!! Hope I never hear that!
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:34 AM   #17
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It is terrible that Jeep has not directed their engineering team to update a fix for this problem? We should not have to worry about our engines failing, because of their neglect.
I'm just thankful that I don't have a 2005, or a 2006, because if I did, I would get rid of it and buy a older one without this problem.
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Old 01-02-2013, 07:19 AM   #18
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Good thread. I have an '06 so as soon a I get a chance today I'm gonna go check my engine build number. If I printed that letter out and took it to the local jeep dealer, would that help me get it done for free?
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Any other place to find engine build #?
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My build date was later than listed on the recall but I have the S in my VIN. 63K miles and no problem so far, but thinking about buying one and keeping it incase vs it going bad and I have to wait for one to be shipped..

Why can't a law suit be pursued? I have seen lots of people on other forums that had their engine ruined bc of this...
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Does any one have a picture of the location of the engine build number on the 4.0L? Can't find it for the life of me on mine.
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Old 01-02-2013, 09:58 PM   #22
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Do the laughing monkeys always show up before the motor goes or will the motor blow without any warning? Purchased my '06 in September with 72,000 miles. Is this a good preventative repair or wait for the monkeys to show up?
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Do the laughing monkeys always show up before the motor goes or will the motor blow without any warning? Purchased my '06 in September with 72,000 miles. Is this a good preventative repair or wait for the monkeys to show up?
You can pull the OPDA to check for smooth rotation of the shaft and signs of wear. Some guys also put a zerk fitting in.
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Old 01-03-2013, 09:54 AM   #24
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I replaced mine just as insurance against failure.

Very easy to replace if you rotate the engine to line up the timing BEFORE you pull the old one. I used a felt marker.

It took me several trys to get it perfect, but it went in prefect and now I have no worries.
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:00 AM   #25
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Hello guys,
I have been researching the OPDA issues with the 05,06s and was able to find the best deal on them I could find here>
http://Mopar-Wholesale.com/
Total cost was $149.22 for the OPDA, new gasket and shipping in american funds shipped to Canada. It will be cheaper for you Americans.
Here are the part numbers>
53010624AC DISTRIBTR OIL PUMP
J3181288 SEAL DISTRIBUTOR
Also there is a mod kit you can purchase from a jeepforum memeber named stripperguy. His kit replaces the stock bushing with an oil light one and replaces the top portion with a bearing.
With this stripperguy mod kit you will never have problems with you OPDA again.
I hope this helps someone out.
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happened to my 04 TJ. Replaced the unit and it is 100% fixed.

04- $35
05/06 $145



what a crazy different price!!!
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Dorman 689-201

Amazon has that part #689-201 for $121.58 that's where I bought mine. installed in a 06 rubicon 70,000 miles no sound, just installed for piece of mind..

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