About half an hour away from giving up - Jeep Wrangler Forum
Jeep Wrangler Forum

Go Back   Jeep Wrangler Forum > TJ Jeep Wrangler Forum > TJ Tech Forum

Join Wrangler Forum Today


Reply
 
Thread Tools

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on WranglerForum.com
Old 10-28-2012, 02:33 PM   #1
Doesn't know much

WF Supporting Member
 
YHSublime's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 456
Send a message via AIM to YHSublime
About half an hour away from giving up

So it's been the better part of 10 hours, and I still haven't gotten my intake manifold off. The bolts underneath are just ridiculous. If I'm having that much trouble getting the bolts off, mounting them back again after I install my new exhaust manifold, what kind of trouble is it going to bring then?

Am I missing something, should it be this hard? I feel like this should have been the easiest part in the whole process. Unless I get some words of wisdom, I'm packing up, it'll probably take me another 10 to put it all back together again

__________________
"You can't fix stupid."
YHSublime is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 10-28-2012, 02:51 PM   #2
Jeeper
 
Full Spool's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Calhan, Colorado
Posts: 660
Took me 4 hours to get the two bolts from top of the transmission out.
Don't give up, kick its ass.

Full Spool is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 10-28-2012, 03:02 PM   #3
Jeeper
 
bwpilot20's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 61
They suck, I used about 5 different extensions and a couple swiveling universal joints to get mine out. And I cross threaded the middle-bottom one putting it back in... Go from underneath on the bottom side ones and guide the ratchet for a second person topside to do the turning.
__________________
2000 TJ 4.0, NV3550, NP231, D30/35, 3.07's
bwpilot20 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 10-28-2012, 03:17 PM   #4
Jeeper
 
Itsfun00's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Carrollton, TX
Posts: 304
Quote:
Originally Posted by YHSublime
So it's been the better part of 10 hours, and I still haven't gotten my intake manifold off. The bolts underneath are just ridiculous. If I'm having that much trouble getting the bolts off, mounting them back again after I install my new exhaust manifold, what kind of trouble is it going to bring then?

Am I missing something, should it be this hard? I feel like this should have been the easiest part in the whole process. Unless I get some words of wisdom, I'm packing up, it'll probably take me another 10 to put it all back together again
They require the use of extensions. The first 2 (from front underneath the manifold) you get to from the top.

Easiest way for me is to attach the extention and socket to the bolt, extension will barely stick out from the right side of the intake manifold, and be tight almost resting against the bottom of the manifold. Connect your ratchet and go! You can just barely see the bolt through the cutouts in the intake manifold. But enough to lign it up, plus you can feel when you are on the bolt.

The other 3 require you to get up under and twist your arm in a few different ways. Those are easier with a swivel attached to the socket and extension. I believe they are 14mm and the 6 sided sockets give you a better/easier leverage than the multipoint one. The multi one will dang near strip the bolt because its hard to get exactly flat against it at those angles and it slips.... If that makes sense.
__________________
JEEP Its a four letter word....

""".....looking at the input shaft and the output shaft....the two should be very much synchronized....if they are not, you have slop in the box"""
Itsfun00 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 10-28-2012, 03:29 PM   #5
Jeeper
 
Itsfun00's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Carrollton, TX
Posts: 304
And to avoid ^^^^ cross threading, hand tighten them as much as you can when reinstalling. You will have to wiggle the manifold around a bit with each bolt, but you can hand tighten all of them most of the way.
I always attach the top middle one (the one that holds the two exhaust manifold sections) and the two far outside middle ones first. Then set the intake on the "dowells" and hand tighten all the top bolts, leave 1/8 - 1/4" wiggle room (makes your life easier). Start from the middle. Then do the 2 pain in the butt ones (the first two underneath) then the rest.
__________________
JEEP Its a four letter word....

""".....looking at the input shaft and the output shaft....the two should be very much synchronized....if they are not, you have slop in the box"""
Itsfun00 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 10-28-2012, 03:34 PM   #6
Jeeper
 
Itsfun00's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Carrollton, TX
Posts: 304
Quote:
Originally Posted by Full Spool
Took me 4 hours to get the two bolts from top of the transmission out.
Don't give up, kick its ass.
I headed the warning from a pro and used about 30" of extensions (to get my ratchet in back past the tight spaces) and it took about 10 minutes. I got lucky he told me that trick or I may have been in the same boat.
__________________
JEEP Its a four letter word....

""".....looking at the input shaft and the output shaft....the two should be very much synchronized....if they are not, you have slop in the box"""
Itsfun00 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 10-28-2012, 03:39 PM   #7
Jeeper
 
Full Spool's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Calhan, Colorado
Posts: 660
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itsfun00 View Post
I headed the warning from a pro and used about 30" of extensions (to get my ratchet in back past the tight spaces) and it took about 10 minutes. I got lucky he told me that trick or I may have been in the same boat.
I had the tranny lowered to where an impact would have made fast work of it. Only problem, the 1/2" impact was busted.
Full Spool is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 10-28-2012, 03:44 PM   #8
Doesn't know much

WF Supporting Member
 
YHSublime's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 456
Send a message via AIM to YHSublime
Thanks for the help ya'll. I made a trip to sears and picked up a couple of extensions, definitely seems like the way to go. I've been able to lift the jeep up onto some stands to slide in and out from the bottom... round 2.
__________________
"You can't fix stupid."
YHSublime is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 10-28-2012, 05:08 PM   #9
Doesn't know much

WF Supporting Member
 
YHSublime's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 456
Send a message via AIM to YHSublime
So it appears that maybe it wasn't my exhaust manifold, but maybe my intake manifold. I have yet to remove the exhaust, BUT, here's a few pictures of my intake manifold, and the cracks that I was able to see. I could only find one part, but it's my suspicion that this is what was keeping it from setting up with the gasket, causing the shop to think I needed a new exhaust manifold.



whats missing:

These two
__________________
"You can't fix stupid."
YHSublime is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 10-28-2012, 05:23 PM   #10
Jeeper
 
loganw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: NW Indiana
Posts: 71
I just used a long box wrench to get mine off. I soaked the bolts in pb blaster for a week prior to taking it off though
loganw is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 10-28-2012, 05:42 PM   #11
Newb
 
Hardheadedgoat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 4
I just pulled my tranny n t case I used 1/2 drive ratchet n short socket worked great for me the extensions and swivel where a big pain for me in my case
Hardheadedgoat is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-03-2012, 10:14 PM   #12
Doesn't know much

WF Supporting Member
 
YHSublime's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 456
Send a message via AIM to YHSublime
Looking back on it, this wasn't an issue at all. Thanks to everybody that chimed in and walked me through it!

__________________
"You can't fix stupid."
YHSublime is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Jeep Wrangler Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




» Network Links
»Jeep Parts
» Featured Product

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:48 AM.



Jeep®, Wrangler, Liberty, Wagoneer, Cherokee, and Grand Cherokee are copyrighted and trademarked to Chrysler Motors LLC.
Wranglerforum.com is not in any way associated with the Chrysler Motors LLC