accelerator steering - Jeep Wrangler Forum
Jeep Wrangler Forum

Go Back   Jeep Wrangler Forum > TJ Jeep Wrangler Forum > TJ Tech Forum

Join Wrangler Forum Today


Reply
 
Thread Tools

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on WranglerForum.com
Old 03-12-2008, 08:21 PM   #1
Jeeper
 
Joe Dirt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Murrieta, CA
Posts: 1,078
accelerator steering

I just upgraded to a Rugged Ridge steering system. It fixed my bumpsteer, but it still goes left when I accelerate and right when I let off. Has anyone had this issue and what did you do to fix it. It seemed to start doing it about the time I rotated the rear axle to line up with the CV shaft & SYE.

__________________
2013 Wrangler 2D, 3.6L, Automatic, 3.73 Gears, Limited slip in the rear, Teraflex 2" lift, 285/75/16 tires, LOD bumper & 8K winch, 2M Ham radio.

People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf- George Orwell
Joe Dirt is offline   Quote
Old 03-12-2008, 08:31 PM   #2
Jeeper
 
parrot head's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 406
sounds like your axle is either not tightened down properly or one of the control arms is loose or has a bad bushing?

__________________
“He who knows not and knows not that he knows not, he is a fool, shun him.
He who knows not and knows he knows not, he is simple, teach him.
He who knows and knows not he knows, he is asleep, wake him.
But he who knows, and knows he knows, he is wise, follow him.”


89 yj 4 banger 5sp. 2" BL 31x10.50 fixed up and sold
97 tj 4.0 Auto 4"RC lift 33x12.50 mud rovers on outlaw IIs . Smitty bumpers
parrot head is offline   Quote
Old 03-12-2008, 09:13 PM   #3
Jeeper
 
skeeter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Spokane, Wa.
Posts: 3,891
Send a message via Yahoo to skeeter
Mine was doing that really bad this winter, that's how I discovered I have a locker up front and my axle lock up dohickey wasn't working.
__________________
"But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." - Thomas Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia, 1782

Arguing with a truck driver is like wrestling with a pig in mud, eventually you realize the pig enjoys it.
skeeter is offline   Quote
Old 03-12-2008, 09:14 PM   #4
Knows a couple things...

WF Supporting Member
 
Jerry Bransford's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Escondido, Calif.
Posts: 34,455
Images: 2
Do you have a rear automatic locker? And are you certain the RR steering kit totally cured the bumpsteer? Maybe there's still a little BS left, does it use a dropped Pitman arm and is there a dropped upper trackbar mount that is part of the kit?
__________________
When you have a choice, buy American.

Jerry Bransford is online now   Quote
Old 03-12-2008, 09:15 PM   #5
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 8,286
Send a message via AIM to Triple88a Send a message via MSN to Triple88a Send a message via Yahoo to Triple88a Send a message via Skype™ to Triple88a
does it bump steer too?
Triple88a is offline   Quote
Old 03-12-2008, 09:21 PM   #6
Jeeper
 
nicolas-eric's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Hamburg, Germany
Posts: 5,892
Send a message via ICQ to nicolas-eric Send a message via AIM to nicolas-eric Send a message via MSN to nicolas-eric Send a message via Yahoo to nicolas-eric
the steering linkage goes from the frame down to the axle.
when you accellerate (the front of the jeep goes up) the linkage will pull the wheels to the left. when you brake (the front ofthe jeep goes down) it pushes the wheels to the right.

the more you lift the jeep the more this wll happen.
peopla who arenīt familiar with jeeps always think that there is something wrong with the jeep.
donīt hold the steering wheel that hard. then the steering wheel will move a bit and your jeep wonīt move to the left/right when you accellerate/brake.
nicolas-eric is offline   Quote
Old 03-12-2008, 09:26 PM   #7
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 8,286
Send a message via AIM to Triple88a Send a message via MSN to Triple88a Send a message via Yahoo to Triple88a Send a message via Skype™ to Triple88a
Quote:
Originally Posted by nicolas-eric View Post
the steering linkage goes from the frame down to the axle.
when you accellerate (the front of the jeep goes up) the linkage will pull the wheels to the left. when you brake (the front ofthe jeep goes down) it pushes the wheels to the right.
The track bar is also connected on the same arc. When you accelerate, it pulls the axle too to the left. When you brake it pushes the axle to the right.


This makes me ask, what track bar do you have? Also where is it connected? Any brackets? Drop pitman arm?
Triple88a is offline   Quote
Old 03-12-2008, 09:28 PM   #8
Jeeper
 
nicolas-eric's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Hamburg, Germany
Posts: 5,892
Send a message via ICQ to nicolas-eric Send a message via AIM to nicolas-eric Send a message via MSN to nicolas-eric Send a message via Yahoo to nicolas-eric
i have the stock track bar and the stock steering linkage.
in normal situations everything is fine. but when i acceletrate very fast or brake very much, then it moves a bit to the left or the right.
nicolas-eric is offline   Quote
Old 03-12-2008, 09:30 PM   #9
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 8,286
Send a message via AIM to Triple88a Send a message via MSN to Triple88a Send a message via Yahoo to Triple88a Send a message via Skype™ to Triple88a
how do you run the stock track bar with 4.5" of lift man? When i did my lift it could not fit.

The reason why i have not looked into this is i rather add the 200 bucks to a hydraulic steering with a 3 point or 4 point suspension than a better track bar axle centering and the Y steering.
Triple88a is offline   Quote
Old 03-12-2008, 09:34 PM   #10
Jeeper
 
nicolas-eric's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Hamburg, Germany
Posts: 5,892
Send a message via ICQ to nicolas-eric Send a message via AIM to nicolas-eric Send a message via MSN to nicolas-eric Send a message via Yahoo to nicolas-eric
when i installed the lift i didnīt demount the track bar.
the front axle sticks out only 1/2" on the left side.
the rear axle is still centered with the OME track bar bracket.
nicolas-eric is offline   Quote
Old 03-12-2008, 09:37 PM   #11
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 8,286
Send a message via AIM to Triple88a Send a message via MSN to Triple88a Send a message via Yahoo to Triple88a Send a message via Skype™ to Triple88a
Mine could not work as the track bar was hitting the bracket on the axle.

On my picture the track bar should bolt on to that bolt left+below the joint where the drag link meets the tie rod.

Thats the reason why i have the axle bracket.

Triple88a is offline   Quote
Old 03-12-2008, 09:39 PM   #12
Jeeper
 
4.0l sahara's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: shelton,ct
Posts: 2,228
Ya is there still any bump steer?
__________________
99 sahara
4.0/np231/ax15/d30/d35
flowmaster40,hpd30 with aussie locker,currie upper joints,4.88's, lca skids,chromo shafts,vanco brakes,d35 with super 35 and arb locker,re 4.5" springs,currie arms,re front uppers,Re shocks in back,walkerevens shocks up front, Re track bars with currie jj joints,anti rock,ss brake lines,re rear sway bar links,jks 1.25" bl and mml,bfg 35x12.5 km2's,craiger soft 8's,ome steering stabilizer,currie hd steering,rockmen front bumper,emp tank skid,lots more too.
4.0l sahara is offline   Quote
Old 03-13-2008, 12:30 AM   #13
Jeeper
 
Joe Dirt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Murrieta, CA
Posts: 1,078
The rear has a Teraflex adjustible trackbar. The front has a Skyjacker adjustible trackbar. The steering linkage was binding when I had the drop pitman on it, so I put the stock one back on. It doesn't seem to have bumpsteer, but the alignment guy was freaked out and said something must be wrong. It did the same thing before the new steering kit, but I would like to find a way to correct it if possible.
__________________
2013 Wrangler 2D, 3.6L, Automatic, 3.73 Gears, Limited slip in the rear, Teraflex 2" lift, 285/75/16 tires, LOD bumper & 8K winch, 2M Ham radio.

People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf- George Orwell
Joe Dirt is offline   Quote
Old 03-13-2008, 12:57 AM   #14
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 8,286
Send a message via AIM to Triple88a Send a message via MSN to Triple88a Send a message via Yahoo to Triple88a Send a message via Skype™ to Triple88a
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Dirt View Post
but I would like to find a way to correct it if possible.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...ing/index.html
<<mohawk smiley
Triple88a is offline   Quote
Old 03-14-2008, 04:46 AM   #15
Jeeper
 
Joe Dirt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Murrieta, CA
Posts: 1,078
OK I now hate that RR steering system. The loose steering wheel feel of the system made driving through the canyon this morning a nightmare. I pulled it back off tonight and put the stock linkage back on with a drop pitman arm. The drop pitman helps a lot and makes it livable. I know some people here seem to love the Rugged Ridge steering system, but I can't recommend it.
__________________
2013 Wrangler 2D, 3.6L, Automatic, 3.73 Gears, Limited slip in the rear, Teraflex 2" lift, 285/75/16 tires, LOD bumper & 8K winch, 2M Ham radio.

People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf- George Orwell
Joe Dirt is offline   Quote
Old 03-15-2008, 01:25 PM   #16
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 8,286
Send a message via AIM to Triple88a Send a message via MSN to Triple88a Send a message via Yahoo to Triple88a Send a message via Skype™ to Triple88a
what do you mean loose steering wheel feel?
Triple88a is offline   Quote
Old 03-16-2008, 06:25 AM   #17
Jeeper
 
Joe Dirt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Murrieta, CA
Posts: 1,078
The RR system has slack in the system. The wheels turn without the steering wheel turning and you can turn the wheel without the wheels turning. On mountain roads it gets a little scary. After putting the drop pitman on the old system and getting a good alignment it handles very well. I wish I had just gotten the drop pitman in the first place.
__________________
2013 Wrangler 2D, 3.6L, Automatic, 3.73 Gears, Limited slip in the rear, Teraflex 2" lift, 285/75/16 tires, LOD bumper & 8K winch, 2M Ham radio.

People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf- George Orwell
Joe Dirt is offline   Quote
Old 03-16-2008, 08:28 PM   #18
Jeeper
 
Rawkon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: fullerton/big bear
Posts: 2,061
Send a message via AIM to Rawkon Send a message via MSN to Rawkon
can you take a pictures of your front steering?

sounds like bad hub bearings.

The only way a steering system will have a "loose feeling" is if something is loose or worn out. with a 3 inch lift there is no need for a drop pitman arm. I still have the stock arm with the re 3.5 lift. which is more like 4.something inches of lift. if the steering is tight and you still have play, hub bearings, ball joints, control arms need to be looked at. is your axle centered?

Rawkon is offline   Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




Download our Mobile App

» Network Links
»Jeep Parts
» Featured Product

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:26 PM.



JeepŪ, Wrangler, Liberty, Wagoneer, Cherokee, and Grand Cherokee are copyrighted and trademarked to Chrysler Motors LLC.
Wranglerforum.com is not in any way associated with the Chrysler Motors LLC