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Old 04-27-2010, 04:21 PM   #1
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Advice about getting water out of transmission.

Yea so my transmission problem (ax15) is definatly due to WATER...dagnammit.

So anyway I drained the chocolate milkshake out of my tranny.....now what??? Where do I go from here?

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Old 04-27-2010, 04:25 PM   #2
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Manual or auto? Personally If it's a manual I would fill it back up with fresh fluid, drive it for a couple of days then drain and refill it again.

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Old 04-27-2010, 04:46 PM   #3
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Its a manual...thats exactly what I was gonna do.
So next question....whats the cheapest $$ fluid I can get that will work for a 1 or 2 day drive then dump it. I usually run the Redline MT90 but, Im not spending $10+ on MT90 to just dump it out a day later.
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That i'm not sure of, I usually run amosil syncro which is $12 a bottle but if your just going to dump and flush I would try penzoil syncro, it meets Chrysler ms 9224 standards and it's cheaper than the the royal purple, redline and amsoil.
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yeah the redline is like 12 or 13 per bottle too...ugh
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Old 04-27-2010, 05:04 PM   #6
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If your only running it for a day I would put some cheap autozone fluid in there but I suggested the penzoil syncro only to cover your arse cause it meets Chrysler spec. But honestly I doubt if a day of driving with some cheap crap in there will be any worse than it was with water in it ya know...fill it with the cheapest stuff you can find, drive it, drain it and fill it with the good stuff.
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Old 04-27-2010, 05:14 PM   #7
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Problem is I dont even know what TYPE of oil Im supposed to be using.
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Old 04-28-2010, 06:19 AM   #8
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is it 75-90 oil?
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Old 04-28-2010, 07:54 AM   #9
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75-90, 75-80... for only a day 10-40 motor oil would work too. i think it's about the same viscosity. i put it in my friend's TJ for a week and it ran well while i was working on it. can't beat $3 a quart shit oil just don't use it long term.

10-30 engine oil would work too if you got some laying around. if i remember correctly the transmission took just over 3 quarts.
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Old 04-28-2010, 11:48 AM   #10
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Ok that sounds good. I'm gonna refill it tonight..drive it to work and home tomorow, then drain again.
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Old 04-28-2010, 11:55 AM   #11
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Groundhawg's motor oil advice is perfect. Chrysler doesn't even carry the ax15 lube anymore, it's discontinued. They will sell regular Mopar motor oil for that tranny if you go to the dealer.
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Old 04-28-2010, 06:19 PM   #12
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Groundhawg's motor oil advice is perfect. Chrysler doesn't even carry the ax15 lube anymore, it's discontinued. They will sell regular Mopar motor oil for that tranny if you go to the dealer.
Seriously? After they used to charge me 15 bucks a quart or whatever? Bastages.
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was an old trail trick i learned. a guy got high centered on a stump. we got him off but created a transmission leak. he went through the 4 of us and took all our spare motor oil. it was enough to get him out of the woods.

i remembered that when my friend's TJ was acting up. hard shifting from 1st to 2nd. long story short, the motor oil did a better job than his old gear oil. so i dumped it, and tried the synthetic motor oil. turns out it worked. that was almost a year ago and he still runs it.

i told the OP short-term use only because i don't know if even running the synth motor oil long term would cause damage 2 or 3 years down the road. you might as well just pay a few bucks more & get the good stuff. but yeah, i'll promise you 100% in a pinch or short term use...you'll be A-OK
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dont be a cheep skate. red line will dissipate the moisture better and faster then the cheep stuff.what costs more. red line or transmission ?
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Wouldn't ya think the engineers that designed the transmissions would know what they designed it to use?
Or do you think they built a good trans but had no idea what to use in it? (Maybe they are just partially crazy?)


Stay away from motor oil, regular old 90wt, marketing tricks that use food coloring to make it unique, and the advice from parts store unboxers.

Call the dealer - they get the information from the engineers as to what to use.
It might cost you as extra $2 a quart, but when it only needs 1.2 quarts it costs you an extra $.40. If you can't afford that, get a job.

Knock-off manual trans fluids may last a while, but once the additives evaporate you get trouble again.

Flushing - jack up all 4 wheels. Drain the old.
Put about 1 qt of kerosene in the filler (same as WD-40).
Start engine - let it idle.
At idle, shift up through the gears slowly, do not rev, then shift back down again.
DO NOT DRIVE IT!!!!!!

Shut engine off, drain and let drip a few minutes. Notice all the crap that came out.

Refill with the dealer recommended stuff - no food coloring is required.
Your synchros will love you for it.
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if you guys want to dump $40 worth of good redline all over an oil pan for no reason that's fine with me. but don't try and tell me "the jeep engineers" know that only expensive gear oil can go into the ax-15. if those engineers were sooooooo smart, then why do the autos overheat during normal driving? why do brand new driveshafts clunk after 1000 miles? why do JK 6 speeds pop out of first? why do WE have to correct everything chrysler won't?

10-30 or 10-40 $3 motor oil is nearly the same viscosity as that $12 a quart redline. for a day, that motor isn't going to do shit to that transmission. i've seen it work. if you want to do everything by the book, and pay a dealer over $100 for 2 tranny flushes or waste $40+ of redline do it, but don't tell me "it can't be done" or make the OP waste all kinds of money. people on these forums are so knick-knacky about stuff it's amazing.
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i called the dealer with that question over a year ago and they said they use 30 weight motor oil. and that wasn't the first person i had heard that from.
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Ground - so what part of calling the dealer to ask what the proper fluid conflicts with your opinion?
The Jap made AX 15 is only one of the Jeep transmissions used.
Some of the others are very sensitive as to what's used.

Autos over heat? - is it because you don't use the recommended fluid on those either? No, don't tell me - 30Wt too?

Dumping Redline or any other oil that uses food coloring as a marketing gimmick is fine with me - but who would fall for such cheap tricks anyway?

Remind me not to try your homemade BBQ sauce!
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some of the other transmissions are picky as to what is used. but i'm not talking about other transmissions. we've been specifically talking about the ax15.

i'm not calling the dealer to find out what's proper. jtraider already has, and it's been confirmed now by other posters, and it's common knowledge among the jeep community here. in addition, my friend has been running mobil 1 synthetic engine oil in his transmission for roughly a year now and it actually works better than that garbage he had in there. there is no difference between 10-30 or 10-40 engine oil and 75-90 or 80-90 gear oil except some fillers and additives.

yeah, if you haven't noticed the JK automatics have been overheating. there are numerous TSB reports, in addition to a recall about the transmission overheating. so i suppose myself, and every other JK owner is putting in the wrong trans fluid huh? you sound worse than these dipsh*t techs that work at the dealerships. go do a search on TSB's and recalls on jeeps ranging from 1997-present, and tell me with a straight face the engineering on parts as simple as a steering shaft is sound engineering. oh wait, it's my fault huh? somehow someway it's my fault, the Mopar ATF4 poured in my jeep at the factory is boiling out of the dipstick tube after 1 hour of off-road activity. my bad! i shouldn't have been wheeling huh?

4897622aa is the part number for the ax15 transmission fluid. click on this link. you'll see it's a Mopar site. run that number as if you wanted to purchase some, and i want you to tell me what MOPAR is telling you to dump in your ax15. Discount Mopar Parts Jeep Dodge Chrysler parts & accessories with great service

now what pokey and jtraider have said is true concerning a switch. that's actually news to me. i thought it was just a substitute. thanks guys!

still want some of that BBQ sauce?

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