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Old 02-28-2008, 12:14 AM   #1
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air bags and wheeling

ok this might be a dumb question, but maybe not, anyways....

ive never owned a 4x4 that i take off road that has air bags (im old school i guess.) the wrangler i just bought (2000) has dual air bags.

my questions; is there any worry of those things going off while wheeling? if so what do you do? pull a fuse to disconnect them or what?

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I believe the newer ones like your have a switch to turn of the passenger bag... and I know of a few people who have defeat switches they made but I don't know how to do it.

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yes mine does have a switch. but turning off the passenger's air bag is only defeating half of it. how do you turn off the drivers? or do you even need to is what im getting at.
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my questions; is there any worry of those things going off while wheeling? if so what do you do? pull a fuse to disconnect them or what?

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No chance of them going off unless you need them. At which time you will be hapy you left them alone
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:32 AM   #5
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I rear ended an Acura 2007 RL in a reasonable speed last year and my airbag never came on. The Acura was in bad shape rear bumper ,tai lights, trunk and both of the passenger doors did not close.($10,000 damage) I had to replace my front OEM Bumper at that was about it.($30 used)
After all I took my Jeep in to the dealer to let a Tech to check my airbags and he told me that everything works good and the airbags are designed with though use in mind so it will not deploy as easy as a regular sedan.
Dont worry and leaved on!!
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The TJ's airbag sensor is positioned and designed so the airbags will only go off in a severe frontal collision. No amount of up-down shock will set them off. The sensor itself consists of a steel ball in a tapered slot where if the forward collision is strong enough, the ball will be forced forward into the tapered slot to energize the airbags.

The airbags don't go off on the trail unless it was a major collision or accident. I've yet to see one engaged offroad either.
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I was told (I don't remember by who...) that when you engage the front wheels, it disables the air bags. That way, they won't go off when you are wheeling. I watched a 2006 Rubi roll sideways down a hill and sure enough, the air bags didn't go off. Then last year, a friend of mine flopped his 2005 Unlimited over backwards while he was trying to climb a steep hill and the air bags went off. I've tried getting a real answer to this question from the dealer, but had no luck. I do know that I've bounced mine around pretty hard at times and have had no problems.

It sounds like Jerry has the real answer.
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I was told (I don't remember by who...) that when you engage the front wheels, it disables the air bags. That way, they won't go off when you are wheeling.

That would mean in a snowstorm when you're in 4wd and get in an accident they wouldnt deploy. I highly doubt thats what happens, i've never heard of that. That would seem like a terrible safety feature.
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I was told (I don't remember by who...) that when you engage the front wheels, it disables the air bags.
That person was wrong.
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I was told (I don't remember by who...) that when you engage the front wheels, it disables the air bags.

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That person was wrong.
I had a strong hunch that was the case. The big problem is that no one at the Jeep dealership can give me a straight answer on it.

This was actually the first question I asked on JU when I joined, right after I bought my Jeep. That was the answer I got and a few posters agreed with him. Now, I know better than to completly trust the things you read on forums. (except about tire carriers.... you were 100% right on that one.)
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(except about tire carriers.... you were 100% right on that one.)
Refresh my memory on that one please?
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Jerry,

You answered a few questions for me about your tire carrier. We exchanged a few e-mails (talked about Scouts as well). I ended up getting the ORF carrier and really like it.
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You answered a few questions for me about your tire carrier. We exchanged a few e-mails (talked about Scouts as well). I ended up getting the ORF carrier and really like it.
Oh ok, thanks. Glad you like your ORF carrier!
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My 2004 does not have a passenger turn off switch. Does that mean I can't turn the passenger one off or does it not have one? I assume that it has one and you just can't turn it off.

Does anyone else know?
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My 2004 does not have a passenger turn off switch. Does that mean I can't turn the passenger one off or does it not have one? I assume that it has one and you just can't turn it off.

Does anyone else know?
Its has both airbags, you just have no control over them.
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I'll echo Jerry's comments. I've known some guys that have buggied out their TJ's, and kept the column. They've taken the air bag out, but of all TJ's I've wheeled and wheeled with I've never seen one pop on a trail and we've seen some pretty good flops.
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Its has both airbags, you just have no control over them.
That's what I assumed, but I figured I would have control over it. One less than to worry about.
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:54 PM   #18
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Hit a big rock, and get over it........... Fornicating air bags........damn..........get real............. If I stump my toe on a rock, will it hurt?............
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i dont recall anything about fornicating....... but yeah sure ok..........

but thank you to everyone else for your input.
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Old 12-01-2009, 11:09 AM   #20
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Where is the air bag switch located? Do you need to have a stock front bumper for them to work or will after market work?
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The airbag sensor/actuator is located inside the passenger compartment, underneath the console at the very front. There are no sensors in or near the bumper.
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I recently rammed a tree hard enough to bend my Warn bumper almost in a
90* angle on the pass. side. I Hit hard. Neither air bags went off and that blew my mind. I would not worrie about it.
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Old 12-01-2009, 08:47 PM   #24
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For the 2004, it probably has the "smart" airbags. They normally (don't know specifically about Wranglers, my 2000 has a switch near the shifter) have a sensor in the passenger seat and will activate depending on whether it senses a minimum (over 75 or 100 lbs) load in the seat. That's how the wife's van works, anyway. The dogs aren't heavy enough to turn off the airbag light, but the youngest now weighs enough to turn the light off.
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My 04 has duel airbags, and there is no switch to turn off the passenger side.
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Ive had mine a few feet off the ground jumpin it in the desert and one time didnt make it all the way over a wash I was jumping and cased it on the rear tearing the rear shock mounts off the jeep and it didnt go off so your good.

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