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Old 08-03-2008, 11:22 PM   #1
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Alignment??

Ok so as you know I just lifted the jeep and everything is great...Butttt my steering wheel is sitting at a 180 degree then it should be. Its not pulling at all it actually drives very straight. The pitman arm is perfectly normal. Should I go get a alignment or should i just take my steering wheel off and turn it. Any other ideas?? thanks guys

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you can re-center the steering wheel by adjusting the drag link.



but better do a complete alignment. it doesn´t take longer than 10 minutes.

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Here's a really cool way to set your own toe-in that is totally accurate. I used to set mine by measuring between the tires but the below is a more accurate method. It's really a good way to achieve an accurate toe-in setting.

First, notice the 1/2x20 nuts holding the rotors to the wheel mounting studs, that is to assure accuracy. Those 1" steel tubes are marked to equal the size tire you're running so you measure at the front and rear to see what the toe-in is. Set your toe-in so the front is between 1/16" and 1/8" closer together than the rear is as the second photo shows. This method is 100% as accurate as an aligment shop can produce and is handy to use whenever you've done something that has affected your toe-in.

Then after setting your toe-in, use the easy procedure at http://www.4x4xplor.com/alignment.html to re-center your steering wheel. It is the length of your drag link that needs to be adjusted to compensate for the new lift height that affects your steering wheel rotation. Don't try to reposition the Pitman arm or steering wheel to straighten the steering wheel.

Don't worry about your caster or camber angles, they are very likely fine. Besides, they are not adjustable without aftermarket adjustable length control arms or ball joints.
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180 degrees is way too far off, that means your steering wheel is upside down while driving straight, that usually means something isn't right. there's usually not that much adjustment in the drag link. i really don't think you can put the pitman arm on wrong, it has either 1, 2, or 4 big nothches, so it would be hard to screw up, but make sure everything is on right first.
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Wow. You guys should work at NASA.

I'm excited to do some of this stuff to my Jeep.

By the way, congrats on the Jeep LIFT!!!! It's a great day when your Jeep gets lifted.
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Old 08-05-2008, 01:16 PM   #6
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For $75.00,,,,, get it aligned and be done with it.

I toasted (2) new Super Swampers trying to line something up myself when I upgraded my tie-rod bar..... Very costly mistake.
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For $75.00,,,,, get it aligned and be done with it.

I toasted (2) new Super Swampers trying to line something up myself when I upgraded my tie-rod bar..... Very costly mistake.
It's not brain surgery. I had never done an alignment in my life before learning how to do it correctly and quite easily for my TJ. I can have my front end's alignment done before you could even get to the alignment shop and hand them your $75.
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Jrzymilitia,

Take it to an alignment shop ! Your caster does change with a lift ! It is NOT geometrically possible for your caster to stay the same after lifting the suspension.

Really need more detail on the amount of lift and type though. Without more detail here is a GENERAL formula.

Tell them that you want the following :

toe-in: .125" +/-.03
caster: (2" lift) 6 deg.
(3" lift) 5.5 deg.
(4" lift) 5.25 deg.
all +/- .3
If you retained stock control arms, you WILL need a set of control arm cam bolts, available from BDS and other suspension vendors.

If you want it to drive BETTER than stock, follow this formula. If not, set it any way you want.
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toe-in: .125" +/-.03
caster: (2" lift) 6 deg.
(3" lift) 5.5 deg.
(4" lift) 5.25 deg.
all +/- .3

I did a 4inch suspension and a 2 inch body lift...what should I do
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toe-in: .125" +/-.03
caster: (4" lift) 5.25 deg.
+/- .3

I did a 4inch suspension and a 2 inch body lift...what should I do
If you retained stock control arms, you WILL need a set of control arm cam bolts, available from BDS and other suspension vendors.
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If you retained stock control arms, you WILL need a set of control arm cam bolts, available from BDS and other suspension vendors.
Not necessarily. The front caster angle gets slightly reduced by a suspension lift but for larger tires, a slightly reduced caster angle is what you want.
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It's not brain surgery. I had never done an alignment in my life before learning how to do it correctly and quite easily for my TJ. I can have my front end's alignment done before you could even get to the alignment shop and hand them your $75.
I agree it's not brain surgery, I have no doubt that your method is very effective, especially for a patient do-it yourself mechanic.

However, from a practical sense (non-do-it yourselfer) or someone like me that is mechanically inclined but has no patience, $75 is a very cheap fix and I personally sleep better knowing I'm not toasting another $500 in rubber.
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Not necessarily. The front caster angle gets slightly reduced by a suspension lift but for larger tires, a slightly reduced caster angle is what you want.
Stock spec. is 7 deg. +/- 1 deg.

4"-6" lift = 5.25 deg. +/-.3

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