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Old 04-24-2009, 07:03 AM   #1
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Alignment after lift woes.

So I just got my Jeep back yesterday night after having the shop put the lift/wheels/tires on. I LOVE IT!! (PHOTOS IN MY BUILD THREAD LATER). I drove it home and hit around 40mph max with no ill effects. I saw that How-To Align the front end toe in on 4x4xplorer.com and was wondering if it is really hard to set your toe/steering wheel yourself. I am having a hard time finding a shop that can and will do a lifted Jeep.

It seems pretty easy and I would go real slow and measure a lot, but I have to drive 40 miles one way on the highway tomorrow to go to a game and I wanted to take the Jeep. I am afraid of the illusive death wobble or some other issue that could arrise.

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without knowing how much lift you went to, you need to get the alignment done. do it yourself or find a shop. shops are stupid that won't do it, it isn't difficult at all.

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Should have mentioned that...I did a BDS 3" lift with the SYE. Factory control arms for now.
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alignments are over rated
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alignments are over rated
Your posts are over rated!
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Your posts are over rated!


I've said that all along...
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Wow......
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Old 04-24-2009, 09:33 AM   #8
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I don't know were you are located in connecticut, but in east hartford there is a place called Strongs Near Cabellas I'd give them a call and see if they can help you.
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Old 04-24-2009, 09:37 AM   #9
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I'm all the way down in Milford. I found a place in town called Alarcon Tire Co that I called and said they can do it. My buddy with a slightly lifted XJ recommended them. I figure I will try and do it myself tonight, but if it vibrates bad or pulls I will go tomorrow morning and just have them do it.
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Do your own toe-in, it's easy and with a little care you will get results equal to the best alignment rack. I used to measure toe-in on the tires the tires themselves but later settled on the below method which gives more accurate and repeatable results. Just two pieces of 1" square tubing, a clamp, and a measuring tape. Set your toe-in by rotating the tie rod until the front is 1/16" to no more than 1/8" closer together than in the rear. Mark the steel tubes equal to the diameter of your tires which will give you the right toe-in.

Toe-in is really all you should need to do. Your caster angle isn't adjustable without aftermarket adjustable length control arms or cam bolts, plus it should still be fine, and your camber angle isn't adjustable without installing adjustable ball joints. The camber angle should be ok anyway too. It's really only your toe-in that definitely needs adjustment after installing a suspension lift of the height yours is.

The "33" on the tube below means it is marked for a 33" tire size.
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Thanks Jerry! I will do it tonight by the seam in the tires, but will eventually go your route with the tubing.
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Jerry, I was wondering in that picture which is marked for 33's. Is that just a reference point or if I am planning on aligning my jeep with 35's should I move that mark out 1 inch on either side.
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Jerry, I was wondering in that picture which is marked for 33's. Is that just a reference point or if I am planning on aligning my jeep with 35's should I move that mark out 1 inch on either side.
You just create two marks 35" apart with one more mark centered between them and then center it on the brake rotor.
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So it looks like I did it. The front is a hair under 62" and the rear of the front tires is a tick above 62". I took it onto the highway afterwards and got it to about 70mph in 4th gear(I guess I really do loose 5th gear with 33" tires and stock gearing). I was at about 2200 RPM at 65ish in 4th gear. No bad wobble or anything. Tomorrow before my trip I will check to make sure it is all tightened and head the 80 mile round trip on the highway with hope everything goes well.

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I'm all the way down in Milford. I found a place in town called Alarcon Tire Co that I called and said they can do it. My buddy with a slightly lifted XJ recommended them. I figure I will try and do it myself tonight, but if it vibrates bad or pulls I will go tomorrow morning and just have them do it.
your in Milford? whats up with all the drinking and gambiling out there? I did a half ass alignment on mine and run from Newburgh, NY to Meridan CT every 2 months, been fine since I took the lift out and back to stock tires though. I did hit dw on 691 one time, that was scary
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I wanna try and test this myself some time. Question. can you set the edge of the tire as a reference point for example the outside edge of the tire or somewhere in the middle?

I heard that when measuring the front and back you have to do it at the same height. Did you do that? Just asking cause I want to try this.
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I tried to do it as close to the same height as possible. Once I set it I took the axle of jack stands and remeasured again to make sure it was the same. Then I adjusted the steering wheel to be as straight as I could.

I plan on checking all the bolts again as well as the measurements before I head out this morning.

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