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Old 11-02-2009, 11:00 AM   #1
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Exclamation All Over The Road !!!

I just bought a 97 TJ with a 4 inch skyjacker lift and a 3 inch bodylift w/ 35 inch tires, first time owning a lifted vehicle but this thing is all over the road anything I should look for to help it stay on the road ??

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Old 11-02-2009, 11:04 AM   #2
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replace that 3" body lift with a 1" or 1.25" and that solves some problems there.

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This is also something you need to get used to. I only have a 4" lift (suspension) and she can get squirrelly at times as well. Especially when getting into grooves on the HWY. This just part of driving a lifted vehicle.. I agree with "EX" as well; you should dump that 3" body lift in favor of either JKS Acos or a 1" body lift. This will help tremendously..

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Maybe it is that I'm new to the whole jeep thing but body lifts do absolutely nothing for getting a jeep to drive straight down the road. Jeeps take no more time or effort to make them drive proper versus any other vehicle on the road. Every jeep can drive straight and react normal. They require the proper components when they are lifted and require the proper alignments after they are lifted.

csquires85 - Without knowing what is installed on your jeep there is no way to tell you exactly what it takes to make it work properly. Take some pictures of your suspension components and steering components and post them here. That's the best way anyone will be able to help you.
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Depending on the quality of the lift install could also cause the Jeep to feel squirlly. Have you checked the alignment or balance of the tires. There is also a "sticky" on the top of this forum called Death Wobble. It will answer just about any situation of bad ride with a Jeep. Good luck and let us know when/how you solve it.

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Maybe it is that I'm new to the whole jeep thing...
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I didn't mean the body lift would cause bad handling, I just said it would solve some problems that are usually associated with huge BL's. Like bad T-case linkage and a high center of gravity
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Old 11-02-2009, 05:21 PM   #7
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First check and see if you have a drop pitman arm! This would cause bump steer that makes it feel like it's all over the road. I had the same feeling so I put the OE arm back on and it's like night and day! As for bodylift I hate the look and you don't need that much anyway!
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I think I found the problem among other things my buddy (a mechanic) said that the front swaybar is missing and also the shock bushings are totally f#*ked I've found new shocks but where do i get a new swaybar
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It's a byproduct of the MORE IS BETTER (lift) syndrome
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Thanks for your 2 cents !!!
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I have an extra front sway bar sitting in my garage.
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What do u want for it ?
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I've driven mine with the sway bar disconnected on the road. Although its way better when its hooked up it does cause the jeep to be all over the road. Sounds like there is another problem beyond the sway bar.
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First check and see if you have a drop pitman arm! This would cause bump steer that makes it feel like it's all over the road. I had the same feeling so I put the OE arm back on and it's like night and day!
HamiltonLJ's post bears repeating, he's right on.

Many clueless 4x4 shops and wheelers install a dropped Pitman arm onto TJs whenever installing suspension lifts. Dropped Pitman arms were normally always required on older CJ and YJ Wranglers so many assume they're also needed on a TJ. Not true!!! The TJ's steering geometry was redesigned and greatly improved and a dropped Pitman arm should RARELY be installed. Installing a dropped Pitman arm onto a TJ will, 999 times out of 1000, cause bump steer.

Bump steer is when the steering is forced left/right as the front suspension moves up and down when driving over bumps, dips, or anything that causes the front suspension to move up and down.

Check to see if you have a dropped Pitman arm and if you do, get rid of it and reinstall the factory OE Pitman arm. Really.

P.S. Yeah I'd get rid of that 3" body lift too... generally speaking, they're bad news. But your first priority should be to look into your Pitman arm. Check out the photos of Pitman arms I posted elsewhere today at http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/ro...5/#post8242042 which will give you an idea what a dropped vs. non-dropped Pitman arm looks like.
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Old 11-06-2009, 01:41 PM   #15
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1) sway bar bushings, make sure the arent worn out
2) steering stabilizer, make sure it isn't too stiff, this will cause jerky steering (darting)
3) get rid of the 3" body lift
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2) steering stabilizer, make sure it isn't too stiff, this will cause jerky steering (darting)
This shouldn't be an issue at all.
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1) sway bar bushings, make sure the arent worn out
He said its missing.

...........and Clifford has one available.

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I need a swaybar and I'm also gonna check the drop pitman arm but Bransfords pics wont load repost em on here please !!!
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Post some pics of yours. It'll help.
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It does have a drop pitman arm, so will changing it back to OEM really solve bump steer problems ?
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It does have a drop pitman arm, so will changing it back to OEM really solve bump steer problems ?
What, did you think we were kidding above? Of course it will, that's the issue a dropped Pitman arm causes... bump steer.

Rarely is a dropped Pitman arm required for a TJ and those circumstances are very specific, like if a dropped upper trackbar mount has been installed which yours does not have.
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Clifford how much for that swaybar u got or someone tell me where I can get one
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Clifford how much for that swaybar u got or someone tell me where I can get one
$50 bucks and you pay shipping. I searched on Ebay and they are quite a bit more expensive. Or, I'll trade you for a rear sway bar.
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I need my rear sway but ill let ya know on the front !!
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He said its missing.

...........and Clifford has one available.

well thats what i get for not reading everything B4 adding my 2 cents... Rifle season over there yet?

Jerry, i had purchased a RC perf. 2.2 steering stabilizer, it was so stiff i had to hook one end on my tow hook and pull on the body to get the piston to come out. I installed it.... it would dart all over the place, it could almost hold a sweeping turn. RC refunded my money and sent me the lesser stabilizer, that one works great and is smooth (in and out)

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