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Old 01-02-2014, 01:58 PM   #1
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Antirock vs Quick Discos

I'm a newbie at suspension upgrades. Wanting if someone could tell me what the biggest advantage of Antirock vs std sway bar with disconnects is, aside from not having to disconnect and reconnect? Thanks

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Here's a good read on the subject.

Max. Flex vs. Useful Flex and The Anti-rock - JeepForum.com

I noticed a big difference after switching from disconnects to an Antirock. Especially on the off-camber stuff where I wheel. I've had it on the loosest setting since installing it a few years ago.
The slightly softer on road anti-sway doesn't bother me.

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Thanks TJ Dave. Fellow E WA jeeper. Great article. How does the jeep perform better or differently on the hard pavement?
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Sorry. Didn't see the rest of your message. Thanks for your input
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It mitigates sudden drops on the fall side on off camber trails. When I used to run disconnected, I would at times experience the "pucker" effect when the Jeep would suddenly drop to its side, inside the cab it felt like I would flop.

When I got around to replacing my disconnects with an off road swaybar connected (SwayLoc), traversing over the same line would result in a smoother control ride without the violent drop.

Once while leading a group, I had a passenger and we were traveling down an off camber descent, they asked me why were the Jeeps behind us were commenting on the CB about the huge drop they just experienced and why I didn't give a warning beforehand, I shrugged and asked if he felt the drop when we went over the area in question, and his reply was, "NO". I continued to explain that we didn't feel the abrupt drop because we were still connected .
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Nice info TJDave and IslandTJ. You got me hooked on my next upgrade! I do a lot of spontaneous exploring. Most of my off roading. Seldom do I plan something and get out to disco. This would be great!
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Old 01-02-2014, 09:38 PM   #7
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Thanks all of you. Very helpful and totally confirms what I needed to decide between the two.
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Been meaning to ask you Ken, how do you like the Swayloc? I've seen most people running the Currie setup. And is yours the dual rate or the SR?
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There's a whole lot of math and suspension geometry involved and there are a couple great threads on each. In short, its the best of both worlds in my option. Doesn't take any work to head straight into 4wheeling like disconnecting does yet still offers support to control body roll in off camber situations. In a perfect world maybe I would run something like a SwayLoc where there are two stiffness settings but I hardly noticed a difference from my stock sway bar to the antirock on the second loosest setting on road and my jeep is my daily driver. Good price, good product, good support.
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Been meaning to ask you Ken, how do you like the Swayloc? I've seen most people running the Currie setup. And is yours the dual rate or the SR?
I have the dual rate version, it works great - as it was designed by Mrblaine of Savvy and BMB. On the SwayLoc's soft setting, it functions just like the Antirock. I've actually forgot to switch the SwayLoc's lever back to the firm setting after wheeling and the "on road" ride really isn't that bad.

That stated, I do prefer the firm setting for on road travel, as it rides just like stock without pronounced roll.

I really like the product. It does exactly what it's supposed to do . I ran with Teraflex's disconnects for a long time before upgrading to the SwayLoc and was impressed at the amount of increased performance I got out of the simple process of disconnecting. You can imagine how much more I was impressed with the SwayLoc - it's definitely a game changer in the world of Jeeping. An off road purpose swaybar really ties in all the components of your suspension and optimizes its function .
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Thanks Ken, the dual rate is the one that really interests me. On road is important to me because I daily drive it and will take it on long trips like to Montana for vacations. Now to save up the $$
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Thanks Ken, the dual rate is the one that really interests me. On road is important to me because I daily drive it and will take it on long trips like to Montana for vacations. Now to save up the $$
I run an antirock on my daily driver and hardly felt a difference from the stock one and I run the second loosest setting. If you have good control arms with high quality joints and good shocks with a reasonable size lift kit you have nothing to worry about.
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Anyone know of a good sway lock vs anti rock thread or have experience with both or strong knowledge which is best? Both sound great.
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Go for the simpler favorite, the Antirock.
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No regrets at all for my antirock. I have it on the softest setting and have no problems.
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If you can afford an antilock, get it! However, I'm more than satisfied with my quicker discos. They take me 2 seconds to disconnect, and they provide a truly unchanged ride.
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Thanks Jerry, BLK and Jr antirock it is. I'll save up and look to get one when winter ends. Thanks again.
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If you can afford an antilock, get it! However, I'm more than satisfied with my quicker discos. They take me 2 seconds to disconnect, and they provide a truly unchanged ride.
There's more to this subject than time.

Understanding vehicle dynamics and how sway bars influence the vehicle's behavior is required to really understand this argument. Having no influence (disconnected) is completely different than running a torsion-style sway bar such as the AR.

And if you don't notice the difference between being 'connected' and 'disconnected', I strongly question your sense of feel.
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There's more to this subject than time.

Understanding vehicle dynamics and how sway bars influence the vehicle's behavior is required to really understand this argument. Having no influence (disconnected) is completely different than running a torsion-style sway bar such as the AR.

And if you don't notice the difference between being 'connected' and 'disconnected', I strongly question your sense of feel.
I think he was referring to the fact you retain your stock sway bar feel on road and that ride remains unchanged.
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There's more to this subject than time. Understanding vehicle dynamics and how sway bars influence the vehicle's behavior is required to really understand this argument. Having no influence (disconnected) is completely different than running a torsion-style sway bar such as the AR. And if you don't notice the difference between being 'connected' and 'disconnected', I strongly question your sense of feel.
You didn't read what I said correctly. I completely understand what a sway bar does man..
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I think he was referring to the fact you retain your stock sway bar feel on road and that ride remains unchanged.
You are right.
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It mitigates sudden drops on the fall side on off camber trails. When I used to run disconnected, I would at times experience the "pucker" effect when the Jeep would suddenly drop to its side, inside the cab it felt like I would flop.

When I got around to replacing my disconnects with an off road swaybar connected (SwayLoc), traversing over the same line would result in a smoother control ride without the violent drop.

Once while leading a group, I had a passenger and we were traveling down an off camber descent, they asked me why were the Jeeps behind us were commenting on the CB about the huge drop they just experienced and why I didn't give a warning beforehand, I shrugged and asked if he felt the drop when we went over the area in question, and his reply was, "NO". I continued to explain that we didn't feel the abrupt drop because we were still connected .
Best explanation I have seen for how it actually works on the trail. Even have me thinking now.
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Excellent read, thanks

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