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Old 06-22-2014, 06:56 AM   #421
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Probably simple question.... Trying to figure out how to disassemble the 8.8. I got the brake calipers and brake discs of but bit stuck now. Do I need to take out the axle shafts in order to get the dust shield, emergency brake etc? Or can I get all this stuff off (and cleaned up / rebuild where needed) without taking the axle shaft out (which I'd prefer)

The only bolts I can reach right now are the 4 bolts on each side at the very end of the axle tube, but all of them are really stuck. Not sure what part(s) will come off in case I do manage to unbolt these?

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Old 06-22-2014, 10:31 PM   #422
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You can but its super hard. Crack the cover, drain it. And then pull the c clips and shafts. It's very easy. You need to undo the springs and stuff holding the e brake together and then you can unbolt the bolts holding the dust shields on.

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Old 06-28-2014, 03:00 AM   #423
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Ok thanks. Indeed does not seem very difficult....will just pull the shafts then.

First need to make some decisions on my final set-up of the drive-line....right now running dropped t-case without SYE / double cardan shaft. If I want the shop to weld the brackets correctly I do need to figure out first what I will do.....normal SYE, super short SYE, stick to stock skid plate or flat one...

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Old 07-10-2014, 03:13 AM   #424
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Ok so I got the 8.8 disassembled now, cleaned up and ready to go to shop this Saturday where they will weld the new Artec brackets and truss on.

Meantime I'm working on the brakes. I'm rebuilding the emergency brake and to do so have purchased a kit with new brake shoes and a kit with new springs etc.

Now the kit with the springs also includes a bit of 'white lithium grease'. Does anybody know what I am supposed to do with this grease / where to apply it??

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Ps. when I began with this project I was really affraid it would be too difficult for my limited skills, but learning a lot along the way and the feeling of satisfaction will be awesome once the 8.8 is under my TJ
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Old 07-10-2014, 06:30 AM   #425
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Any grease use quite sparing because you don't want in on friction surfaces

Moving points that could use grease on a drum brake

Threads in auto adjuster
Pivot point of each shoe
Inner cable to lubricate it where it slide against the housing it slides in
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Old 07-23-2014, 09:17 PM   #426
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Wow, about 75 minutes to read this whole thread, I'm surprised at how many people ask questions that are answered several times in preceding pages, anyway, I just got my 8.8, out of a '99 Exploder, and it was clean and and a nice axle to start with.

I have wheeled my Š-35c very hard over the years, alloy shafts, Superior truss, Tru-Trac, 4.88s, and 33"s. It's worked so well for years, never an issue, but lately I find myself, late at night, to my shame, on TireRack and 4WD and other sites stealing looks and pricing 35"s and 37"s. So the Š-35c has to go, a sad day, but I'll sell all but the housing and brakes to someone who is making a trail capable DD.

I'm planning to do a ton of work on this install, Tru-Trac again (I love it where I live, snow & ice 9 months a year), truss, triangulated 4-link, air-shocks (coil-less coil-overs), fuel cell and back half.

I'm curious about just one thing (to start with anyway), I'm reading the off-set is not a huge deal, Stu Olsen covers it very well, a brazillion thanks to Stu and his contributers, but I'm wondering if I should relocate the exhaust and maybe change to a smaller diameter muffler to avoid any interference, I only saw one person post in here that the u-joint was rubbing the muffler, but I hate to find out at the last minute.

I am planning long arms and a small stretch, maybe out to 100", so I think that will solve the proximity issue (if any). Has anyone noticed any problems with the 8.8 housing being off-center?

Thanks for the input.

This is what I found delivered to my house one day, $250 for a complete assembly.
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Old 07-24-2014, 04:56 AM   #427
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Zero issues for me... But my exhaust dumps out under the pass door. Ran a new cat and high clearance muffler (hush power II) for the tummy tuck and gave me a ton of room. I feel confident however that I could have run it to the stock location.

I wouldn't change diameter but run a smaller muffler if you still have the stock one. The diff offset is very little and honestly I don't think you'll have an issue.
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Old 07-29-2014, 01:34 AM   #428
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Are there any brake kits out there to replace the old junkyard lines and hoses with? The old line doesn't mesh up well with my artec truss.
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Old 07-29-2014, 06:39 AM   #429
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Probably a dumb question but.... I've been lurking here but am finally starting to fully assemble my own 8.8 for the install.
When lining up the truss kit we had to block the stock breather. Is there a preferred size or location for that or is it just as simple as a hole I can run a tube to? What about some of the "not used by a TJ" bolt holes on the top of the pumpkin, can I just drill that out and run a 1/4"npt there?
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I already know how I sound, spazzy, but I'll ask anyway. Just some background; I wheeled with a D30/35 set up on 31's. A rougher trail than anticipated resulted in my TJ being towed home. It was just a bent main in the TC, but one thing lead to another and about 8k later I have several mods including the Ford 8.8. One special thing that I noticed is that the jeep sits like a 70's hot rod, all jacked up in the back.

Now I know that the 8.8 sits the frame about 5/8" to 3/4" higher (depending on who you talk to) but I feel my 6yr old RC budget lift springs are sagging. I was thinking 3.5" MC dual rate springs for it's smooth ride and I don't want to add a coil spacer to equal the jeep out.

My question is (and I think I already know the answer) will I really notice the slightly higher back end?
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Old 08-06-2014, 10:25 PM   #432
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Plug the stock hole with weld. Drill and tap a hole on top of the diff and screw the old breather plug in.

Yes you will notice it. Add a taller coil or spacer to the front or add some weight to the rear in the form of a bumper or tool box. Or lighten the front somehow to help.
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I guess I didn't know the answer
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Got mine all welded up with 4.88 Yukon gears and spartan locker.

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Are there any brake kits out there to replace the old junkyard lines and hoses with? The old line doesn't mesh up well with my artec truss.
How you coming on yours? I got the brake line kit from ECGS
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Are there any brake kits out there to replace the old junkyard lines and hoses with? The old line doesn't mesh up well with my artec truss.
The kit I'm linking and posting the site pic of is Artec truss specific.

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How you coming on yours? I got the brake line kit from ECGS
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Link to the kit
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I'm curious if the e-brake cables will work with a 4"+ lift
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Old 09-14-2014, 08:56 PM   #439
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They are pretty darn long. I had no issues with 3"
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Old 09-17-2014, 05:28 AM   #440
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Old 09-27-2014, 07:11 PM   #441
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I now have my ford 8.8 and I'm looking into a truss kit with all the needed brackets. I am currently using the RC 2" lift and my goal
Is to run a 33" tire with my existing lift an flat tubed steel fenders. With the 8.8 with the truss kit fit with only a 2" lift?
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Old 09-27-2014, 08:29 PM   #442
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That's the same set up I recently finished. Fits well. The 8.8 is slightly narrower than the d35 it replaced, but I already had wheel spacers. The only questionable area on mine, in terms of fitment, is the Ruffstuff diff cover. At full or near full bump, it rubs my gas tank skid very slightly. It's only enough to rub the dirt off, but I haven't got serious with it yet either.
My e-brake cables, that's what I'm struggling with right now. I have ordered a set of ZJ cables, I'll see what I can make of it when they show up.
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Old 09-27-2014, 10:17 PM   #443
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Awesome thanks. I'll be starting this project shortly and I'll have pics of the build and the finished project.
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Old 09-30-2014, 06:11 AM   #444
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After a lot of work mine is ready to go under the Jeep

After purchase:



And how it looks now:



Hope to pick it up in few days with the new axle installed and all checks needed for road legal use done.

Can't wait
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Is there anything you should look for when considering buying an 8.8 axle? I've found some pretty cheap but I'm new to this so I'm not exactly sure what to look for.
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Absolutely. Just about all the information you'll need starts on the first page of this very thread. It's a lot to take in, don't rush through.
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Hoping someone can help me out here. I'm getting ready to install my ZJ parking brake cables, and I cant seem to find the route. Does anyone have a pic of their completed set up showing the cable route?
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Just finish install of my 8.8 and love it . Went in so easy and braking is better . One question how long or how many miles should I let it go before first oil change in rear end ?? I thought I read 500 miles and is it worth it to go with synthetic oil ??

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Ryan I will try and get a better photo of my axles cables after it stops raining to show you where mine are
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Ryan I will try and get a better photo of my axles cables after it stops raining to show you where mine are
Thanks! I'm actually heading home now to take another stab at it.

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