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Old 04-21-2013, 12:22 PM   #181
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So, Tim, you said you are tossing this mod on an XJ. Do any of you guys think this world work on my roomie's MJ? His leaf springs are utterly screwed, and he's having a hell of a time finding replacements. Thoughts?

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Call ECGS and talk to Chase he can answer all your questions he is real knowledgable with the 8.8 swap.

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Call ECGS and talk to Chase he can answer all your questions he is real knowledgable with the 8.8 swap.
Thanks. I planned on calling them within the next couple of weeks anyway to order my Artec kit, and brakes for the 8.8
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Probably the stupidest question I will ever ask, but which bearings do I need for the Ford 8.8. My measurements say the 2.53 OD, but there are 2 options... I found some KOYO on ebay for a good deal, and don't want to waste money. I just need to know which ones to buy.

Ford Explorer Rear Differentials Ford 8.8" - 31 Spline Axle Bearings & Seals Auto Parts: AK 1559, AK 1561FD, AK 1563,
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Probably the stupidest question I will ever ask, but which bearings do I need for the Ford 8.8. My measurements say the 2.53 OD, but there are 2 options... I found some KOYO on ebay for a good deal, and don't want to waste money. I just need to know which ones to buy.

Ford Explorer Rear Differentials Ford 8.8" - 31 Spline Axle Bearings & Seals Auto Parts: AK 1559, AK 1561FD, AK 1563,
I didnt replace my axle bearings so this is a shot in the dark. Your link has 3 options. If yours measures 2.53 OD, wouldnt you buy the same ones? Your link only shows one option for 2.53 OD...or am I completely missing something ?
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I didnt replace my axle bearings so this is a shot in the dark. Your link has 3 options. If yours measures 2.53 OD, wouldnt you buy the same ones? Your link only shows one option for 2.53 OD...or am I completely missing something ?
I haven't yanked out the once, so I am measuring ID of the 8.8 tubes, not the actual bearing because it's behind the seal. I was going to leave mine in too, but the more I think about it, I might as well do them since I plan on running this axle a long time.

The tube could get thicker, taper down where the bearing sits, meaning it could be smaller. The ones on ebay for the 8.8 are 2.25 OD or something. So basically I just wish someone could tell me what the right bearings are

Ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Axle-Bearing...cbad61&vxp=mtr

I am just trying to make sure I don't spend 30 bucks on the wrong bearings. I would think it would be easy to find but literally I have spent 4 hours casually reading on best bearings, brands, etc. Found 1 part number that didn't work. The parts store wants 15 a piece for bearings and then seals on top of that. If I can get them for 30 online I will, because I live in the middle of nowhere and like having stuff delivered to me.

These are closer: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Axle-Bearing...027488&vxp=mtr
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I haven't yanked out the once, so I am measuring ID of the 8.8 tubes, not the actual bearing because it's behind the seal. I was going to leave mine in too, but the more I think about it, I might as well do them since I plan on running this axle a long time.

The tube could get thicker, taper down where the bearing sits, meaning it could be smaller. The ones on ebay for the 8.8 are 2.25 OD or something. So basically I just wish someone could tell me what the right bearings are

Ebay: Axle Bearing and Seal Kit GM 7 5 8 2 8 5 12 Bolt Ford 8 8 R 1563 Auto | eBay

I am just trying to make sure I don't spend 30 bucks on the wrong bearings. I would think it would be easy to find but literally I have spent 4 hours casually reading on best bearings, brands, etc. Found 1 part number that didn't work. The parts store wants 15 a piece for bearings and then seals on top of that. If I can get them for 30 online I will, because I live in the middle of nowhere and like having stuff delivered to me.

These are closer: Axle Bearing and Seal Kit 1559 Dodge 9 25 Ford 8 8 GM 8 5 Trucks | eBay
Gotcha...I thought you had measured your bearings, so I wasnt quite sure what the issue was. I figured you were a sharp enough to figure that one out

You would think that info would be readily available, but maybe not since there are so many variations of the 8.8. Your safest bet may be to just pull them and measure since you intend on replacing them
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That is what I will do, but I didn't want to pull them out yet caught I thought I might change my mind. Well, looks like I am not the only one with this issue. Reading Freeskiers build thread on JF, when he went to do his wheel bearings on his 8.8, they were too small and he had to go get new ones. So that means it can't be the smallest ones. I will pull them this weekend. I am in no rush, about to finish up the crossmember welding this weekend I hope, then I will be onto that step. I need to get my driveshaft bought but I need my measurements first after I do my TT setup. Also I keep finding other things to spend money on.

I will update once I get solid info about the bearings, so it's online SOMEWHERE.
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That is what I will do, but I didn't want to pull them out yet caught I thought I might change my mind. Well, looks like I am not the only one with this issue. Reading Freeskiers build thread on JF, when he went to do his wheel bearings on his 8.8, they were too small and he had to go get new ones. So that means it can't be the smallest ones. I will pull them this weekend. I am in no rush, about to finish up the crossmember welding this weekend I hope, then I will be onto that step. I need to get my driveshaft bought but I need my measurements first after I do my TT setup. Also I keep finding other things to spend money on.

I will update once I get solid info about the bearings, so it's online SOMEWHERE.
Did you ask freeskier what size he was running? That might be worth a shot if you dont want to pull them.

Jeeps are tough, I always run into the dilemma of where I want to spend my money first

And good idea, this is probably a decent spot to keep that info
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Did you ask freeskier what size he was running? That might be worth a shot if you dont want to pull them.

Jeeps are tough, I always run into the dilemma of where I want to spend my money first

And good idea, this is probably a decent spot to keep that info
He probably doesn't know remember but I might shoot him a message. I figure this is as good a spot as any, plus my various build threads.

I am more spending money on gas/ other people. GF had a birthday last week, that kinda deal. I picked up a lpd30 w 4.10s since I literally couldn't get one for a reasonable price anywhere, not to mention trying to find a hp30. I have to repair one spring perch and a few other things, but I spent a little more on that axle than I wanted, but guys wanted 250+ who were like 2 hours away from me. local pull yards either had no lp/hp 4.10s, or wanted a grand for them

I literally have all my parts except driveshaft, wheel bearings, and gear oil. Skid plate is cut and drilled by hand (who needs a 500 skid?) and will be set up and then reenforced. Crossmember is notched, ready to go. I just have to get my spacing right and play around with manipulating my transfer case angle and see how much the weight of the driveline will alter the angle once the weight is on the bushings. Basically gona try and tuck it as close to the plate as possible without having any contact under hard throttle.

I was hoping to get this all in for a wheeling trip in 10 days but it's not gona happen at this rate. I picked up more hours at work now that I am home from college for the summer and can make some real cash, and I had a lot of trouble tearing down that d30 and ended up taking me a few hours over 3 days to get it done.

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Old 05-12-2013, 10:39 AM   #191
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parking brake cable length with 6" total lift

greeting, i purchaed a 05 rangler X with 8.8 rear axle, disc brakes and drum ebrake. it came with no rear cables for ebrake .according to the spec for swap the cable is 44.09". anybody know if this lenght will work for a 6" lift. i have the handle and cable to below and the connect bracket on the tub, need balancer and cables to back. looks like a rather simple hook up. i wastold it is from a 95 and measures to be a explorer. it has an after maket cover and i am not sure of gearing, acts like it has good limited slip or a locker.
also, if i get the ebake to work , will it hold on a rear down slope, like in a boat ramp. thanks
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Yes, you should be able to.
I have 4" of lift with an sye and CV shaft and set my pinion angle to 15 degrees.
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Just started looking into this upgrade as a future endeavor. I have a D35 and considered upgrading to a D44 but this route, done right, seems the way to go. So I started looking around and there's a local yard that has a bunch of them, complete bolt-ons (on an explorer of course) for $75 a piece. Looks like I'm gonna have to get a nice spot ready in the garage to start working on this.
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Just started looking into this upgrade as a future endeavor. I have a D35 and considered upgrading to a D44 but this route, done right, seems the way to go. So I started looking around and there's a local yard that has a bunch of them, complete bolt-ons (on an explorer of course) for $75 a piece. Looks like I'm gonna have to get a nice spot ready in the garage to start working on this.

Lol, spot... that's what I told my rents I would need for a few months this summer... now I have 2 axles, skids, parts, etc in a 4x10 foot "spot" in my garage. It's a bit cramped.

It's totally gona be worth it though, I'm doing it right and still saving a bundle.
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I hear ya. The garage is mine so at least I have the space. I have tons of other stuff that is slowly leaving the garage to make room for the Jeep and axles, etc.
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I made a deal w/ dad to help clean, for the space so it worked out. It's a 2 car w/ enough room for 3 plus workspace, but it's so packed full with... everything, there are no cars inside.
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mine is still sitting the shop just an empty shell ha. Still collecting parts at a snails pace.
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I made a deal w/ dad to help clean, for the space so it worked out. It's a 2 car w/ enough room for 3 plus workspace, but it's so packed full with... everything, there are no cars inside.
I never had room for anything until I bought the jeep and forced myself to declutter it. Still not great but making good progress.
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Will this work well with a small block Chevy V-8 and appropriate tranny, or should I use a Dana 44 or 60? Sorry for my ignorance, but serious mods like this are new to me.
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Couple questions, where do I get all new brackets to make this thing fit my TJ?? How hard is the swap for a shade tree mechanic?? Trac bar and away bar and all that bolt up correctly? And can it handle 37's?
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mine is still sitting the shop just an empty shell ha. Still collecting parts at a snails pace.
Yeah up in my case too! Got empty shell and no parts yet! Got keep making that $$$$$ firts! Oh yeah and paying bills! Got to love it
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I just picked up my second 8.8 in the past month. I bought my friends 8.8 with Iron Rock TJ brackets, full brake setup, and it has 4.10s and an LSD..needless to say i got a good deal. He aslo gave me a free Spartan locker (new in the box). I happened to buy a 8.8 about a month ago, it was already shaved of it's brackets. and it has 4.10s and an LSD as well. Also got Yukon 4.56 gears..which are useless because i want to run 35s.
Soo i if you know anybody in the NY/NJ/CT area thats looking for an 8.8 or 4.56s...Im the guy to see. Desperately want to sell these so i can outboard my rear shocks with the new axle
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Steel, hit up the facebook group AMERICAN JEEPERS and post it up for sale, lots of east coast guys on there. I saw you picked that axle up, lucky you. none of my buddies are that advanced in their builds yet. I will probably be that guy in a few years.
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What C-Clip eliminator are you guys using, I have everything buy this. I have a 8.8 with disc also, pretty sure that plays a factor if im not mistaken.
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C clips are not an issue with an 8.8. I did not bother with it.
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C clips are fine.
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C clips are not an issue with an 8.8. I did not bother with it.
I am installing a spool. I have no choice.
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You could have welded it and saved your money. lol. I think the "C clip elimimator" that is normally used is the super 88 kit by superior. It's not actually an eliminator but replaces the axles w/ ones that don't require a c clip instead of pressing in a bearing to hold the load like the eliminators used in drag cars do, which is why some of the other common c clip kits actually make the axle weaker for offroad.
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You could have welded it and saved your money. lol. I think the "C clip elimimator" that is normally used is the super 88 kit by superior. It's not actually an eliminator but replaces the axles w/ ones that don't require a c clip instead of pressing in a bearing to hold the load like the eliminators used in drag cars do, which is why some of the other common c clip kits actually make the axle weaker for offroad.
I had the spool already. And how does c clip eliminator make it weaker? It holds the shafts in, nothing to do with torque ect.
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If you read what I just posted it answers your questions. Some versions of the c clip eliminator use a pressed in bearing to hold the shaft in and will fail under side loads like you see wheeling. They are designed for axles used in racing applications.

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