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Old 06-22-2013, 09:04 PM   #211
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Thanks for that as I have been considering doing an 8.8 swap in the back of my TJ. Do the Explorer and Mountaineer axles have the same specs?
Both vehicles are the same.

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Old 06-26-2013, 03:48 PM   #212
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So if I am using stock axles for now will a c-clip eliminator like this work?

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Old 06-26-2013, 04:22 PM   #213
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The only c clip elim I would use is the superior, from what I understand it is the only one designed for offroad use. You might want to look into it more, sorry I can't give a more definite answer.
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Old 07-05-2013, 11:35 AM   #214
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There were a couple of questions about limited slips in the rear axle. I put Detroit Truetracs front and rear in one of my trucks (a D90). Not quite the performance of full lockers, but I use the Defender as my daily driver. I'm also going through the Rubicon again this next week, and it chugs through with no issues.

On a TJ (like my 97) which is really RWD most of the time a limited slip is much better for a daily driver. Less stress on the axles, and way better performance than an open diff. I'm a fan of helical gear limited slips like the Truetrac or much more expensive Quaife compared to any of the clutch type (although I have the ford traclock in the rear of the Jeep). There's a great deal of useful info on gears, differentials, lockers etc. on the Great Basin Rovers website - gbrutah.com. Bill Davis, the owner, has a huge amount of experience with heavy duty drivetrains and it's worth listening to his opinions.
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btw you can do a locker which does not need cables wires or air hoses. Detroit Locker.
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Old 07-05-2013, 07:12 PM   #215
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Has anyone used the "U" bolt plates from the explorer to mount the shocks, I am doing the swap on a YJ
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I removed my D35 today and will be mocking up the 8.8 with Artec truss so a buddy can weld it up. My 99 TJ has a 2.5 inch suspension lift but I plan on going 3.5 in a year or so. I plan on setting the pinion angle at 13 degrees based on my research.

With that said I was wondering if anyone who has used the Artec do you have any tips or recommendations with this install that might save time or prevent headaches?
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Old 07-09-2013, 04:58 AM   #217
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The artec is pretty straight forward. Make sure you read the directions and put the LCAs and shock brackets on the correct sides/in correct orientation. You may have to grind the shock tabs or but the spring perches for shock clearance. Otherwise it's a great kit.
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Old 07-17-2013, 03:20 AM   #218
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Sorta finished up the swap today and this is what I experienced. The Artec truss setup is awesome, no problems with fit.

I was able to use the stock trackbar but it took some coaxing and the axle looks pretty well centered.

Running the brake lines was a pain and look like crap but work fine without messing with the proportioning valve. I'll be reworking the lines in the near future just to make it look cleaner.

Going to have to bust out the grinder and make some clearance for the sway bar. I didn't bolt it up for the test drive but it hits the passenger side ABS guard (?) and flange thingy with the three holes (scientific term) on the passenger side of the pinion.

I was hoping i could use the stock driveshaft since i read that some have been able to but when I took her out for a slow easy two mile test drive I got some vibrations. The front sits an inch and a half lower than the rear so im going to level it out with new springs and hope that helps out or it looks like I'm getting a SYE, driveshaft and adjustable uppers which I'll eventually need anyway.

This swap and regear is by far the most indepth mechanical undertaking I've attempted but it was fun and I learned alot.
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Old 07-17-2013, 07:10 AM   #219
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Why issues with the brake lines? They seem pretty straight forward to me in the kit from ECGS.
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Old 07-17-2013, 10:39 AM   #220
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Almost done.
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Old 07-17-2013, 12:15 PM   #221
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I bought the brake parts from napa, got a 1' and 3' hard line, same T hose piece from the D35 and another passenger side soft line. I replaced the E brake shoes but reused everything else. What I'm not happy with is when I welded the brackets to the axle I used a little 130 welder with flux core wire. It looks really bad with all the spatter and I have a feeling it's not going to hold that well.
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Old 07-17-2013, 12:24 PM   #222
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I got ya. I'm doing mine tonight actually but have everything from ECGS. I have a big 220 arc though so I'm more worried about burning them up... Haha.

Could you post up pics of your setup then? I've been trying to look at others.
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Old 07-17-2013, 12:25 PM   #223
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mine goes in on friday!!!! Cant wait!!!
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Old 07-17-2013, 01:18 PM   #224
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I'll take some pics today. I did use the stock diff cover but will replace it once I break the new gears in and I set the pinion at 13 degrees. I also tilted the spring pads forward a few degrees which eliminated the coil banana effect a little.
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Old 07-17-2013, 03:43 PM   #225
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Off subject but y do u know u have ur tires mounted wrong
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Old 07-17-2013, 03:48 PM   #226
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Off subject but y do u know u have ur tires mounted wrong
Wrong according to manufacturer specs but a lot of guys run them this way and they have been tested to work "backwards" just as well. But yes I know. Shop did them that way! They still wheel great.
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Wrong according to manufacturer specs but a lot of guys run them this way and they have been tested to work "backwards" just as well. But yes I know. Shop did them that way! They still wheel great.
Ok I was just wondering kinda threw me off when I first saw them had to go look at mine and c how they were mounted
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Old 07-17-2013, 05:52 PM   #228
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When you guys weld up the brackets do you rotate the axle to get a slightly better pinion angle with a lift??
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Old 07-18-2013, 03:57 PM   #229
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I researched this swap as much as I could and found a write up saying to to put the pinion at 10 degrees and add one degree per every inch of lift you have. I have a 2.5 inch suspension lift and set my pinion at 13 degrees.

I put my angle finder on the 3 bolt flange thing (sorry I don't know what it's called) on the passenger side of the pinion and propped it up to 13 degrees. Then placed the truss on the axle and slightly rotated it until it was level (0 degrees) then tack welded it on.
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Old 07-18-2013, 04:21 PM   #230
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My pinion is at like 19 with a 3 inch lift.... I have a tummy tuck. Just measure Don't guess.
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Old 07-30-2013, 12:31 PM   #231
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Great write up
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Old 08-09-2013, 03:01 PM   #232
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I finally got my 8.8 under my Jeep yesterday, pretty simple swap. I ended up putting a Spartan locker in the rear and it's really not that bad on the road, its something i can easily adapt to. I adjusted my uppers perfectly on the first try and have zero vibrations until about 80 mph, but i never drive it over 65 so no big deal. Only problem i have is the sway bar....i currently don't have one. It's not too bad but i would definitely feel safer with one.
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Old 08-10-2013, 08:08 PM   #233
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so i have a 8.8 from an explorer in my jeep. i don't really care for the parking brake set up, does anyone know if mustang brakes would work on it, like a 2000 or so,
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Old 08-12-2013, 05:09 PM   #234
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Just thought I'd toss my two cents in here. I traveled the same route that many others did - wheeled my open D35, put a Detroit in my D35, broke an axle shaft, and rather than piece the old axle back together again I swapped in the Ford 8.8. I had to gear my front diff down to 4.10 to match. The Ford 8.8 has LSD and, yeah, there are times I miss the "real" locker but I know I have options should I want to.

Should you find yourself with a broken D35 and happen to have the cash on hand to upgrade to the Ford 8.8 like I did then you'll probably be just as happy with it as I am if you pull the trigger too.
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Old 09-05-2013, 04:44 AM   #235
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I just payed 65 bucks for a 8.8 with 4:10s n lsd from a junk yard . gona start my swap soon i cant wait to use 5th gear lol
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Old 09-12-2013, 10:19 PM   #236
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"8.8 2000 4x4 ford explorer rear axle assembly 616e $125" .... saw this on CL worth it..? I want to put it in my 2.5l 98 TJ. Sorry cant help but ask lol
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Old 09-24-2013, 01:20 AM   #237
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Sounds good to me. What gear ratio n what carrier? That year has disk brakes. Simple swap if your mechanically inclined n pretty good with geometry n a welder. Otherwise pay to have it set up or find one already setup. I found my 8.8 already under a tj with brackets setup, disk brakes, and 4.56 gears for $500. Even at buying the axle for 125 u won't get out that cheap if u have to set it up but if ya find one in a wrecked tj or something ya mighty get a good deal. Good luck
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Old 10-06-2013, 11:47 AM   #238
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Ford 8.8 all the way for me i am a true believer of this axle!!

8.8 with stock 31 spline axles and detroit automatic locker

i once tried to pull out this guy with an F-350 with my jeep and it was on a snowy/icy gravel road and i had tire chains for the rear that were as thick as what you would see on semi's and skinny one's for the front (stock dana 30)

so we tied the straps to the 8.8 itself (i didnt have any tow hooks in the back) so i tried pulling and my jeep just went up on 2 wheels like a wheelie while the tires were slipping with the tire chains on the gravel.

end result - the F-350 still stuck on the snowed in side of the road just bent the heck out of my rear wheels and broke some chain links on the thick tire chains but the 8.8 was still in perfect shape definitely one hell of an axle!!!!!!


question. has anybody actually broken one of the stock 31 spline axles for the 8.8? ive never seen anyone that has
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blew up my dana 35 and destroyed the carrier, had an 8.8 layin around, installing next week so this'll be more then helpful. I bought the artec truss kit too and yukon 4.88's
super excited for this to be finished.
ill update if i have any weird issues

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