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Old 10-25-2013, 04:39 PM   #31
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Out of the list you provided, the Detroit TrueTrac is NOT a locker, it a a gear driven limited slip and will lose traction once a tire is lifted or if you rock crawl.

The Detroit Locker and Dana Trac Lok are automatic lockers which unlock when the hardware experiences a difference in speed between the inner and outer wheel. No activation required by the driver. The Detroit is a full carrier replacement, hence is a stronger unit but more costly compared to the Trac Lok (commonly referred as a lunchbox locker).

The ARB Air Locker, Ox Locker, and Eaton E-Locker are selectable lockers and require a switch mechanism to activate from an open differential to a spool. Selectivity makes this an ideal choice option for traction but more components are required for the units to operate.

The Auburn Ected is also a selectable locker but when inactive - operates as a clutch type limited slip vs. open. When activated, the unit is advertised as being "locked".

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Old 10-25-2013, 04:41 PM   #32
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Out of the list you provided, the Detroit TrueTrac is NOT a locker, it a a gear driven limited slip and will lose traction once a tire is lifted or if you rock crawl.
Good to know. I'm going to edit the list down, because I definitely want lockers.

ARB Air Locker
Detroit Locker
Ox Locker
Eaton E-Locker
Auburn Ected
Dana Trac Lok

(BTW: I listed what options popped up on 4wd.com when I did a search for rear axles.)

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FWIW,

I was looking at either a OX, ARB or Eaton e-locker for the HP dana 30 I'm building for my jeep.

I decided against the Eaton because to many bad reviews.

I didn't see any bad reviews really for either the OX or ARB.

I decided against the ARB due to the extra cost over the OX. I also like the simplicity of the manual cable engagement on the OX.
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I'm resurrecting this thread again. I've found a few used Dana 44 axle sets (front and rear) for sale. Should I consider a stock set with disc brakes, 4.10 gears, and factory lockers, or am I better off putting money into an aftermarket set?

There's a substantial cost difference. Again (and as I've mentioned before), I want to do this correctly rather than waste time and money.

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I'm resurrecting this thread again. I've found a few used Dana 44 axle sets (front and rear) for sale. Should I consider a stock set with disc brakes, 4.10 gears, and factory lockers, or am I better off putting money into an aftermarket set?

There's a substantial cost difference. Again (and as I've mentioned before), I want to do this correctly rather than waste time and money.

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Probably going with 35" at the maximum.
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Probably going with 35" at the maximum.
Does it come with the factory locker pumps? The factory tj rubicon lockers can only take a maximum of like 6 psi before they blow the internal bladder. And its really hard finding any like new replacment pumps for them since most aftermarket pumps nowadays are way higher then 6 psi. Not to mention it will be difficult to maintain 5 psi with an aftermarket pump.
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The factory tj rubicon lockers can only take a maximum of like 6 psi before they blow the internal bladder.
I'm resurrecting this thread again. I appreciate the responses so far. Between this forum and the club I belong to, I'm learning a lot.

I found a set of stock Dana 44 Rubicon axles, but they sound a little too expensive for what they are. You've got the same response as some folks in my club.

Let me see if I'm asking this correctly: can I upgrade an 8.8 rear axle with rings and lockers the same as I would any other TJ axle? That is to say, are the mounting points the only non-standard changes I'd have to make?
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Let me see if I'm asking this correctly: can I upgrade an 8.8 rear axle with rings and lockers the same as I would any other TJ axle? That is to say, are the mounting points the only non-standard changes I'd have to make?
If your question is "can I regear an 8.8 and also add a locker", then the answer is yes.
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Jeffrybomb: I see you have an ’04 with an auto and 33’s . Most likely it’s the 42RLE tranny. You should do some research on gear sizes if your re-gearing. Regardless of what axel you run, It will be different for that transmission due to the OD. Also a cooler should be considered as well.
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If your question is "can I regear an 8.8 and also add a locker", then the answer is yes.
Are gears specific to axle types? Would gears for a Dana 44 be different from gears for a Ford 8.8?
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Are gears specific to axle types? Would gears for a Dana 44 be different from gears for a Ford 8.8?
Yes. For instance, you can't take the stock 4.10 gears from a Rubicon D44 housing and replace the stock 3.73 or 4.10 gears in the Ford 8.8.

The good thing is that for the most part, prices are very similar and gear/locker selection for the 8.8 is pretty good as well.

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