Axles Swap - Jeep Wrangler Forum
Jeep Wrangler Forum

Go Back   Jeep Wrangler Forum > TJ Jeep Wrangler Forum > TJ Tech Forum

Join Wrangler Forum Today


Reply
 
Thread Tools

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on WranglerForum.com
Old 05-30-2010, 12:38 AM   #1
Jeeper
 
tazmann910's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Atlanta Georgia
Posts: 2,143
Send a message via AIM to tazmann910 Send a message via Yahoo to tazmann910
Axles Swap

So in about 13 hours today me and a group of friends were able to swap out the D30 and D35 with 3.73 gears for ........wait for it......

HP D30 with 4.88 Gears in the front.
D44 with 4.88 gears, chromoly shafts, and Detroit locker
SYE Kit with Tom Woods Drive Shaft
Upper adjustable control arms
2" Pucks on top of my 3" suspension coils

Tomorrow we dial it in and trail ride it.

35's come in on Wednesday.

__________________
03 TJ with a bunch of upgrades...
Off The Map 4 Wheel Drive Club.
tazmann910 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-30-2010, 12:42 AM   #2
Drives by Braille

WF Supporting Member
 
AzTJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: For-8-Oh!
Posts: 13,621
Pictures... NAO!

Congrats. Can't wait till I can get some new axles.

AzTJ is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-30-2010, 12:49 AM   #3
Jeeper
 
tazmann910's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Atlanta Georgia
Posts: 2,143
Send a message via AIM to tazmann910 Send a message via Yahoo to tazmann910
Quote:
Originally Posted by AzTJ View Post
Pictures... NAO!

Congrats. Can't wait till I can get some new axles.
Pictures will come soon, I got a couple of both axles out of the jeep, kind of scary seeing the jeep only up on jackstands.
__________________
03 TJ with a bunch of upgrades...
Off The Map 4 Wheel Drive Club.
tazmann910 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-30-2010, 12:51 AM   #4
Drives by Braille

WF Supporting Member
 
AzTJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: For-8-Oh!
Posts: 13,621
Quote:
Originally Posted by tazmann910 View Post
kind of scary seeing the jeep only up on jackstands.
I'm afraid my TJ will look like this for a while at some point while I build a D44/D60 combo.
AzTJ is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-30-2010, 12:56 AM   #5
Aka Vaultzz

WF Supporting Member
 
Vaultzz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: My Secret Lab
Posts: 5,624
Axle swaps scare me
__________________
The YJ is in Rebuild Mode
Vaultzz is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-30-2010, 01:05 AM   #6
Nerf gun assassin

WF Supporting Member
::WF Administrator::
 
distortedtj's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: yep right there.
Posts: 21,258
Send a message via Yahoo to distortedtj
Cool...now you can come put my D44's in for me...I'm tired of axle swaps.
I have parts stacked up in the garage, just no motivation to install them.

And PICTURES!!!!!
distortedtj is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-30-2010, 01:06 AM   #7
Aka Vaultzz

WF Supporting Member
 
Vaultzz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: My Secret Lab
Posts: 5,624
Quote:
Originally Posted by distortedtj View Post
I have parts stacked up in the garage, just no motivation to install them.
I'll be happy to take them, off your hands and put them to good use
__________________
The YJ is in Rebuild Mode
Vaultzz is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-31-2010, 02:53 PM   #8
Jeeper
 
tazmann910's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Atlanta Georgia
Posts: 2,143
Send a message via AIM to tazmann910 Send a message via Yahoo to tazmann910
OK so you asked for some pictures, well here are a few and a link to the others of what your garage will look like when you:

Swap both axles from a D30/D35 with 3.73 gears with a HP30/D44 with 4.88 gears and a detroit in the rear, put in a SYE kit, tom woods rear driveshaft, 2" pucks on top of my 3" springs, new stainless steel brake lines in the front and rear, new shoes and drums in the rear, and a dropped pitman arm.

Here are some pictures of what a TJ looks like with no axles underneath it.








Link to the rest of the pictures.

Monster Garage 2 pictures, photos, and videos, from off roading on webshots

Later this week...new tires!!! 35X12.50X15's
__________________
03 TJ with a bunch of upgrades...
Off The Map 4 Wheel Drive Club.
tazmann910 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-31-2010, 03:38 PM   #9
Jeeper
 
TexasSam's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Texas Coast
Posts: 90
Pretty cool . I wish you lived near me I need your old stuff with the 3.73's
TexasSam is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-31-2010, 03:41 PM   #10
I HAVE A BELLYBUTTON!

WF Supporting Member
 
cavediverjc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: On the grassy knoll...
Posts: 6,982
Quote:
Originally Posted by TexasSam View Post
Pretty cool . I wish you lived near me I need your old stuff with the 3.73's
I'll have a rear D35 with 3.73's available sometime this summer if you're interested.....
__________________
Americans sleep safely in their beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do them harm...

Happiness is a Barrett M82A1 .50 caliber and a target at least a click out........

I come in peace. I didn't bring artillery. But I'm pleading with you with tears in my eyes, if you f**k with me, I'll kill you all.....
cavediverjc is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-31-2010, 04:37 PM   #11
Drives by Braille

WF Supporting Member
 
AzTJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: For-8-Oh!
Posts: 13,621
Any more pictures of your friend's CJ10?
AzTJ is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-31-2010, 05:12 PM   #12
Jeeper
 
tazmann910's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Atlanta Georgia
Posts: 2,143
Send a message via AIM to tazmann910 Send a message via Yahoo to tazmann910
My buddies CJ10 is very cool, we have nicknamed it "Mater". If you want to know more about it let me know, it has a pretty cool story.

Here are a few trail shots.






__________________
03 TJ with a bunch of upgrades...
Off The Map 4 Wheel Drive Club.
tazmann910 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-31-2010, 08:27 PM   #13
Nerf gun assassin

WF Supporting Member
::WF Administrator::
 
distortedtj's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: yep right there.
Posts: 21,258
Send a message via Yahoo to distortedtj
I now hate your friend.

Rig looks good...well minus the spare.
distortedtj is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-31-2010, 08:29 PM   #14
Jeeper
 
tazmann910's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Atlanta Georgia
Posts: 2,143
Send a message via AIM to tazmann910 Send a message via Yahoo to tazmann910
Yeah, we all like Mater. Since these pictures he has gotten new tires and put on beadlocks as well.
__________________
03 TJ with a bunch of upgrades...
Off The Map 4 Wheel Drive Club.
tazmann910 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 05-31-2010, 11:45 PM   #15
Drives by Braille

WF Supporting Member
 
AzTJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: For-8-Oh!
Posts: 13,621
I can't see the pics of the CJ10.
AzTJ is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-01-2010, 08:27 AM   #16
Jeeper
 
tazmann910's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Atlanta Georgia
Posts: 2,143
Send a message via AIM to tazmann910 Send a message via Yahoo to tazmann910
Let me try this. The link to the pictures is to my club's forum so they may be blocked.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_2422[1].jpg
Views:	29
Size:	110.2 KB
ID:	19801   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_2430[1].jpg
Views:	28
Size:	104.5 KB
ID:	19802  

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_2434[1].jpg
Views:	27
Size:	99.4 KB
ID:	19803   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_2435[1].jpg
Views:	27
Size:	103.4 KB
ID:	19804  

__________________
03 TJ with a bunch of upgrades...
Off The Map 4 Wheel Drive Club.
tazmann910 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-01-2010, 04:17 PM   #17
Drives by Braille

WF Supporting Member
 
AzTJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: For-8-Oh!
Posts: 13,621
That is awesome. That's a YJ tub isn't it?
AzTJ is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-01-2010, 09:43 PM   #18
Nerf gun assassin

WF Supporting Member
::WF Administrator::
 
distortedtj's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: yep right there.
Posts: 21,258
Send a message via Yahoo to distortedtj
^^^ if it's a real CJ-10 as it looks as it is , nope. All unique to the rig. Had it's own pickup bed like a truck does seperate from the cab. Most all CJ-10 were produce and sold outside of the US. None where sold in the US. A version of the CJ-10 was sold to the US airforce as a CJ10a A bobbed 2wd desiel version used to pull aircraft.
distortedtj is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-01-2010, 09:48 PM   #19
Jeeper
 
tazmann910's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Atlanta Georgia
Posts: 2,143
Send a message via AIM to tazmann910 Send a message via Yahoo to tazmann910
Actually, you both are right. That is a YJ tub that was cut and modified and stretched. The Tub had 8 inches added on to it.

This unit is a CJ10a and was a tug unit for a military base here in the Atlanta area. This one was not 2 wheel drive, the transfer case was welded into 4 LO, which my buddy rebuilt the transfer case and added a doubler.
__________________
03 TJ with a bunch of upgrades...
Off The Map 4 Wheel Drive Club.
tazmann910 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-01-2010, 09:54 PM   #20
Nerf gun assassin

WF Supporting Member
::WF Administrator::
 
distortedtj's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: yep right there.
Posts: 21,258
Send a message via Yahoo to distortedtj
Yeah they sell the AF surplus ones all the time. Tell me he kept the desiel in it.
distortedtj is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-01-2010, 09:57 PM   #21
Jeeper
 
tazmann910's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Atlanta Georgia
Posts: 2,143
Send a message via AIM to tazmann910 Send a message via Yahoo to tazmann910
Quote:
Originally Posted by distortedtj View Post
Yeah they sell the AF surplus ones all the time. Tell me he kept the desiel in it.
But of course he did, that is what makes it "special"
__________________
03 TJ with a bunch of upgrades...
Off The Map 4 Wheel Drive Club.
tazmann910 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-29-2010, 09:14 PM   #22
Jeeper
 
EdJonesJeeper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Western NC
Posts: 1,005
Did you notice with the upper control arms that driver side wants to be longer than passenger with the d44? Im' doin the swap now and track bar seems to want to pull the driver side further away. About a half an inch. Also bent the shocks in at the spring hanger.
Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG3171.JPG
Views:	29
Size:	197.8 KB
ID:	21089

Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG3170.JPG
Views:	25
Size:	189.0 KB
ID:	21088

Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG3168.JPG
Views:	31
Size:	137.2 KB
ID:	21087

Sorry
__________________
99' TJ Sahara d44 on 35's
EdJonesJeeper is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-29-2010, 09:50 PM   #23
Jeeper
 
tazmann910's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Atlanta Georgia
Posts: 2,143
Send a message via AIM to tazmann910 Send a message via Yahoo to tazmann910
did not have the trac bar issue, but did have the shock issue and installed the relocation brackets.
__________________
03 TJ with a bunch of upgrades...
Off The Map 4 Wheel Drive Club.
tazmann910 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-29-2010, 10:04 PM   #24
Jeeper
 
EdJonesJeeper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Western NC
Posts: 1,005
so upper control arms should be the same length correct?

And what relocation brackets are you referring too? Spring hanger/frame relocation?
__________________
99' TJ Sahara d44 on 35's
EdJonesJeeper is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-29-2010, 10:10 PM   #25
Jeeper
 
EdJonesJeeper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Western NC
Posts: 1,005
Should I have it on the ground?Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG3172.jpg
Views:	23
Size:	110.4 KB
ID:	21094

Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG3174.jpg
Views:	32
Size:	108.2 KB
ID:	21095
__________________
99' TJ Sahara d44 on 35's
EdJonesJeeper is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-30-2010, 10:04 PM   #26
Jeeper
 
tazmann910's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Atlanta Georgia
Posts: 2,143
Send a message via AIM to tazmann910 Send a message via Yahoo to tazmann910
i would set the control arms with the jeep on the ground.

Sorry, the brackets i was referring to were the shock relocation brackets that move the axle end out.
__________________
03 TJ with a bunch of upgrades...
Off The Map 4 Wheel Drive Club.
tazmann910 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 07-02-2010, 12:44 PM   #27
Jeeper
 
EdJonesJeeper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Western NC
Posts: 1,005
DONE!!!!!! And no rear sway bar for now. Gonna see how that treats me on road.
Click image for larger version

Name:	CIMG3178.jpg
Views:	36
Size:	74.1 KB
ID:	21195
__________________
99' TJ Sahara d44 on 35's
EdJonesJeeper is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 07-02-2010, 01:25 PM   #28
Knows a couple things...

WF Supporting Member
 
Jerry Bransford's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Escondido, Calif.
Posts: 30,852
Images: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by EdJonesJeeper View Post
DONE!!!!!! And no rear sway bar for now. Gonna see how that treats me on road.
Attachment 21195
I would not and do not run without a rear antiswaybar. While it is common and fine for leaf spring Jeeps like CJs and YJs to run without their antiswaybars, that's not the case for a TJ that uses far less stable coil springs.

Without realizing it, I broke a rear antiswaybar link years ago while offroading. Breaking one link disables the entire antiswaybar and completely removes its effect. Driving back home through my local mountains, I must have stopped 3-4 times to look at my suspension to see why it felt so loosey-goosey/scarey feeling on the mountain turns. I didn't figure out what happened until I got home and could crawl underneat to see what was wrong.
__________________
When you have a choice, buy American.

Jerry Bransford is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 07-12-2010, 07:15 PM   #29
Jeeper
 
EdJonesJeeper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Western NC
Posts: 1,005
the rs9000 are sooo stiff, I can't even notice I'm not running a rear sway bar. I can see how softer shocks would make a hugh differance.

__________________
99' TJ Sahara d44 on 35's
EdJonesJeeper is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Jeep Wrangler Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
1978 Cherokee Chief Axles in a TJ ? nicolas-eric General Jeep Discussion 3 10-05-2010 10:05 PM
D60 and D44, perfect for TJ/YJ swap, 1" wider than stock Jeep axles (Pinckney, Michig GrnTJ Classifieds Archive 36 08-29-2008 10:44 AM
350 engine swap... axles??????? toddsandiego YJ Tech Forum 4 02-08-2008 03:35 PM
waggy axles and leaf spring swap 93zj General Jeep Discussion 6 04-08-2007 06:07 PM
Best Axles to swap wglwrm1 YJ General Discussion Forum 2 03-01-2006 07:57 PM


» Rates
Get low rates on auto insurance in Canada!

» Network Links
»Jeep Parts
» Featured Product

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:00 AM.



Jeep®, Wrangler, Liberty, Wagoneer, Cherokee, and Grand Cherokee are copyrighted and trademarked to Chrysler Motors LLC.
Wranglerforum.com is not in any way associated with the Chrysler Motors LLC