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Old 03-21-2014, 07:12 PM   #1
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Bad lift install or worn part?

Hello everyone. I have been lurking and learning from the forum for a while and finally decided to join. I just bought a 2001 wrangler sport. Previous owner had a 4 inch bds lift installed by a local shop and put 33's on it about a year ago. It handles o.k. at low speeds but is all over the road at high speeds. I took it to my mechanic. He replaced the tie rod end that connects to the pitman arm and aligned it. He says the alignment is holding, but he cant adjust it as needed because the shop welded the lift vs installing a full kit with brackets.

It is better since the adjusment, however still doesn't drive like I want it to. Hoping someone here can look at pictures of the lift and help me assess the quality of the job.

I have an appointment with the company who installed the lift next week.
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Old 03-21-2014, 07:18 PM   #2
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Old 03-22-2014, 04:26 AM   #3
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What is he saying they welded? The only thing that the instructions say to weld is the steering stabilizer mount on the axle side. It is shown in your picture, but it is not being used. Where is the other end of your steering stabilizer connected to?

When you say it is all over the road, what do you mean? Wobbles at certain speeds? Wandering? Is it the standard BDS system or the ultimate? Looks like the ultimate since it has adjustable lower control arms. Is there an adjustable rear track bar? Check this site to compare parts 1997-2002 Jeep Wrangler TJ Standard 6.5" lift kit 467H | BDS Suspension Post more pictures and maybe the alignment numbers before and after the alignment. Could be as simple as the wrong tire pressure or, sadly, much more.
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Old 03-22-2014, 05:04 AM   #4
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How about a picture that shows the steering system complete and head on. Couple items look suspect but I'd like to see the whole system before jumping the gun.
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Old 03-22-2014, 07:56 AM   #5
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Looks like a mess from here.
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Old 03-22-2014, 09:06 AM   #6
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Looks like the 4.5 long arm kit to me. I failed to get the alignment print out. Since the alignment it drives straight. Mostly feel like im getting body roll and some bump steer.

When I accelerate then push in the clutch to shift I have to counter steer to keep it going straight.

The previous owner said he had the shop replace a cheap lift with the bds.


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The mechanic said there were adjustments points he couldn't adjust because they were welded on. I think he was refering to where lower control arm bracket is welded to the axle.
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The long arm kit would not use the stock control arm mounting locations as you see in the upside down picture. More pictures, the more the better.
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I appreciate you guys trying to help. The way it is now is tolerable, but I want to love to drive the jeep, not tolerate it.
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Looks like a drop bracket for the axle side of the track bar, maybe a drop pitman arm, and a double opposing stabilizer setup that is likely destroying your steering gear.

I can't see the pitman arm but that whole setup is a wreck. I would suggest eliminating those items and returning it to proper geometry prior to attempting to track down further symptoms/issues.
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Old 03-22-2014, 09:27 AM   #13
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Old 03-22-2014, 09:33 AM   #14
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Supposedly the drop bracket at one end and the drop pitman arm are supposed to maintain correct geometry but I don't see the need for either to be honest. Maybe with a huge amount of lift, maybe. If it were my rig is start with those items like I stated. I think it's easier to eliminate known problem causing elements and then zero in on what issues present themselves after that.
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Old 03-24-2014, 11:12 AM   #15
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Thank you for the advice. I'm working on getting involved with the local jeep club as well. Hopefully with everyones advice and knowledge I can get it handled.

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