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Old 01-15-2013, 12:59 AM
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Before I install this stuff please school me

I've read through lots of the threads on this subject and think I have a solution that will work but before I start opening boxes, jacking up the jeep, have my hands full of dirt and grease and find that something doesn't work I thought I'd run this stuff by the experts here and see if you might be able to "School me"....Please

To start with I'm starting with a stock '06 LJ Rubicon (hard top)....which was previously owned by the TX department of prisons.....and seemed to spend a good deal of time off road in it's previous life. Currently has 80K miles and I'm beginning down the road of restoring this to an around town driver and weekend off-road (mild) explorer.

The mechanicals seem to be rock solid as it likely was on perpetual maintenance but all small stuff is in need of attention.

Currently she rides on 31X10.5X15 aftermarket wheels.....which I don't like shod with Falken Rocky Mountain tires....which I do like.

According to the build sheet from Chrysler it came with 16" Moab wheels but those are long gone. I like the look of Moab's and have decided to add a set of 17" JK Moab's with the appropriate spacers. According to what I have read the JK wheels have 6.25" of backspace vs. the TJ Moabs with 5" but with the adapters @1.25" I thinking that I'll end up with a very similar set-up to the TJ Moabs (is this correct?)

I found a set of 2013 Moab takeoffs with Wrangler AT-S tires which are less aggressive (good for town, not as good for off-road) 255/75/17 which seem to be approx. 32" 1 inch larger than what's there now (and factory set-up).

I'm also planning on adding H&R Springs (LJ Specific) and Bilstein shocks.....they are spec'd for 1.5" front and 1.1 Rear.......but from others who have done it they have seen a little over 2 in the back......likely because their stock springs were mine likely are.

I was figuring that I would start with these as I'll be on road and fire roads like 95% of the time......and this set-up got great reviews, caused little related issues is priced reasonably, blah, blah, blah.

I bought the wheels and tires for $400 and I'm thinking I'll get at least 1/2 of that for the wheels and tires I'm taking off so if I need to upgrade the tires (which I likely will) I should be OK.

I plan on keeping this Jeep for some time.....and even if I buy a newer one in the future I'll keep it at our 2nd home so I want to spend a little effort now getting it right and dependable.

Am I going down a rat-hole or do you thin this will get me off to a good start.......especially since I plan to learn a lot about doing this so if I need to make a change in the future I'll be better prepared.

I'd love to hear from the experts and gain from any experience here.....I have time to return this stuff if I'm way off base so please open up if you would!!!

All the best,
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Old 01-15-2013, 06:27 AM   #2
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You should be fine.... you are only doing coils and JK wheels w/ spacers... coils are less than 2" which technically doesn't need anything else done.

I'm not a big fan of spacers... but that's me. If they don't fit, buy some that do.

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Old 01-17-2013, 06:44 PM
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Well I added the springs today but surprise surprise when I got her up on jacks and started taking it apart I found that the PO had already installed Bilstein Shocks and they were exactly like the new ones I had just I decided to leave the current shocks in place and just change the the new shocks are really stout (Coil Diameter compared to the factory Rubicon springs). The fronts were almost exactly the same height uncompressed but the rears were a good 2-2.5" taller again uncompressed.

I really like to look of the new set-up. THe wheels now fit inside the fender flairs (just barely) and the amount or room in the wheel wells even after going from 31 to 32" tires is very attractive and more importantly functional.

Jeep looks great IMHO and I'll post up some pics when I get back from a trip next Friday.

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So here are a couple of Pics.....don't have any showing the lift but it is dramatic....I'm guessing at least 1.5" in the front and closer to 2.5"....maybe as much as 3 in the rear.

I think I go so much in the rear because as previous posters have said the H&R springs for the LJ are much more stout and you can see inthe attached picture, while the front springs are only more stout and approx the same length.....again as you can see in the picture.

I also wanted to show how the 2013 Moab wheel (even with the adaptors/spacers) fit so much better within the wheel wells as you can see in the pictures (right front = 2013 Moab Wheels, left front was the MB wheels with 31X10.5X15 wheels).

I like the ride/increased clearance and got very lucky that the PO had already installed the I only hope I can send these back or you may see 4 Bilsteins in the classifieds soon


Next project(s)
  • Install Kenwood Stereo that is on it;s way
  • Replace factory Subwoofer that is blown
  • Install new speakers (5.25" front and as large as I can get into the soundbar
  • Install Cobra Seat Heaters in both seats
  • Install Covercraft Seat Covers (after seat heaters)
  • Install Reirview mirror with OAT and Compass (plus reading lights)
  • Install Garmin hardwired mount for my Zumo GPS
  • Install new Steering Wheel (Leather w/cruise) that I found locally on CL for $35 (Brand New)
That's about it for now.....but I will likely be doing more.

I want to thank everyone that has posted up all the great has really helped me make some good decisions so far!!!

PS.....I know I need to ditch the Stock tires that came with the rims....and will get something more aggressive when I sell the Wheels and Tires that came off the Jeep (in Avatar)
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