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Old 06-15-2010, 09:54 PM   #1
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Arrow Bolt hole threads for steps

Does anyone know where I can buy the thread inserts for the holes where the steps mount? I am trying to stay away from the dealership. Any suggestions on alternative mounting methods would also be appreciated. Thanks

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Old 06-15-2010, 11:30 PM   #2
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No but I thought they were all threaded already? Do you know how to tap threads? That would be fairly cheap, free even if you own the tap already.

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My TJ had blank holes, came without steps. I put Nutcerts in. They are like a threaded revit. Do a thread search for nutcerts and you can find more info.
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Old 06-16-2010, 08:27 AM   #4
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Thanks, I have looked into the nutserts and the tool is kinda expensive. The dealership did not have a clue( imagine that). Does anybody have any other advice on mounting these things? Thought about just finishing the holes on out the other side of the frame and using longer bolts. That seems like the easiest thing to do.
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drill and tap new holes. or tap the the holes that are all ready there. you can get a tap for about $5-$10, or a full set(i would strongly suggest getting a set of taps and dies).
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My '02 came with the factory side steps. I just recently had one cross thread and spin. They are 8x1.25mm nutserts. If yours is still there, you can do what I did to tighten mine up. I used a 8x1.25 bolt about 60 mm, a nut and a washer. Thread the bolt in by hand as far as you can to engage as many threads as possible, then tighten the nut against the insert to 'reset' it. You put a wrench on the bolt to keep it from spinning and use another wrench on the nut to apply force to the insert. I did run a tap through the insert first, just to make sure the threads were true.
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Old 06-16-2010, 01:26 PM   #7
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All great ideas, but you may also want to see if you have any friends in the Air Force or that are Aircraft Mechanics, specifically that work on the airframe itself. They have all types and sizes of nutcerts and tools to install them.
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or if you can weld just weld a bolt to the frame where the holes are.
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drill and tap new holes. or tap the the holes that are all ready there. you can get a tap for about $5-$10, or a full set(i would strongly suggest getting a set of taps and dies).
The wall thickness of the frame where the Nutcerts go in is not vey thick, you MIGHT be able to cut a couple of threads? Dont know if thats enough to hold a step or bar on that might get stepped on?
Chances are wherever you find the nutcerts, they might let you use the tool to pop them in? We have one at work so that wasnt a problem for me.
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Old 06-17-2010, 12:50 AM   #10
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I just did this a month ago on my 2006 TJ. I think the frame metal is too thin to thread your own holes. Nutserts are the way to go. It is actually very simple (a impact wrench is a GREAT tool to have for this).

You will need the following materials:

(8) 3/8" Nutsert (I ordered them from Fastenal, about $1.00 each)
(8) lockwashers
(8) Star lock washers (use a new one to install each nutsert)
(8) 3/8" x 1 1/2" Bolts
(10) 3/8" Washers
(1) 3/8" x 1 1/4" bolt
(1) 3/8" Nut
(1) tube red Locktite

I used all stainless steel materials (except the nutserts and disposable star lockwashers). Before inserting the nutserts, I put red Locktite around them so they would hold even better. After the nutserts were installed, I sprayed them with hammerite (rust prevention overkill). With the help of an impact driver, it took an hour to install the sidesteps from start to finish.

Here is the thread that helped me figure out how to make and use the homemade "tool" (there is a picture and it takes about one minute to make) to install the nutserts (the materials to do so are included in the above list):

Nutsert for Transfer Case Removal and Install - JeepForum.com

As far as alternative methods for fastening the steps, I can think of two:

1) Weld nuts to the frame and attach the steps to the welded nuts
2) Drill larger holes on the opposite side of each hole already there. The larger holes should be big enough to accommodate a socket allowing you to bolt them on.

The second one was going to be my plab B in case the nutserts didn't work. After one month, I am happy to report they are still holding strong!
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Old 06-17-2010, 01:21 AM   #11
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fastenal definately has them. however i just oredered my set of 14 nutserts from e-bay. i have not yet received them but the seller tells me he will provide instructions on how to install them. stay away from the stealership because they want $3.58 ea!!! fastenal has them for $.70 each but they did not have them at my not-so-local store so shipping was more than the price of the nutserts or rivnuts as some call them.

a coworker ordered the steps from an aftermarket company and was supplied with the nutserts. he said just to use the stock mounting bolt to install them. i was considering using anti-seize when i do mine so that the nutsert does not rotate if i should ever decide to remove them.

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These are also called RivNuts or Rivet nuts. If you are installing factory steps, threading will not work, and welding must place the nut inside the frame with the outside flush. The nuts can be put in without a tool, its just not as easy.
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Old 06-17-2010, 06:52 AM   #13
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I had an "06 TJ w/o steps. Purchased them from a dealer on line(mopar america) who were reasonable.
The steps came w/a kit that did not include nut serts but did have what I would describe a semi "U" shaped bolt, threaded on both ends that worked great, w/one side longer than the other. The installation for both sides took less than an hour, no drilling, tapping etc.
Check w/the dealer maybe the kit could be purchased separately.
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I couldn't find them either, so I just bought some longer bolts & drilled straight through the frame. You have to be careful on the driver's side because the brake/gas lines run behind it. Took less than an hour, if that, to complete.
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Old 06-17-2010, 07:39 AM   #15
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Go to eBay and order them. I did and it came with the instructions to install them. It's a job to install but take your time and it'll go well.
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here's the guy i bought them from. this is a seperate auction so bid away. i waited the 5 days and paid the $15 + shipping.

JEEP TJ WRANGLER SIDE STEPS-14/FRAME INSERTS: eBay Motors (item 200484042664 end time Jun-22-10 17:20:37 PDT)

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